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whiterabb1t
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium681 Posts
May 17 2011 11:27 GMT
#781

Guys please lets stop it already.
Lets get out of this god awful thread and let this drown in the abyss of TL archives...
PLEASE
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
May 17 2011 11:28 GMT
#782
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

I do think I know a thing or two about fanboyism leading to pain, and Bisu losing to ZerO seems rather inconsequential to me, especially seeing how ZerO's potential does skyrocket only to fall down again. The game of Bisu and ZerO was great from both sides. (And yes, I'm still a huge Bisu anti-fan).
If you look at the games of Kal or Calm, on the other hand...

But I can never be claim to be as hurt as Savior fans, so I'll rather shut up now.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2011 11:29 GMT
#783
On May 17 2011 20:27 whiterabb1t wrote:

Guys please lets stop it already.
Lets get out of this god awful thread and let this drown in the abyss of TL archives...
PLEASE


Oke sec

(-_-)

Oke now I am done.
WriterXiao8~~
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:31:57
May 17 2011 11:31 GMT
#784
Bwahahahahahaha what the hell. 4-0 was the last thing I expected.

LMFAO
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
May 17 2011 11:34 GMT
#785
On May 17 2011 20:19 vishrut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:16 rainei wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:06 Fenrax wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:05 rainei wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:02 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 19:56 Winechu wrote:
My mouth was agape during the latter half of the game. Horang2's PvP is just a class above. Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply.

Sorry but I must say this: you must be blind.


That's not very nice. Please explain how you disagree. I agree completely with his analysis. Horang2 played amazingly.


This was like the closest game ever and the analysis sounds like a one-sided domination. Not that Horangd idnt play awesome, but Bisu did as well.



The only reason this wasn't a one-sided domination, was due to the half base trade. Bisu gained a huge advantage on 2 bases versus 1, but after that Horang2 played amazingly. His micro was absolutely fantastic as he overcame disadvantage after disadvantage. For example, the first major engagement, Horang2 lost 2 reavers in a shuttle, making it 4 reavers vs 2, and he still comes out on top. He engages with 10-20 less supply and still wins engagements in the latter part of the game. He engages with no storms and still wins engagements.

My point is, Horang2 made a few errors from which Bisu should have been able to win the game from. His 2 bases vs 1 should have been gg, but somehow, Horang2 microed his way out of basically every single disadvantageous PvP position possible basically.

I guess Winechu's statement should read, "Horang2's PvP is just a class above After he lost his Nat Nexus . Macro, Micro, sense, positioning. Incredible how he just wins EVERY engagement, even with lower supply


I think that the killing of the nexus was a little misleading. bisu had to sacrifice a large part of his army so that when both stabilized, horang2 had a bigger army. also he already had a lot of the probes still so it is not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be


I'll need to check the vod for this, but it seemed like at the end of that sequence were 2 goons on either side hitting each other. ie. both armies were decimated. I think that missing nexus was huge in the mentality of both players.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 17 2011 11:35 GMT
#786
On May 17 2011 20:28 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

I do think I know a thing or two about fanboyism leading to pain, and Bisu losing to ZerO seems rather inconsequential to me, especially seeing how ZerO's potential does skyrocket only to fall down again. The game of Bisu and ZerO was great from both sides. (And yes, I'm still a huge Bisu anti-fan).
If you look at the games of Kal or Calm, on the other hand...


Agree it was a great game from both sides, which is why it was painful to watch for me . Bisu didn't seem to do many mistakes, he played well, did big damage with his storm drops, and still seemed that he couldn't do anything.


But I can never be claim to be as hurt as Savior fans, so I'll rather shut up now.


We sure agree on that. But if we follow your logic, no one will be ever as hurt as Savior fans, so we should all shut up forever.
ॐ
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 17 2011 11:38 GMT
#787
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo

He just did something Flash couldn't. So yeah, I'm satisfied.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 17 2011 11:40 GMT
#788
LOL SNIPED!!! Fantasy vs skyhigh, Leta vs ssak, movie vs soo, bisu vs horang2. Whoa.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 17 2011 11:43 GMT
#789
Wow Horang2's pvp is insane
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:44:29
May 17 2011 11:43 GMT
#790
On May 17 2011 20:35 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:28 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

I do think I know a thing or two about fanboyism leading to pain, and Bisu losing to ZerO seems rather inconsequential to me, especially seeing how ZerO's potential does skyrocket only to fall down again. The game of Bisu and ZerO was great from both sides. (And yes, I'm still a huge Bisu anti-fan).
If you look at the games of Kal or Calm, on the other hand...


Agree it was a great game from both sides, which is why it was painful to watch for me . Bisu didn't seem to do many mistakes, he played well, did big damage with his storm drops, and still seemed that he couldn't do anything.

It was his choice of strategy that did him in. He's become predictable, hella strong, but predictable. Seeing every Zerg lose to him basically no matter what kind of strategy they employ made me an anti-fan in the first place. Pushing out later or going for Reavers instead of DT-s for a change might have shaken Zero up a bit more.

Show nested quote +

But I can never be claim to be as hurt as Savior fans, so I'll rather shut up now.


We sure agree on that. But if we follow your logic, no one will be ever as hurt as Savior fans, so we should all shut up forever.

My logic is that I was talking about my pain having been bigger than yours, and yet I know nothing about pain till I'm betrayed as badly as SaviOr fans were. I can talk about pain, but I shouldn't really be talking about how my pain "hurts" more.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 17 2011 11:44 GMT
#791
On May 17 2011 20:38 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo

He just did something Flash couldn't. So yeah, I'm satisfied.


If you're talking about beating JD, well JD only defeated Bisu once for the last 24 months, so it was nothing but a formality.

Ok I'll stop for tonight, I started this half-joking, I don't wanna sound like an SKT version of SuperArc. The former must be jizzing right now btw.
ॐ
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 17 2011 11:55 GMT
#792
On May 17 2011 20:44 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:38 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo

He just did something Flash couldn't. So yeah, I'm satisfied.


If you're talking about beating JD, well JD only defeated Bisu once for the last 24 months, so it was nothing but a formality.

Ok I'll stop for tonight, I started this half-joking, I don't wanna sound like an SKT version of SuperArc. The former must be jizzing right now btw.

I'm afraid you're a little too late for that...
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 17 2011 11:55 GMT
#793
This was almost enough to make me a CJ fan :D (Leta fan regardless, of course.)
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 17 2011 12:07 GMT
#794
On May 17 2011 20:40 Djagulingu wrote:
LOL SNIPED!!! Fantasy vs skyhigh, Leta vs ssak, movie vs soo, bisu vs horang2. Whoa.

I don't get why people are saying CJ sniped in ALL four match ups. Last time ssak was sent to snipe Leta and so what if soo and ssak are no names, blame the bo7 set up.

Also not sure why people are thinking they can bury this thread when people who didn't watch the match are waking up to check the LR thread.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 17 2011 12:32 GMT
#795
Unfortunate, but CJ does often get the better of SKT in games that aren't playoffs games.
And CJ is ranked #2 now, wow. If they had Effort, they'd probably be doing even better. SKT's rookies(and Fantasy, who is sometimes a rookie) need to really step it up.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
May 17 2011 12:33 GMT
#796
Tired and sleepy, I slowly opened this thread and clicked the "results" tab.

And then I just... kinda laughed. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but this was literally the last thing I could have expected. Even Oov coming out to play against Neo_G.Bonjwa with a new anti-queen strategy would have been less unexpected... well k not really. But it kinda just blew my mind in my tired state... gotta check that Horang2 game out later.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Alex)
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Scotland263 Posts
May 17 2011 12:37 GMT
#797
lol? SK just got rolled

there goes my auto vote SK on liquibet ;p
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 12:54:10
May 17 2011 12:42 GMT
#798
On May 17 2011 20:15 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:13 jpak wrote:
[image loading]

Bunkie's sad

Obviously doesn't enjoy getting raped.


hahahaha
+ Show Spoiler +
lol pwnt
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
May 17 2011 12:46 GMT
#799
On May 17 2011 20:44 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:38 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo

He just did something Flash couldn't. So yeah, I'm satisfied.


If you're talking about beating JD, well JD only defeated Bisu once for the last 24 months, so it was nothing but a formality.

Ok I'll stop for tonight, I started this half-joking, I don't wanna sound like an SKT version of SuperArc. The former must be jizzing right now btw.

what happened to him.

is he permabanned?
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 12:53:56
May 17 2011 12:50 GMT
#800
On May 17 2011 21:46 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:44 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:38 chisuri wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:24 endy wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:08 mustaju wrote:
On May 17 2011 20:03 endy wrote:
Damn, it's not a good time to beat a Bisu fan.

I don't even know what to say about such a claim. My mind is blown. This is almost like saying that it'd be a bad time to be a Flash fan in 2010, not quite, but almost.


I haven't said Bisu's slumping again or wasn't performing (especially if you compare him to Kal lol ;d). But I promise you that as a Bisu fan, it was very painful to see him losing to ZerO only to see Jaehoon beating ZerO a few days later.

I know that A > B > C in BW doesn't mean A > C, but why couldn't Bisu do something Jaehoon and Grape did ? It's really frustrating

edit : typo

He just did something Flash couldn't. So yeah, I'm satisfied.


If you're talking about beating JD, well JD only defeated Bisu once for the last 24 months, so it was nothing but a formality.

Ok I'll stop for tonight, I started this half-joking, I don't wanna sound like an SKT version of SuperArc. The former must be jizzing right now btw.

what happened to him.

is he permabanned?

He was banned a while ago
On May 17 2011 20:27 whiterabb1t wrote:

Guys please lets stop it already.
Lets get out of this god awful thread and let this drown in the abyss of TL archives...
PLEASE

those who missed it will be checking results and making comments, this thread won't die so easily. SKT getting floored will probably also get a mention in the SPL write up.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
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