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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 14:18:25
April 28 2011 14:15 GMT
#1041
On April 28 2011 22:50 _Quasar_ wrote:
Well... best or not, Stork is with no doubt the second best PvZ'er.

It's pretty sad that the second best PvZer only won 3 of his last 10 PvZ's.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
April 28 2011 14:15 GMT
#1042
So...if you're a toss fan...we get Grape? Or...some other toss?

What the hell man

What the hell.

Hydra V Jaedong finals, I'm down. That was the best ZvZ I have ever seen in my life last season. It blew Hydra V Great out of the water so badly.

Hydra champ, go go go!
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
April 28 2011 14:16 GMT
#1043
4-0 in liquidbets! hell yeah
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 28 2011 14:30 GMT
#1044
On April 28 2011 23:16 vectorix108 wrote:
4-0 in liquidbets! hell yeah



its BO3,you have to wait for 2 more weeks for the final result.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 14:42:13
April 28 2011 14:39 GMT
#1045
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 15:03:01
April 28 2011 15:02 GMT
#1046
On April 28 2011 23:30 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 23:16 vectorix108 wrote:
4-0 in liquidbets! hell yeah



its BO3,you have to wait for 2 more weeks for the final result.

Well I don't know for sure how they're doing it this season, but in the last msl it was only 1 week of waiting because they finished the last 2 games of each series in days 3 and 4.
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 28 2011 15:04 GMT
#1047
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
April 28 2011 15:21 GMT
#1048
On April 29 2011 00:04 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.


ggaemo forgot ling speed in one game or something for a while, but not so sure.

JD was the BAWSE today, owning Reality up.

And of course, Hydra haters gonna hate.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 28 2011 15:37 GMT
#1049
I played an entire TvZ without stim once. Never noticed my rines weren't stimming (mostly due to the fact that I couldn't hear any game sounds due to loud music). I knew something weird was going on because lings didn't melt in front of my MnM balls the way they're supposed to, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it until the end of the game. No idea how I could pay such bad attention to my units.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 28 2011 15:37 GMT
#1050
On April 29 2011 00:04 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.



There was a Proleague game a day or two ago when somebody forgot siege.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 28 2011 15:39 GMT
#1051
On April 29 2011 00:37 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 00:04 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.



There was a Proleague game a day or two ago when somebody forgot siege.

Aw man, I should make a compilation of these. Would be interesting. Wish I had the time for it.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 28 2011 15:40 GMT
#1052
Stork the second best PvZer? Since when? Never? Sounds right.

Maybe he needs to take time off of proleague to practice. That would surely help. Worked so well last MSL, right?... Right?...
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 28 2011 15:41 GMT
#1053
On April 29 2011 00:37 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 00:04 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.



There was a Proleague game a day or two ago when somebody forgot siege.

Sounds like a Hwasin game to me
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 15:57:24
April 28 2011 15:54 GMT
#1054
On April 29 2011 00:40 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Stork the second best PvZer? Since when? Never? Sounds right.

Maybe he needs to take time off of proleague to practice. That would surely help. Worked so well last MSL, right?... Right?...


Well actually... yeah, Stork's pretty much the 2nd best PvZer, going by consistency (which is what ELO aims to measure mainly). Which says as much about PvZ as about Stork, really. Although for all the bad press he gets a 57% winrate ain't bad.

It's more that Stork's PvZ tends to what I call "fantasy syndrome" - beat Jaedong one day, lose to Shine (or worse, Orion) the next by dumb mistakes. Recently though it's been more "bad Jaedong syndrome" - lose to every good player he faces.

On the other hand, it's also clear that nobody except Bisu is actually really good at PvZ on a consistent basis - but when we say Bisu's really good, we mean godlike good. 171 ELO clear of the #2 PvZ? Amazing. Highest matchup ELO of any P in any matchup? Ridiculous. 2nd highest matchup ELO of any player in any matchup (after Flash's TvT)? Insane.

On April 29 2011 00:21 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 00:04 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 28 2011 23:39 Emon_ wrote:
Stork played such a fine game with his super fast third expansion. Templars were out, obs were out. A million zealots had been teleported in from some other dimension. That fucking storm. . .

On April 28 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Stork didn't start the upgrade until he tried to push out against the hydras and noticed his HTs weren't doing anything....

Wait, what? I had people over so I missed the games, but Stork forgot Storm? Damn, that joins the list of SC facepalms (sAviOr and Adrenal Glands, Stork and Dragoon Range, Jaedong and Consume...am I forgetting anything?)

Also, awesome to come back and see Jaedong winning. From the LR, looks like the game was pretty epic. Will need to watch when VODs come out.


ggaemo forgot ling speed in one game or something for a while, but not so sure.


Jaedong canceling his spire vs Bisu on HBR.

Idra canceling his CC vs Nony in TSL2.
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trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
April 28 2011 16:12 GMT
#1055
Hydra win against Stork. wow. cz I dont watch live.
and Light win!!! :D
and I saw a lot of zergs.
congrats Hydra, Light, Calm and Jaedong. Need to watch the vods asap.
Learn,live and love it.
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 16:19:12
April 28 2011 16:18 GMT
#1056
[B]On April 29 2011 00:54 VGhost wroteWell actually... yeah, Stork's pretty much the 2nd best PvZer, going by consistency (which is what ELO aims to measure mainly). Which says as much about PvZ as about Stork, really. Although for all the bad press he gets a 57% winrate ain't bad.


Stork's PvZ is kind of like Bisu's PvT. Bisu has the third-best lifetime PvT record (for players over 33 wins in that match-up; Snow has 63.89% and 23 wins) at 61.08%, after Stork's 66.82% and BeSt's 64.21%. Stork has the fifth-best lifetime PvZ record at 55.94%, after Bisu's 70.93%, Movie's 56.76%, free's 56.43%, and Kal's 56% - and those last numbers are so close that it's basically a four-way tie for second-best PvZ, with Bisu having lapped everyone else.

In any case, I think that for both Bisu's PvT and Stork's PvZ, they're both excellent match-ups for them, comparing historically to both older players and their contemporaries, but because Bisu's PvT gets compared to his PvZ and to Stork's PvT, and Stork's PvZ gets compared to his PvT and Bisu's PvZ, it makes them look worse than they actually should.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 28 2011 16:24 GMT
#1057
Hydra is way over-hyped. Stork could easily win that series.

Also, GOGO CALM / JAEDONG
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 28 2011 16:32 GMT
#1058
On April 28 2011 23:15 TheGlassface wrote:
So...if you're a toss fan...we get Grape? Or...some other toss?

What the hell man

What the hell.

Hydra V Jaedong finals, I'm down. That was the best ZvZ I have ever seen in my life last season. It blew Hydra V Great out of the water so badly.

Hydra champ, go go go!

Grape is good yo.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 28 2011 17:27 GMT
#1059
On April 29 2011 01:32 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 23:15 TheGlassface wrote:
So...if you're a toss fan...we get Grape? Or...some other toss?

What the hell man

What the hell.

Hydra V Jaedong finals, I'm down. That was the best ZvZ I have ever seen in my life last season. It blew Hydra V Great out of the water so badly.

Hydra champ, go go go!

Grape is good yo.

He is, but it's probably not particularly relevant since he's likely going to get crushed by horang2.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#1060
On April 29 2011 02:27 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 01:32 Ryo wrote:
On April 28 2011 23:15 TheGlassface wrote:
So...if you're a toss fan...we get Grape? Or...some other toss?

What the hell man

What the hell.

Hydra V Jaedong finals, I'm down. That was the best ZvZ I have ever seen in my life last season. It blew Hydra V Great out of the water so badly.

Hydra champ, go go go!

Grape is good yo.

He is, but it's probably not particularly relevant since he's likely going to get crushed by horang2.

We shall see.
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