• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:48
CET 23:48
KST 07:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block2GSL CK - New online series13BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Blizzard - classic cup GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 22 battle.net problems
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2075 users

[MSL] Grand Final - Page 21

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 189 Next
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 09 2011 19:09 GMT
#401
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 09 2011 19:12 GMT
#402
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
June 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#403
OMG the hype LOL!
Always smile~
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
June 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#404
I don't expect anything less than 5 exciting games with numbers of queen and irradiates and infested CCs and nukes, simply every unit and ability used. In the end Flash will nuke himself to celebrate his golden badge or Zero will consume his ultra and broodling his defilers to bm his oponent.
BW
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#405
On June 09 2011 17:14 Legatus Lanius wrote:
can you read korean, moopie?

Some, not enough to properly translate interviews, its something i've been working on for a long while.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
June 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#406
Thinking Zero has this 3-1, the maps are very good and he is more clutch than Hydra ever was.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 09 2011 20:09 GMT
#407
I want Flash to win but I expect Zero will put up a fight.
May the BeSt man win.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 09 2011 20:21 GMT
#408
On June 10 2011 05:04 mustaju wrote:
Thinking Zero has this 3-1, the maps are very good and he is more clutch than Hydra ever was.

I jacked this post for staff predictions~
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 09 2011 21:02 GMT
#409
On June 10 2011 05:21 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:04 mustaju wrote:
Thinking Zero has this 3-1, the maps are very good and he is more clutch than Hydra ever was.

I jacked this post for staff predictions~

lolwat
Writer
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
June 09 2011 21:51 GMT
#410
Nice job Finale ^^ that banner looks cool as hell. I can't wait for the finals man omg gogo Flash! TvZ ftw!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 09 2011 22:06 GMT
#411
On June 10 2011 04:12 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.


The only player Zero is even close to when they're playing their peak is Stork thanks to ZvP and, frankly, Stork's peak typically coincides with him teaching Jaedong a lesson in his ZvP not being invincible, lol.
Remember Violet.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 09 2011 22:08 GMT
#412
On June 10 2011 07:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 04:12 Holgerius wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.


The only player Zero is even close to when they're playing their peak is Stork thanks to ZvP and, frankly, Stork's peak typically coincides with him teaching Jaedong a lesson in his ZvP not being invincible, lol.


but no one can peak all the time...
Writer
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 09 2011 22:13 GMT
#413
On June 10 2011 07:08 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 07:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:12 Holgerius wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.


The only player Zero is even close to when they're playing their peak is Stork thanks to ZvP and, frankly, Stork's peak typically coincides with him teaching Jaedong a lesson in his ZvP not being invincible, lol.


but no one can peak all the time...


Holgerius brought up the peak things.

HE STARTED IT
Remember Violet.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 09 2011 22:14 GMT
#414
Speaking of which, when is the last time ZerO had a Bo5 against a Terran?
WriterXiao8~~
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
June 09 2011 22:19 GMT
#415
FLASH HWAITING! But I like Zero, too! Zero winning the MSL should be a huge boon to Stars' morale (I'm looking at you, free). However I really want Flash to win the golden badge because of his wrists .
Korean Air, please save Fox.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#416
On June 10 2011 07:14 Kipsate wrote:
Speaking of which, when is the last time ZerO had a Bo5 against a Terran?


Never.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 23:03:07
June 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#417
On June 10 2011 07:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 04:12 Holgerius wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.


The only player Zero is even close to when they're playing their peak is Stork thanks to ZvP and, frankly, Stork's peak typically coincides with him teaching Jaedong a lesson in his ZvP not being invincible, lol.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this issue I believe.

I mean, they have all obviously proven themselves better players than Zero in terms of better stats, moar accomplishments and such, much due to their consistency and longer periods of peaking. But if I knew Zero was gonna come out and bring his absolute best I would think long and hard before even saying JD himself is better.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 09 2011 22:55 GMT
#418
I ll pick Zero's peak to beat that of Effort's (im a hater, sue me).. Stork's n Jaedong's are bot better than Zero's best imo..

If Zero wins on Circuit Breaker, i expect him to win 3-1, if not its probably 3-2 either way.. But cheering for him anw
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 09 2011 23:02 GMT
#419
Somehow someway I have the feeling that it won't live up to the hype

liek, 3x bunker rush

or a 3-0 stomp

Like Fantasy vs Stork.

I must hope!.
WriterXiao8~~
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 23:08:17
June 09 2011 23:06 GMT
#420
On June 10 2011 07:08 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 07:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:12 Holgerius wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

Depends on how you define ''better''. I think Zero's peak level of play is definitely at least on par with anyone of those players you mentioned.


The only player Zero is even close to when they're playing their peak is Stork thanks to ZvP and, frankly, Stork's peak typically coincides with him teaching Jaedong a lesson in his ZvP not being invincible, lol.


but no one can peak all the time...

Finals + winstreak =/= peaks

Am I doing it wrong?
On June 10 2011 04:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 03:23 Release wrote:
i just realized that this is the first finals where the person playing flash has a legit chance to win


Flash has really only had 1 gimme finals vs Movie, every other one was JD, Effort, and Stork, all very good players and, frankly, better players than Zero.

zero is 3-4 againt flash, believe me if anyone other than JD has a legit chance of doing it, it's zero.

OH GOD WHY TIME SO SLOW
In the woods, there lurks..
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 221
ProTech100
ROOTCatZ 50
gerald23 50
CosmosSc2 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 3564
Artosis 536
NaDa 17
LancerX 14
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox483
AZ_Axe121
PPMD35
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu416
Other Games
gofns48468
tarik_tv17853
summit1g7315
Grubby3552
FrodaN962
B2W.Neo611
shahzam292
C9.Mang0137
ToD95
capcasts64
Maynarde16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1804
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 24
• musti20045 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki23
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1178
• Shiphtur142
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 12m
GSL
11h 12m
WardiTV Team League
13h 12m
The PondCast
1d 11h
WardiTV Team League
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.