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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:08:40
May 17 2011 11:07 GMT
#761
On May 17 2011 20:05 Musou wrote:
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On May 17 2011 20:04 Spica wrote:
Oh, and apparently KT is knocked down to 3rd place... Well deserved getting in 2nd place, CJ!

KT was already second before the match today. Their loss to Woongjin knocked them down.

Yeah they were already second before today's match. I knew that already? o_O

Ah you edited your message, didn't check the rankings. Well, it's nice to see CJ in 2nd place anyway. ;P
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
May 17 2011 11:08 GMT
#762
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.
He couldn't beat ZerO while Jaehoon did it quite easily. Then Grape just defeated Horang2 in a bo3, but Bisu can't
Nice snipes CJ. Is the coach the rightful successor of Cho ?


Last 10 games

9 wins - 1 loses...

GET OUT CHILL!
bisu fanboy
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
May 17 2011 11:08 GMT
#763
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
May 17 2011 11:08 GMT
#764
On May 17 2011 20:07 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:05 Musou wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:04 Spica wrote:
Oh, and apparently KT is knocked down to 3rd place... Well deserved getting in 2nd place, CJ!

KT was already second before the match today. Their loss to Woongjin knocked them down.

Yeah they were already second before today's match. I knew that already? o_O

Err yeah I meant third. Brain fart. They showed KT at third before today's match in the match preview because CJ was tied for w-l but had a better w-l difference.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 17 2011 11:09 GMT
#765
On May 17 2011 19:56 Winechu wrote:
My mouth was agape during the latter half of the game. Horang2's PvP is just a class above. Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply.

It wouldnt have been this close if he really was a class above :-p
He almost lost the game on decision making/positioning when he dropped Bisu's main with 2 shuttles, and lost his nat in the counterattack. Then Bisu got overconfident, lost one maxed engagement, but then he held Horang2 in small-scale engagements constantly, which, coupled with his harass (nonexistent on Horang2's part) evened the game again.

On May 17 2011 19:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
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On May 17 2011 19:55 Sillylaughs wrote:
'10-11horang2 is the new '08-09Best

Nop. BeSt most incredible matchup was, and still is, TvP. At the time of BeSt, he was not that incredible in PvP. His vT was just mind blowing though.

Best's PvP until 23-10-2008, where he lost in the quarterfinals of Incruit OSL against Stork:
TLPD
31 wins - 11 losses (73.81%)
And a 18 game winstreak including the first game against Stork in said set.

Horang2 now:
33 wins - 15 losses (68.75%)
BW fighting!
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
May 17 2011 11:10 GMT
#766
lol SKT isn't perfect. Relax, still in first place.

It was just a bad day and besides, Bisu finally showed his PvP brilliance again. Now if he can win one more vZ or vT, maybe he can eclipse his vZ ELO and also his vT ELO.

I'm lost for words on Fantasy though. No words can describe how big of a disappointment his PL performance are.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
May 17 2011 11:12 GMT
#767
Well, at least we can use this as a meme:

[image loading]

Bisu: *Bites lower lip*

"DAT MACRO-"
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 17 2011 11:13 GMT
#768
[image loading]

Bunkie's sad
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:14:56
May 17 2011 11:13 GMT
#769
On May 17 2011 20:12 Spica wrote:
Well, at least we can use this as a meme:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Bisu: *Bites lower lip*

"DAT MACRO-"



thats my 2nd fav lip bite pic after the gina carano 1.
bisu fanboy
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:14:46
May 17 2011 11:14 GMT
#770
On May 17 2011 20:13 jpak wrote:
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[image loading]


Bunkie's sad


i was going to make a very inappropriate comment on the that.....but i'll leave it up to, 1 of you younger funnier and braver people.
bisu fanboy
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 17 2011 11:15 GMT
#771
On May 17 2011 20:13 jpak wrote:
[image loading]

Bunkie's sad

Obviously doesn't enjoy getting raped.
God Bless
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
May 17 2011 11:16 GMT
#772
On May 17 2011 20:06 Fenrax wrote:
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On May 17 2011 20:05 rainei wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:02 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 19:56 Winechu wrote:
My mouth was agape during the latter half of the game. Horang2's PvP is just a class above. Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply.

Sorry but I must say this: you must be blind.


That's not very nice. Please explain how you disagree. I agree completely with his analysis. Horang2 played amazingly.


This was like the closest game ever and the analysis sounds like a one-sided domination. Not that Horangd idnt play awesome, but Bisu did as well.



The only reason this wasn't a one-sided domination, was due to the half base trade. Bisu gained a huge advantage on 2 bases versus 1, but after that Horang2 played amazingly. His micro was absolutely fantastic as he overcame disadvantage after disadvantage. For example, the first major engagement, Horang2 lost 2 reavers in a shuttle, making it 4 reavers vs 2, and he still comes out on top. He engages with 10-20 less supply and still wins engagements in the latter part of the game. He engages with no storms and still wins engagements.

My point is, Horang2 made a few errors from which Bisu should have been able to win the game from. His 2 bases vs 1 should have been gg, but somehow, Horang2 microed his way out of basically every single disadvantageous PvP position possible basically.

I guess Winechu's statement should read, "Horang2's PvP is just a class above After he lost his Nat Nexus . Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
May 17 2011 11:19 GMT
#773
On May 17 2011 20:16 rainei wrote:
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On May 17 2011 20:06 Fenrax wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:05 rainei wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:02 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 19:56 Winechu wrote:
My mouth was agape during the latter half of the game. Horang2's PvP is just a class above. Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply.

Sorry but I must say this: you must be blind.


That's not very nice. Please explain how you disagree. I agree completely with his analysis. Horang2 played amazingly.


This was like the closest game ever and the analysis sounds like a one-sided domination. Not that Horangd idnt play awesome, but Bisu did as well.



The only reason this wasn't a one-sided domination, was due to the half base trade. Bisu gained a huge advantage on 2 bases versus 1, but after that Horang2 played amazingly. His micro was absolutely fantastic as he overcame disadvantage after disadvantage. For example, the first major engagement, Horang2 lost 2 reavers in a shuttle, making it 4 reavers vs 2, and he still comes out on top. He engages with 10-20 less supply and still wins engagements in the latter part of the game. He engages with no storms and still wins engagements.

My point is, Horang2 made a few errors from which Bisu should have been able to win the game from. His 2 bases vs 1 should have been gg, but somehow, Horang2 microed his way out of basically every single disadvantageous PvP position possible basically.

I guess Winechu's statement should read, "Horang2's PvP is just a class above After he lost his Nat Nexus . Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply


I think that the killing of the nexus was a little misleading. bisu had to sacrifice a large part of his army so that when both stabilized, horang2 had a bigger army. also he already had a lot of the probes still so it is not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:20:52
May 17 2011 11:19 GMT
#774
On May 17 2011 20:09 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 19:56 Winechu wrote:
My mouth was agape during the latter half of the game. Horang2's PvP is just a class above. Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply.

It wouldnt have been this close if he really was a class above :-p
He almost lost the game on decision making/positioning when he dropped Bisu's main with 2 shuttles, and lost his nat in the counterattack. Then Bisu got overconfident, lost one maxed engagement, but then he held Horang2 in small-scale engagements constantly, which, coupled with his harass (nonexistent on Horang2's part) evened the game again.


I agree, but I thought my post implied I was referring to the latter half of the game. I think Bisu was in an advantageous position going into the engagement, he was maxed and sniped the shuttle with 2 reavers prior, but Horang2 simply micro-ed better. I'm not saying that Bisu played terrible, but I'm saying Horang2 put himself in a losing position but them redeemed himself by playing perfectly after that. It reminds me of... Flash? Especially the clutch defence. Maybe there's a bit of hyperbole in my post, but you'll have to excuse me because it was a really epic game.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:21:47
May 17 2011 11:21 GMT
#775
The fact that the last game isn't universally recommended proves the patheticness of certain SKT fanboys.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
May 17 2011 11:23 GMT
#776
On May 17 2011 20:13 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:12 Spica wrote:
Well, at least we can use this as a meme:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Bisu: *Bites lower lip*

"DAT MACRO-"



thats my 2nd fav lip bite pic after the gina carano 1.


The Paralyze :O face stands out more, IMO. Hehehehe.

And what Gina Carano pic? Must see!
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:25:11
May 17 2011 11:24 GMT
#777
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo
ॐ
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2011 11:24 GMT
#778
On May 17 2011 20:21 mustaju wrote:
The fact that the last game isn't universally recommended proves the patheticness of certain SKT fanboys.


I find 96% to be quite universal.
WriterXiao8~~
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:25:53
May 17 2011 11:25 GMT
#779
On May 17 2011 20:21 mustaju wrote:
The fact that the last game isn't universally recommended proves the patheticness of certain SKT Bisu fanboys.

Fixed for you. You're welcome.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:27:25
May 17 2011 11:26 GMT
#780
bad day
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