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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 19 2011 22:08 GMT
#1541
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.
WriterXiao8~~
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 19 2011 22:15 GMT
#1542
On May 20 2011 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.


If it works that is. There's a window where you can simply die to an aggressive Protoss. I think the question that people ask themselves is, why does Jaedong think he has to go to such lengths to defeat a rookie Protoss? Why not just play standard and be safe?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 22:23:36
May 19 2011 22:16 GMT
#1543
On May 20 2011 04:54 Holgerius wrote:
Unfortunately JD fans and Flash fans aren't exactly the best of friends these days. First Flash ''ruined christmas'' by cheesing JD out of OSL (lol, that LR-thread was hilarious) and then the Power Outage happened on top of that later the same season. I mean, we still get along much better than Flash fans and Bisu fans for example, but the relationship isn't as good as it used to be, I think.


Flash fans and Jaedong fans got along really well when Jaedong was clearly the better player and Flash was a constant disappointment in leagues. When he goes on to become a record setting champion and beat Jaedong specifically many times the fans get at odds. Jaedong fans enjoyed Jaedong's success over Flash and Flash fans were, well, few and far between back then so there wasn't much conflict. Flash gains lots of fans when he becomes amazing, and with lots of fans comes lots of opinions, and comes lots of arguments.
Remember Violet.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
May 19 2011 22:28 GMT
#1544
On May 20 2011 07:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 04:54 Holgerius wrote:
Unfortunately JD fans and Flash fans aren't exactly the best of friends these days. First Flash ''ruined christmas'' by cheesing JD out of OSL (lol, that LR-thread was hilarious) and then the Power Outage happened on top of that later the same season. I mean, we still get along much better than Flash fans and Bisu fans for example, but the relationship isn't as good as it used to be, I think.


Flash fans and Jaedong fans got along really well when Jaedong was clearly the better player and Flash was a constant disappointment in leagues. When he goes on to become a record setting champion and beat Jaedong specifically many times the fans get at odds. Jaedong fans enjoyed Jaedong's success over Flash and Flash fans were, well, few and far between back then so there wasn't much conflict. Flash gains lots of fans when he becomes amazing, and with lots of fans comes lots of opinions, and comes lots of arguments.


Things soured between Flash/JD fans after Nate... then heated up considerably during their next 3 finals meetings. I would say MOST JD and Flash fans have actually mellowed out alot since Bigfile. The resurgence of Bisu has provided us with a common enemy
Jaedong and Baby
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 22:32:20
May 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#1545
Rofl, I just went back and read through the funniest parts of that OSL Ro8 LR-thread when Flash knocked out JD. Best post IMO:

On December 25 2009 18:49 SuperArc wrote:
god flash is gay

he ruined christmas for everyone


Classic SuperArc. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 19 2011 22:34 GMT
#1546
On May 20 2011 07:31 Holgerius wrote:
Rofl, I just went back and read through the funniest parts of that OSL Ro8 LR-thread when Flash knocked out JD. Best post IMO:

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:49 SuperArc wrote:
god flash is gay

he ruined christmas for everyone


Classic SuperArc. ^__^


Haha. And he wasn't banned for that!?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 19 2011 22:42 GMT
#1547
No, he wasn't.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 19 2011 22:42 GMT
#1548
On May 20 2011 07:34 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 07:31 Holgerius wrote:
Rofl, I just went back and read through the funniest parts of that OSL Ro8 LR-thread when Flash knocked out JD. Best post IMO:

On December 25 2009 18:49 SuperArc wrote:
god flash is gay

he ruined christmas for everyone


Classic SuperArc. ^__^


Haha. And he wasn't banned for that!?


He wasn't banned because it was true.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 19 2011 22:54 GMT
#1549
Haha, you had the post right after his:

On December 25 2009 18:49 Megalisk wrote:
FUCK YOU FLASH AND THE CLICK YOU CLAIM
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 23:00:56
May 19 2011 22:55 GMT
#1550
I mispelled clique, Tupac would be offended

EDIT: Hahaha I can't believe I didn't get a temp in that thread I was so butthurt about Jaedong losing and Shine winning
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 19 2011 22:58 GMT
#1551
hydra, hydra, hydra!!!!

hell yeah!

gogogo hydra, for the second championship!
BW is back
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8090 Posts
May 19 2011 23:41 GMT
#1552
Mind . Even though Hydra v Leta or Flash is the more interesting semi, I was pulling for you. .
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 19 2011 23:43 GMT
#1553
On May 20 2011 07:42 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 07:34 Mooncat wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:31 Holgerius wrote:
Rofl, I just went back and read through the funniest parts of that OSL Ro8 LR-thread when Flash knocked out JD. Best post IMO:

On December 25 2009 18:49 SuperArc wrote:
god flash is gay

he ruined christmas for everyone


Classic SuperArc. ^__^


Haha. And he wasn't banned for that!?


He wasn't banned because it was true.


But why? Neither was Flash gay, nor did he ruin Christmas. He was already legitimately one of the best players back then. It's not like Frozean knocked him out or something.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 19 2011 23:46 GMT
#1554
Let's not start arguing about that again. It's history. Funny history. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 19 2011 23:50 GMT
#1555
On May 20 2011 08:46 Holgerius wrote:
Let's not start arguing about that again. It's history. Funny history. ^__^


This, that thread was probably the biggest shitfest of all time, even more than the recent Kellymilkis photoshoot thread, lets leave it in the past ^^.

On another note, is Hydra playing Jaedong next? or the winner of Flash Leta or what O_o.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 19 2011 23:53 GMT
#1556
On May 20 2011 08:46 Holgerius wrote:
Let's not start arguing about that again. It's history. Funny history. ^__^


Sorry if that came across as too serious. I was merely wondering why people were so upset ^^
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 19 2011 23:53 GMT
#1557
On May 20 2011 07:15 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.


If it works that is. There's a window where you can simply die to an aggressive Protoss. I think the question that people ask themselves is, why does Jaedong think he has to go to such lengths to defeat a rookie Protoss? Why not just play standard and be safe?

Jaedong said in the last interview that Grapes macro sucks. It makes sens that he went for the late game.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 19 2011 23:55 GMT
#1558
On May 20 2011 08:53 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 07:15 Mooncat wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.


If it works that is. There's a window where you can simply die to an aggressive Protoss. I think the question that people ask themselves is, why does Jaedong think he has to go to such lengths to defeat a rookie Protoss? Why not just play standard and be safe?

Jaedong said in the last interview that Grapes macro sucks. It makes sens that he went for the late game.


What use is going for late game if you die on the way? :> I mean it did work out, but it might as well have not. People consider it an unnecessary risk I think.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 23:58:49
May 19 2011 23:57 GMT
#1559
On May 20 2011 08:55 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 08:53 Elroi wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:15 Mooncat wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.


If it works that is. There's a window where you can simply die to an aggressive Protoss. I think the question that people ask themselves is, why does Jaedong think he has to go to such lengths to defeat a rookie Protoss? Why not just play standard and be safe?

Jaedong said in the last interview that Grapes macro sucks. It makes sens that he went for the late game.


What use is going for late game if you die on the way? :> I mean it did work out, but it might as well have not. People consider it an unnecessary risk I think.

It looked very safe. Except game 2 Grape was never close to breaking Jaedong
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#1560
On May 20 2011 08:57 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 08:55 Mooncat wrote:
On May 20 2011 08:53 Elroi wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:15 Mooncat wrote:
On May 20 2011 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't Soulkey always do that?Quick fourth, turtle zerg, defend, hivetech 1a2a3a4a?

Its quite effective to be honest.


If it works that is. There's a window where you can simply die to an aggressive Protoss. I think the question that people ask themselves is, why does Jaedong think he has to go to such lengths to defeat a rookie Protoss? Why not just play standard and be safe?

Jaedong said in the last interview that Grapes macro sucks. It makes sens that he went for the late game.


What use is going for late game if you die on the way? :> I mean it did work out, but it might as well have not. People consider it an unnecessary risk I think.

It looked very safe. Except game 2 Grape was never close to breaking Jaedong


True, but Grape's play in that series was extremely one dimensional. He did play better than expected, I'll give him that. But playing the same way every single game in a Bo5 is rarely a good idea I think. I'm just trying to explain why people are wondering about Jaedong's ZvP builds lately.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
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