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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
May 19 2011 16:08 GMT
#1501
On May 19 2011 20:39 MrCon wrote:
We need a SKTerran revival


And die to late ultra, as always?
Common people, bio is no better in late game than mech. Everybody forgot how zergs were raping terrans in the late game before mech transition has been invented?
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
May 19 2011 16:14 GMT
#1502
Phew. Glad to see hydra advancing
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 19 2011 16:17 GMT
#1503
On May 20 2011 00:10 Holgerius wrote:
Most people didn't hate JD in '09. JD has always remained really popular at all times.

He wasn't hated by most people, but he was by some and it wasn't really that small number. But you are right that he wasn't hated that much like Oov was or Flash is now. I think that's because he was never that dominant like them. He usually got kicked out from one league in some silly fashion (Backho etc.), so the frustration couldn't built up that much like in case of Flash in 2010, when he in the end won OSL, MSL, PL and WCG basically at the same time.

On May 20 2011 00:24 Pope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:08 L0thar wrote:
Well Flash is one of the least liked/most hated progamers on TL since the beginning. He has the habit to take people favorites (Bisu, Stork, Jaedong,...) and crush them to the ground leaving only blood and tears behind. Especially the year 2010, when Flash made BW his playground, left a lot of frustration in a lot of people. No wonder these people tend to vent that frustration whenever possible.

That's how it goes. People hated Oov when he rolled everyone, they hated Savior at the height of his dominance, they hated Bisu when he took Savior down, they hated Jaedong during his 2009 run and they hate Flash now. The bigger and more dominat they are, the more are they hated. And since Flash is the best of them all...go figure.

Flash seems like a generally hated character all throughout his career, even before 2010. At one time he was even called the ugly terran. It must be his demeanor or his appearance to people. Jaedong on the other hand has always been a people's favorite, whether he was winning or slumping. Maybe Flash should smile more? Or get good PR for his interviews? His interviews also are not helping him.

That's because he entered his career by cheesing Bisu out of OSL. Back then in was kind of a big deal, we didn't know yet that Bisu and OSL just won't get along lol. Also Bisu fans were even more vicious than they are now. And look, years later and people still get banned because of things they say about Shine. Flash then proceed to kick out JD from GOM Invitational and Bacchus OSL, (again) kick Bisu from the same OSL and on top of that crushed Stork so hard he was crying during the whole interview. BAM, here goes the hate train!

Flash interviews and personality are one of the best there is. However when you hate somebody, you really didn't listen to what he says, unless you could twist it to make him look bad.
mage36
Profile Joined May 2011
415 Posts
May 19 2011 16:23 GMT
#1504
looks like another season where protosses are out early. so sad.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 19 2011 16:27 GMT
#1505
On May 20 2011 01:23 mage36 wrote:
looks like another season where protosses are out early. so sad.


Well, it is historically what is expected. I mean, a large proportion of OSLs for example hardly even had any protoss to begin with - so many would have 2 to 4 total. Protoss is just historically not a very winning race, in terms of golds and silvers.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 19 2011 16:40 GMT
#1506
On May 20 2011 01:08 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 20:39 MrCon wrote:
We need a SKTerran revival


And die to late ultra, as always?
Common people, bio is no better in late game than mech. Everybody forgot how zergs were raping terrans in the late game before mech transition has been invented?


No, but D-matrixed FB was fucking awesome to watch!
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 19 2011 16:41 GMT
#1507
On May 20 2011 01:17 L0thar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:10 Holgerius wrote:
Most people didn't hate JD in '09. JD has always remained really popular at all times.

He wasn't hated by most people, but he was by some and it wasn't really that small number. But you are right that he wasn't hated that much like Oov was or Flash is now. I think that's because he was never that dominant like them. He usually got kicked out from one league in some silly fashion (Backho etc.), so the frustration couldn't built up that much like in case of Flash in 2010, when he in the end won OSL, MSL, PL and WCG basically at the same time.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:24 Pope wrote:
On May 20 2011 00:08 L0thar wrote:
Well Flash is one of the least liked/most hated progamers on TL since the beginning. He has the habit to take people favorites (Bisu, Stork, Jaedong,...) and crush them to the ground leaving only blood and tears behind. Especially the year 2010, when Flash made BW his playground, left a lot of frustration in a lot of people. No wonder these people tend to vent that frustration whenever possible.

That's how it goes. People hated Oov when he rolled everyone, they hated Savior at the height of his dominance, they hated Bisu when he took Savior down, they hated Jaedong during his 2009 run and they hate Flash now. The bigger and more dominat they are, the more are they hated. And since Flash is the best of them all...go figure.

Flash seems like a generally hated character all throughout his career, even before 2010. At one time he was even called the ugly terran. It must be his demeanor or his appearance to people. Jaedong on the other hand has always been a people's favorite, whether he was winning or slumping. Maybe Flash should smile more? Or get good PR for his interviews? His interviews also are not helping him.

That's because he entered his career by cheesing Bisu out of OSL. Back then in was kind of a big deal, we didn't know yet that Bisu and OSL just won't get along lol. Also Bisu fans were even more vicious than they are now. And look, years later and people still get banned because of things they say about Shine. Flash then proceed to kick out JD from GOM Invitational and Bacchus OSL, (again) kick Bisu from the same OSL and on top of that crushed Stork so hard he was crying during the whole interview. BAM, here goes the hate train!

Flash interviews and personality are one of the best there is. However when you hate somebody, you really didn't listen to what he says, unless you could twist it to make him look bad.

I dont think saying "no one alive can beat me" or something like that is what you would call "best personality or interview"
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 19 2011 16:51 GMT
#1508
^
See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you!
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
May 19 2011 16:53 GMT
#1509
im pretty sure fantasy is more hated than flash. and jaedong became my favorite player when he raped fantasy so hard in the 2009 period.

but i think jaedong is everyone's favorite because of his hardworking personality
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
May 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#1510
gogo Hydra, haters gonna hate, and lovers gonna love
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 19 2011 17:19 GMT
#1511
On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote:
^
See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you!

You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof.
Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
May 19 2011 17:24 GMT
#1512
Did the Korean commentators know it was Sean Plott or was it a random white guy spotting?
Bow before the Dongjwa.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
May 19 2011 17:25 GMT
#1513
wow thanks for that Day[9] picture =)))))))
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 19 2011 17:29 GMT
#1514
On May 20 2011 02:19 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote:
^
See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you!

You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof.

It was you who set this course of our discussion in the first place. Taking a vague quote from unsourced interview without context is awfully similar to "unless you could twist it to make him look bad". First post source to this interview and than we can talk about it.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 19 2011 17:36 GMT
#1515
On May 20 2011 02:19 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote:
^
See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you!

You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof.

Are you for real? You included no "specific reference to what Flash said" in your first post. You were actually being very vague and I'm pretty sure Flash has never uttered those exact words.

I believe the quote you were looking for is this one: "It is not possible for a player that can beat me this MSL to exist. It's a matter of fact that no such player exists... I think this MSL finals will feature the strongest two players once again. Well, everyone can try their best at least. But in the end, I will win." Which in its proper context is clearly Flash trying to hype up the Lee-Ssang rivalry during the MSL group selection.
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
May 19 2011 17:36 GMT
#1516
Those time lapse gifs are pretty cool. Just get better quality and more frequent snapshots like every 15 or 20 seconds and those would be perfect.

Awaiting for the good 'ol Jaedong/Flash finals...
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
May 19 2011 17:45 GMT
#1517
*Opens results*

*blinks rapidly*

... Say whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Hydra for repeat champion?!?
All he has to do is beat Flash and Jaedong...
Yep, that's all.
Juuuust Flash and Jaedong.
...

*opens tab for nevake and hits F5*

...

Must see games!
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
May 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#1518
On May 20 2011 02:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
*Opens results*

*blinks rapidly*

... Say whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Hydra for repeat champion?!?
All he has to do is beat Flash and Jaedong...
Yep, that's all.
Juuuust Flash and Jaedong.
...

*opens tab for nevake and hits F5*

...

Must see games!

Pretty much exactly what I did. I was thinking "whoa Hydra is probably actually pretty good." His stats are almost S class (58% overall).
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
May 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#1519
On May 20 2011 02:36 TheMute wrote:
Those time lapse gifs are pretty cool. Just get better quality and more frequent snapshots like every 15 or 20 seconds and those would be perfect.

Awaiting for the good 'ol Jaedong/Flash finals...


Can't get better quality from the stream. If I'm watching Day 3 on saturday, I'll try them with 15-20 second intervals.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
May 19 2011 19:02 GMT
#1520
Hydra just destroys former MSL winners

Calm 3-0
Mind 3-1
Jaedong 3-2
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
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