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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On May 27 2011 09:32 agarangu wrote: If Flash wins the MSL, I bet he will put Hydra on his group in the next group selection ceremony. He'll put Great and Bisu in Hydra's group :p. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On May 26 2011 23:57 _Quasar_ wrote: stop talking about those 14cc's.... you all know that it wasn't a 14cc that won Flash the games. It was his gameplay after those 14cc's. When it was 14cc vs 3hatch before pool, he also won, even though this is no bo advantage. yeah it was his gameplay after getting a huge advantage with 14cc... meaning 14cc (+ timing pushes, which were admittedly sick) did win it for him pretty much ... and also 14cc > 3h before p | ||
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Quarz
448 Posts
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Datum
United States371 Posts
I would have loved to see a Flash-Jaedong final. Regardless, I hope to see Flash in the finals! | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On May 27 2011 10:45 Kyuukyuu wrote: yeah it was his gameplay after getting a huge advantage with 14cc... meaning 14cc (+ timing pushes, which were admittedly sick) did win it for him pretty much ... and also 14cc > 3h before p To the guy who says 14CC isnt a bo advantage to 3 hatch b4 p, you are sadly mistaken. 3 hatch before pool sets zerg behind enough in tech, that 14CCing terran can get a few valkyries before mutas arrive. With this, flash spent nothing on early turrets. 14CC>3 h before p no question. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On May 27 2011 13:00 Release wrote: To the guy who says 14CC isnt a bo advantage to 3 hatch b4 p, you are sadly mistaken. 3 hatch before pool sets zerg behind enough in tech, that 14CCing terran can get a few valkyries before mutas arrive. With this, flash spent nothing on early turrets. 14CC>3 h before p no question. People have been parroting this "no pool 3hatch gets tech slower" bullshit for so long, and I have no idea where they get it from. If you spend 10 minutes and check out the lair timings for 12hatch 14hatch 13pool 12gas and compare it to 12hatch 11pool 13hatch 12gas then you'll notice that they are different by like 1-3 seconds. They are practically identical in lair timing, and standard 3hatch actually gets the lair later if you use the most safe variation (12hatch 11pool 13hatch 15gas). The reason that 14cc > no pool 3hatch isn't because the Zerg's lair timing is later, it's because no pool 3hatch doesn't get the Zerg additional gas income heading into the midgame. The Zerg gets more mineral, which allows them to take their third faster, but the extra minerals doesn't mean a lot for the Zerg heading into midgame in terms of units. The Zerg is able to put down a macro hatch earlier, but this, like the earlier third, doesn't give the Zerg any advantage heading into the midgame. The Terran, on the other hand, is able to make full use of his extra minerals into putting down his barracks faster and pump out more marines since all of this only requires minerals. Due to this, the Terran gets his unit production rolling quicker heading into the midgame. The reason why 14cc > no pool 3hatch is because the Terran is able to put down his barracks faster and churn out marines quicker while the Zerg does not gain any advantage in terms of tech timing or unit production heading into the midgame. For the effects of no pool 3hatch to show fully, the game has to go on a bit further into the late midgame when the gas income from the earlier third kicks in and the macro hatchery provides larva. This reminds me of how someone thought Jaedong got his mutas out quicker in the recent game vs Flash where Flash went fast vessels.... because Jaedong didn't make any sunks. Completely nonsensical. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On May 24 2011 12:44 Hinanawi wrote: Flash must advance, for the sake of not having a ZvZ final. This is so true. That starleague last year with the all Zerg Ro4 was ridiculous...in a bad way... -_- | ||
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4vvhiplash7
South Africa392 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
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Arkqn
France589 Posts
I mean, it's Flash. When was the last time he lost a BoX? Centuries ago. | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:46 Deekin[ wrote: Hydra win for 3 times MSL in a row since he will win the next one aswell! Effort will be back by the next MSL to retake his place as the top CJ Zerg and Hydra will fade away. | ||
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CoMMoDuS
Germany507 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:56 Arkqn wrote: How can people seriously doubt of Hydra winning... I mean, it's Flash. When was the last time he lost a BoX? Centuries ago. I think you wanted to say Flash instead of Hydra | ||
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:56 Musou wrote: Effort will be back by the next MSL to retake his place as the top CJ Zerg and Hydra will fade away. Nah, he will be rusty, though I think he has more potential than Hydra. | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On May 27 2011 21:18 Deekin[ wrote: Nah, he will be rusty, though I think he has more potential than Hydra. He's already practicing in the practice house and according to a relatively recent interview with Movie a few weeks ago, he is already at his pre-retirement level. | ||
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:56 Arkqn wrote: How can people seriously doubt of Hydra winning... I mean, it's Flash. When was the last time he lost a BoX? Centuries ago. erm... i thought the finals loss to Effort was exactly a year ago. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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PBC
167 Posts
but this is FLASH we're talking about here.. th | ||
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