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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 10:37:36
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1561
I appreciate people streaming but I have never been more tilted by streams than that. GTR's lagged constantly and buffered over and over for me. Meanwhile nitdkim had no sound in set3 and was constantly opening menus which blocked the main attacks of the game and were super distracting.

Feels like I didn't even get to watch the series, got like 1.2 games in terms of what I actually saw without being stressed over stream issues which constantly took me out of the game. What a depressing situation after getting up early to watch this. Makes me wish I'd just slept in and avoided spoilers until the VODs came out. Now I got the world of both worlds cos I can't watch them not knowing what happened and yet I didn't get the thrill of seeing the big plays live.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1562
yep!, never liked Hydra, so here is the proof.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1563
[image loading] vs [image loading]
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1564
It's amazing how well OGN timed the start of today's MyStarleague finals...
Brood War is alive and well.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1565
I'm so happy!
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1566
mmm rather a disappointing ro4, thanks to GTR for the stream!
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
June 02 2011 10:35 GMT
#1567
Justice... thats what that was... Flash showed Hydra what it takes to be the REAL champion... Well played Flash!!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1568
On June 02 2011 19:34 Assymptotic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 19:32 setzer wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:31 Assymptotic wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:25 HopLight wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:22 Assymptotic wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:19 HopLight wrote:
Hydra really is a lot like Effort, excellent early game, falls apart against Flash's late game.

Watch Effort vs. Flash on Judgment Day.


He had a huge lead going into the late game that match. It's also basically the only late game match he won vs Flash I think.


I'm pretty sure he won another late game match after that OSL....on Fighting Spirit, THE late game macro map.


That was when Effort tricked Flash into thinking he went 2base lurker ... and the Judgment Day match was when Flash built Valkyries against a non-existent mutalisk threat


So we're discrediting mind games as a viable indication of a worthy late game match?


More like discrediting games where one player goes into the late game with an almost insurmountable disadvantage.
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1569
On June 02 2011 19:34 WWJDD wrote:
Flash played sloppy in the first two game and still won. Game three was flawless.

how did flash play sloppy in set 1? he owned hydra basically in his first push lol flash played really well imo
and game 2 was on a zerg map
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1570
Now where's the nonbelievers when we need them?
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 10:36:46
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1571
Pretty onesided except the 2nd game.
But the finals gonna be sick, favorite terran vs favorite zerg!
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1572
On June 02 2011 19:34 Kazius wrote:
OK, Flash taking some revenge for the group of death. He outclassed Hydra so badly - and to think I was actually thinking Hydra had a chance. Flash once again proves that FvZ is the most imba matchup in BW.


Just saying, but I think FvT / FvP / BvZ are probably more imba.

Thanks streamers! I'm skipping MySL to study for term tests
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1573
On June 02 2011 19:31 Assymptotic wrote:

"He had a huge lead going into the late game that match"
Well yes, that's a desirable way to go into late game.


Of course it is, but that lead came from his outstanding early game. What I was saying was that he has good early game but that he has much inferior late game.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1574
Thanks for the thread and streams guys.

Sadly a bit too one-sided for my liking, but you have to respect Flash's skill.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#1575
On June 02 2011 19:35 Thorin wrote:
I appreciate people streaming but I have never been more tilted by streams than that. GTR's lagged constantly and buffered over and over for me. Meanwhile nitdkim had no sound in set3 and was constantly opening menus which blocked the main attacks of the game and were super distracting.

Feels like I didn't even get to watch the series, got like 1.2 games in terms of what I actually saw without being stressed over stream issues which constantly took me out of the game. What a depressing situation after getting up early to watch this.

Well this happens sometimes.

I managed it by watching both GTR's stream and the Chinese PLU stream. So when one lagged I would just switch over to another, I missed nothing!
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
June 02 2011 10:37 GMT
#1576
Hmm, it's alright Hydra, we all know that your ZvT is your weakest matchup anyway. At least you got a seed for the next MSL, so you can use this loss as a learning experience and move on! Looks like you're not ready to be the next Effort yet... But oh well, taking down 2 out 4 TBLS is still great and beyond most people's expectations.

Thanks to all the streamers as usual and to Amnesia for making the thread!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
June 02 2011 10:37 GMT
#1577
I always freaken land when the series just finish
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
June 02 2011 10:37 GMT
#1578
On June 02 2011 19:35 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 19:29 Mortician wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:26 Devolved wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:23 ffreakk wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:21 Iplaythings wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:18 epoc wrote:
Does Zero stand a chance at winning Flash?

Zero has the best statistical record vs flash of active players iirc, like 3-4 in flashes favor.



I dont think so. Stork used to have leading head-to-head vs all of TBLS till a short while ago.. Dont remember clearly the recent matches, but it shouldnt be worse than 3-4 yet

What about Best? I remember they would always match Best up against Flash in proleague and it seemed that he usually won.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=424&part=games&league=standard&vs=P#tblt-5935-1-default-0-best

Not quite

So someone has a record better than 5-5 vs. Flash? And if you take the games from 2010 and beyond Best is 4-2 vs. Flash.

you mean 2-4?

Stork has the best record against Flash with 10-8 I think, although his games recently aren't too good.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
June 02 2011 10:37 GMT
#1579
On June 02 2011 19:36 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 19:34 Assymptotic wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:32 setzer wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:31 Assymptotic wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:25 HopLight wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:22 Assymptotic wrote:
On June 02 2011 19:19 HopLight wrote:
Hydra really is a lot like Effort, excellent early game, falls apart against Flash's late game.

Watch Effort vs. Flash on Judgment Day.


He had a huge lead going into the late game that match. It's also basically the only late game match he won vs Flash I think.


I'm pretty sure he won another late game match after that OSL....on Fighting Spirit, THE late game macro map.


That was when Effort tricked Flash into thinking he went 2base lurker ... and the Judgment Day match was when Flash built Valkyries against a non-existent mutalisk threat


So we're discrediting mind games as a viable indication of a worthy late game match?


More like discrediting games where one player goes into the late game with an almost insurmountable disadvantage.

14CC vs. 12hatch in all those JD vs. Flash games doesn't count now either then?
Fly Jaedong, fly!
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
June 02 2011 10:37 GMT
#1580
On June 02 2011 19:37 Spica wrote:
Hmm, it's alright Hydra, we all know that your ZvT is your weakest matchup anyway. At least you got a seed for the next MSL, so you can use this loss as a learning experience and move on! Looks like you're not ready to be the next Effort yet... But oh well, taking down 2 out 4 TBLS is still great and beyond most people's expectations.

Thanks to all the streamers as usual and to Amnesia for making the thread!


I'm hoping Flash sets Hydra up with a nice and juicy group next MSL.
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