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Finale
Profile Joined December 2010
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 04:32:51
June 10 2011 04:31 GMT
#441
On June 10 2011 12:33 Finale wrote:
[image loading]

Added a section to the top of the OP to attract attention to the MSL team's official write-up.
Not that anyone here is likely to have not seen it.

Also made changes to the main banner, map stats, and fan interview graphics
to better bring them in line with the thread's overall theme.

Coming soon to an OP near you:

A feature on queens by tedster and a ZerO hype piece by _Quasar_
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
June 10 2011 04:48 GMT
#442
The pregame setup is just insane. I love TeamLiquid and I love Broodwar!
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 10 2011 05:28 GMT
#443
dont know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but i think the map stats should read tvz rather than zvt, since the stats for terran come first and the stats for zerg are 2nd. just makes it a bit confusing when reading them because the zerg wins 40% of the games on la mancha/dante's and 72% on monte cristo, rather than 60/28
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
June 10 2011 07:01 GMT
#444
Do you guys think Flash will use mech?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2011 07:15 GMT
#445
On June 10 2011 16:01 shucklesors wrote:
Do you guys think Flash will use mech?

Maybe on monte cristo, but apart from there, especially on dante's peak, it would be difficult to pull off. Of course, this might turn out like the famous game on katrina.
☺
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
June 10 2011 07:49 GMT
#446
Enormous mass of turrets battle Round #2.

Flash is going to exceed the number of turrets built in a game record that he set last time against Zero in this match and cause the same ensuing rage at "HOW CAN YOU BEAT THAT?" I can feel it!
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#447
On June 10 2011 16:15 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 16:01 shucklesors wrote:
Do you guys think Flash will use mech?

Maybe on monte cristo, but apart from there, especially on dante's peak, it would be difficult to pull off. Of course, this might turn out like the famous game on katrina.


leta did mech pretty well on dantes against soulkey
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 10 2011 08:30 GMT
#448
this is the sickest OP for any finals i've seen in a long time (read: YEARS)

excellent job, OP!
POGGERS
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 08:50:19
June 10 2011 08:48 GMT
#449
On June 10 2011 16:49 Apex wrote:
Enormous mass of turrets battle Round #2.

Flash is going to exceed the number of turrets built in a game record that he set last time against Zero in this match and cause the same ensuing rage at "HOW CAN YOU BEAT THAT?" I can feel it!

at this time ZerO wasn't aware of the effectiveness of Queens... -___-

many things would become easier if he was. And actually, there were battles in which Queens would be useful - not everywhere there were turrets...

but again... queens what. These games are unlikely to see Queens or even mech builds imo. Flash will just go bio.

On June 10 2011 16:59 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 16:15 Release wrote:
On June 10 2011 16:01 shucklesors wrote:
Do you guys think Flash will use mech?

Maybe on monte cristo, but apart from there, especially on dante's peak, it would be difficult to pull off. Of course, this might turn out like the famous game on katrina.


leta did mech pretty well on dantes against soulkey


it was after a huge early game advantage. Well if Flash gets it - the game is already 98% lost for ZerO. We're talking about the situation where this isn't the case. Everyone hopes that ZerO won't insta-lose, we want real battle.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 10 2011 08:51 GMT
#450
what is so bad for mech on dantes?
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 09:47:37
June 10 2011 09:46 GMT
#451
I think the only chance for Zero is to pull off something ridiculous in 1st or 2nd set. If Flash gets to the 3rd game without any major damage like 0-2 result or total and utter loss in one of two initial games, then I can't see him losing. After loss to Effort, he learned his lesson and most probably won't allow any Zerg to come back from early defeats. Of course at this moment Zero is first non-Jaedong Zerg to give Flash run for his money, but to be honest, the way Flash stomped Hydra does not encourage me to bet for any Zerg against him.
What what the the fuck fuck? That blew my mind so much, I doubled every word in the phrase 'What the fuck' to get: 'What what the the fuck fuck my what the the fuck fucking what did the drop dropship medivac where in the what in the hell?' - Day[9]
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4442 Posts
June 10 2011 10:11 GMT
#452
So much hype! Huge effort guys! Can't wait for this!
Sucker for nostalgia
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 10 2011 10:40 GMT
#453
On June 10 2011 17:51 Legatus Lanius wrote:
what is so bad for mech on dantes?

ZerO is.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 10 2011 10:53 GMT
#454
Zero goes 3-1. you can stop all your speculations now.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
June 10 2011 10:57 GMT
#455
only 24 hours to go, excited already
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
June 10 2011 11:20 GMT
#456
Amazing OP, a great read.

But shouldn't the map stats be TvZ not ZvT?
WaterTower
Profile Joined May 2011
France138 Posts
June 10 2011 11:27 GMT
#457
Flash's loss to Reality shows how much time he has been practicing TvZ. I must say he must have played a thousand TvZ by now. *shudders*
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
June 10 2011 12:16 GMT
#458
On June 10 2011 20:27 WaterTower wrote:
Flash's loss to Reality shows how much time he has been practicing TvZ. I must say he must have played a thousand TvZ by now. *shudders*


Me, I thought his loss to Reality just showed he got cheesed, but maybe you're right too.

The OP is ridiculously long, it's fantastic.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Finale
Profile Joined December 2010
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 13:24:21
June 10 2011 13:19 GMT
#459
On June 10 2011 14:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
dont know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but i think the map stats should read tvz rather than zvt, since the stats for terran come first and the stats for zerg are 2nd. just makes it a bit confusing when reading them because the zerg wins 40% of the games on la mancha/dante's and 72% on monte cristo, rather than 60/28

On June 10 2011 20:20 Pangpootata wrote:
Amazing OP, a great read.

But shouldn't the map stats be TvZ not ZvT?

A mistake done in haste as I suffered from sleep deprivation I'm afraid. Thanks for pointing that out. It will be changed asap.

Edit: Fixed.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 14:06:10
June 10 2011 14:05 GMT
#460
Amazing read at the OP, this is going to be so epic.

Also, the opinions of Teamliquid are fairly well divided 50/50, amazing.
WriterXiao8~~
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