• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:01
CET 14:01
KST 22:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1830
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1025 users

[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz - Page 30

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 Next All
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 14 2011 13:30 GMT
#581
fell asleep rofl
▲ ▲ ▲
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
May 14 2011 14:36 GMT
#582
On May 14 2011 20:25 Kipsate wrote:
Ow well, there is always MSL to look forward too FOR JAEDONG, CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT BISU.

Sorry, I have no other retort-.-. OZ so bad today.

Might aswell change my icon to ACE and just be Jaedong fan, sigh.

Its a tough year to be an OZ fan.


Try being a fan of STX
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
May 14 2011 14:47 GMT
#583
all-kill? LOL
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
Quarz
Profile Joined November 2010
448 Posts
May 14 2011 15:21 GMT
#584
On May 14 2011 20:54 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:25 Kipsate wrote:
Ow well, there is always MSL to look forward too FOR JAEDONG, CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT BISU.

Sorry, I have no other retort-.-. OZ so bad today.

Might aswell change my icon to ACE and just be Jaedong fan, sigh.

Its a tough year to be an OZ fan.


Cheer up, you guys pwned KT 4-0,that was a very satisfying result, even as a SKT fan I was satisfied with that lol.


That was nice, but to loose two times in row 4-0 is too bad.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
May 14 2011 16:09 GMT
#585
Damn 4:0's sucks to get 4 games instead 6-7.

infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 16:28:22
May 14 2011 16:23 GMT
#586
Did Jaedong go muta again? I bet he did, why does he always do it. It's awful and doesn't even look comfortable against bad P players. He's just totally out of this matchup it seems, it hurts him that he rarely plays against P in proleague while Bisu can play PvZ as much as he wants with good backup in the team. Not to mention superior practice partners.

Just think how little Jaedong has had to actually play vP in the past year or so. Even in bo5's against Stork and Snow it was scrappy play (although it still was a good series vs Snow), ZerO or Calm in his ZvP prime were looking much more comfortable than this. It's all very well practicing vT cause i'm guessing he really wants to be able to beat Flash in the MSL, but he's sacrificed his other matchups it seriously looks like.

Also for the rest of the team, Lomo is useless now. Play sHy and Sky! And it's disappointing proleague is already resorting to so many mirrors all the time.
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 16:38:23
May 14 2011 16:37 GMT
#587
I don't think JD "lost" his sense for ZvP, most of his last losses against P are coming from Bisu and as a Zerg player it is allowed to lose against Bisu, that means nothing. Most of his last ZvP he did won, so I don't think he has to change some things in general in his ZvP, he just has to prepare something special against Bisu, but that holds for every Zerg, instead of banking on his natural pure skill. (just my opinion)
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
May 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#588
So JD > Flash > Bisu > JD

kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
May 14 2011 16:55 GMT
#589
On May 15 2011 01:45 wassbix wrote:
So JD > Flash > Bisu > JD



The weird stuff is that it means Z>T>P>Z.
Khassar de Templari
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 14 2011 17:03 GMT
#590
On May 15 2011 01:55 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 01:45 wassbix wrote:
So JD > Flash > Bisu > JD



The weird stuff is that it means Z>T>P>Z.

universe is about to explode
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
May 14 2011 17:27 GMT
#591
meh, it's hard to get worse mu's than we got tonight. s2 gets killer instead of lomo or hiya, Jaedong gets the only person with a reasonable chance of beating him, fantasy doesn't get a zerg and princess doesn't get a p. People give far to much credit to skt1 for being a "deep" team and to little to the coaching staff
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
May 14 2011 17:38 GMT
#592
On May 14 2011 17:16 vishrut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 16:39 chisuri wrote:
JD's Elo is now below 2300 while Bisu is about to peak his vT and vZ (his win in this match over JD earns him 8 points in Elo and he is 2 point short to peak).

when i go to look up someone in tlpd it always looks in some random database. is there some option so i can change it back to normal?
Also bisu is coming up on flash. when did flash fall so far below 2400?


2400 is impossible to keep. You win, get probably one point max, two points maybe to #2 or #3, and when you lose you probably lose like 15 points or some crazy number.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 14 2011 17:47 GMT
#593
On May 14 2011 23:36 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 20:25 Kipsate wrote:
Ow well, there is always MSL to look forward too FOR JAEDONG, CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT BISU.

Sorry, I have no other retort-.-. OZ so bad today.

Might aswell change my icon to ACE and just be Jaedong fan, sigh.

Its a tough year to be an OZ fan.


Try being a fan of STX


Touché sir.
WriterXiao8~~
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 18:19:10
May 14 2011 17:56 GMT
#594
On May 15 2011 02:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
s2 gets killer instead of lomo



Ok, jokes aside...

Oh, and people give too hight credit in calling SKT deep, when its infact Oz that bad :X
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
uziasz
Profile Joined August 2009
Poland70 Posts
May 14 2011 18:02 GMT
#595
Tbh its nothing special that jd lost to bisu. Jd didnt play lot of zvp lately he wasnt preparing that much for this mu, bisu plays a lot of pvz and its obviously strongest mu atm. Jd's worst mu is zvp atm he play lot of zvt games and its where he shine. Like someone earlier said jd dont play good vs p in proleague its like bisu failing at individual leagues.
Jaedong fan since 2007 also Navi fan
intoyourrainbOW
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States168 Posts
May 14 2011 18:42 GMT
#596
On May 14 2011 13:35 Kznn wrote:
dong is getting raped... o.o


the dong got donged.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
May 14 2011 18:48 GMT
#597
I think if JD was actually in a situation where he regularly played P in PL it wouldn't be so bad, but it's rare. The other teams always send out T/Z against him.
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 14 2011 18:58 GMT
#598
On May 15 2011 02:38 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 17:16 vishrut wrote:
On May 14 2011 16:39 chisuri wrote:
JD's Elo is now below 2300 while Bisu is about to peak his vT and vZ (his win in this match over JD earns him 8 points in Elo and he is 2 point short to peak).

when i go to look up someone in tlpd it always looks in some random database. is there some option so i can change it back to normal?
Also bisu is coming up on flash. when did flash fall so far below 2400?


2400 is impossible to keep. You win, get probably one point max, two points maybe to #2 or #3, and when you lose you probably lose like 15 points or some crazy number.

20 and 30 is not unusual.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#599
wtf jaedong losing to bisu while doing that expo muta scourge ling strat again. zero played that style perfectly against bisu while jd doesnt seem to be able to do it properly.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
May 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#600
On May 15 2011 02:56 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 02:27 n.DieJokes wrote:
s2 gets killer instead of lomo



Ok, jokes aside...

Oh, and people give too hight credit in calling SKT deep, when its infact Oz that bad :X

Idk man, s2 is pretty damn awful at ZvT. Really really bad, underdog vs lomo bad
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
Season 13 World Championship
Nicoract vs GgMaChineLIVE!
ReBellioN vs MaNa
Lemon vs TriGGeR
Gerald vs Cure
Creator vs SHIN
WardiTV606
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko268
SC2Nice 55
LamboSC2 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 7811
Sea 2624
EffOrt 1027
Shuttle 571
Soma 410
Mini 355
firebathero 341
ZerO 260
ggaemo 256
BeSt 252
[ Show more ]
Last 235
Snow 230
Hyuk 190
Hyun 166
Light 158
Mong 156
Rush 136
Larva 127
Mind 119
hero 117
Sharp 84
Pusan 74
Barracks 68
Sea.KH 53
Nal_rA 51
Killer 45
Sexy 36
sorry 26
Terrorterran 25
Yoon 24
GoRush 17
scan(afreeca) 16
HiyA 16
zelot 15
910 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
SilentControl 12
ivOry 9
Dota 2
XcaliburYe130
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1473
fl0m1281
shoxiejesuss965
x6flipin480
edward87
Other Games
singsing2829
B2W.Neo1095
crisheroes304
Sick216
Mew2King94
XaKoH 69
Livibee62
ZerO(Twitch)3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2501
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 12
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV294
League of Legends
• Jankos2530
• TFBlade506
Upcoming Events
OSC
23h
All Star Teams
1d 13h
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
All Star Teams
2 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.