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On May 19 2011 20:39 MrCon wrote:We need a SKTerran revival
And die to late ultra, as always? Common people, bio is no better in late game than mech. Everybody forgot how zergs were raping terrans in the late game before mech transition has been invented?
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Phew. Glad to see hydra advancing
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On May 20 2011 00:10 Holgerius wrote: Most people didn't hate JD in '09. JD has always remained really popular at all times. He wasn't hated by most people, but he was by some and it wasn't really that small number. But you are right that he wasn't hated that much like Oov was or Flash is now. I think that's because he was never that dominant like them. He usually got kicked out from one league in some silly fashion (Backho etc.), so the frustration couldn't built up that much like in case of Flash in 2010, when he in the end won OSL, MSL, PL and WCG basically at the same time.
On May 20 2011 00:24 Pope wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 00:08 L0thar wrote: Well Flash is one of the least liked/most hated progamers on TL since the beginning. He has the habit to take people favorites (Bisu, Stork, Jaedong,...) and crush them to the ground leaving only blood and tears behind. Especially the year 2010, when Flash made BW his playground, left a lot of frustration in a lot of people. No wonder these people tend to vent that frustration whenever possible.
That's how it goes. People hated Oov when he rolled everyone, they hated Savior at the height of his dominance, they hated Bisu when he took Savior down, they hated Jaedong during his 2009 run and they hate Flash now. The bigger and more dominat they are, the more are they hated. And since Flash is the best of them all...go figure. Flash seems like a generally hated character all throughout his career, even before 2010. At one time he was even called the ugly terran. It must be his demeanor or his appearance to people. Jaedong on the other hand has always been a people's favorite, whether he was winning or slumping. Maybe Flash should smile more? Or get good PR for his interviews? His interviews also are not helping him. That's because he entered his career by cheesing Bisu out of OSL. Back then in was kind of a big deal, we didn't know yet that Bisu and OSL just won't get along lol. Also Bisu fans were even more vicious than they are now. And look, years later and people still get banned because of things they say about Shine. Flash then proceed to kick out JD from GOM Invitational and Bacchus OSL, (again) kick Bisu from the same OSL and on top of that crushed Stork so hard he was crying during the whole interview. BAM, here goes the hate train!
Flash interviews and personality are one of the best there is. However when you hate somebody, you really didn't listen to what he says, unless you could twist it to make him look bad.
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looks like another season where protosses are out early. so sad.
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On May 20 2011 01:23 mage36 wrote: looks like another season where protosses are out early. so sad.
Well, it is historically what is expected. I mean, a large proportion of OSLs for example hardly even had any protoss to begin with - so many would have 2 to 4 total. Protoss is just historically not a very winning race, in terms of golds and silvers.
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On May 20 2011 01:08 hitthat wrote:And die to late ultra, as always? Common people, bio is no better in late game than mech. Everybody forgot how zergs were raping terrans in the late game before mech transition has been invented?
No, but D-matrixed FB was fucking awesome to watch!
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On May 20 2011 01:17 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 00:10 Holgerius wrote: Most people didn't hate JD in '09. JD has always remained really popular at all times. He wasn't hated by most people, but he was by some and it wasn't really that small number. But you are right that he wasn't hated that much like Oov was or Flash is now. I think that's because he was never that dominant like them. He usually got kicked out from one league in some silly fashion (Backho etc.), so the frustration couldn't built up that much like in case of Flash in 2010, when he in the end won OSL, MSL, PL and WCG basically at the same time. Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 00:24 Pope wrote:On May 20 2011 00:08 L0thar wrote: Well Flash is one of the least liked/most hated progamers on TL since the beginning. He has the habit to take people favorites (Bisu, Stork, Jaedong,...) and crush them to the ground leaving only blood and tears behind. Especially the year 2010, when Flash made BW his playground, left a lot of frustration in a lot of people. No wonder these people tend to vent that frustration whenever possible.
That's how it goes. People hated Oov when he rolled everyone, they hated Savior at the height of his dominance, they hated Bisu when he took Savior down, they hated Jaedong during his 2009 run and they hate Flash now. The bigger and more dominat they are, the more are they hated. And since Flash is the best of them all...go figure. Flash seems like a generally hated character all throughout his career, even before 2010. At one time he was even called the ugly terran. It must be his demeanor or his appearance to people. Jaedong on the other hand has always been a people's favorite, whether he was winning or slumping. Maybe Flash should smile more? Or get good PR for his interviews? His interviews also are not helping him. That's because he entered his career by cheesing Bisu out of OSL. Back then in was kind of a big deal, we didn't know yet that Bisu and OSL just won't get along lol. Also Bisu fans were even more vicious than they are now. And look, years later and people still get banned because of things they say about Shine. Flash then proceed to kick out JD from GOM Invitational and Bacchus OSL, (again) kick Bisu from the same OSL and on top of that crushed Stork so hard he was crying during the whole interview. BAM, here goes the hate train! Flash interviews and personality are one of the best there is. However when you hate somebody, you really didn't listen to what he says, unless you could twist it to make him look bad. I dont think saying "no one alive can beat me" or something like that is what you would call "best personality or interview"
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^ See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you!
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im pretty sure fantasy is more hated than flash. and jaedong became my favorite player when he raped fantasy so hard in the 2009 period.
but i think jaedong is everyone's favorite because of his hardworking personality
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gogo Hydra, haters gonna hate, and lovers gonna love
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On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote: ^ See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you! You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof.
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Did the Korean commentators know it was Sean Plott or was it a random white guy spotting?
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wow thanks for that Day[9] picture =)))))))
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On May 20 2011 02:19 sovetskysoyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote: ^ See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you! You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof. It was you who set this course of our discussion in the first place. Taking a vague quote from unsourced interview without context is awfully similar to "unless you could twist it to make him look bad". First post source to this interview and than we can talk about it.
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On May 20 2011 02:19 sovetskysoyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:51 L0thar wrote: ^ See, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. Forget about source, forget about context, forget about the hundreds of other things he says, because Fuck you Flash, I hate you! You're actually not saying anything in response to what I wrote, which was a specific reference to what Flash said which I believe heightened the hate towards him. You merely generalized and concluded without proof. Are you for real? You included no "specific reference to what Flash said" in your first post. You were actually being very vague and I'm pretty sure Flash has never uttered those exact words.
I believe the quote you were looking for is this one: "It is not possible for a player that can beat me this MSL to exist. It's a matter of fact that no such player exists... I think this MSL finals will feature the strongest two players once again. Well, everyone can try their best at least. But in the end, I will win." Which in its proper context is clearly Flash trying to hype up the Lee-Ssang rivalry during the MSL group selection.
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Those time lapse gifs are pretty cool. Just get better quality and more frequent snapshots like every 15 or 20 seconds and those would be perfect.
Awaiting for the good 'ol Jaedong/Flash finals...
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*Opens results*
*blinks rapidly*
... Say whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Hydra for repeat champion?!? All he has to do is beat Flash and Jaedong... Yep, that's all. Juuuust Flash and Jaedong. ...
*opens tab for nevake and hits F5*
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Must see games!
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On May 20 2011 02:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote: *Opens results*
*blinks rapidly*
... Say whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Hydra for repeat champion?!? All he has to do is beat Flash and Jaedong... Yep, that's all. Juuuust Flash and Jaedong. ...
*opens tab for nevake and hits F5*
...
Must see games! Pretty much exactly what I did. I was thinking "whoa Hydra is probably actually pretty good." His stats are almost S class (58% overall).
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On May 20 2011 02:36 TheMute wrote: Those time lapse gifs are pretty cool. Just get better quality and more frequent snapshots like every 15 or 20 seconds and those would be perfect.
Awaiting for the good 'ol Jaedong/Flash finals...
Can't get better quality from the stream. If I'm watching Day 3 on saturday, I'll try them with 15-20 second intervals.
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Hydra just destroys former MSL winners
Calm 3-0 Mind 3-1 Jaedong 3-2
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