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kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
March 31 2011 10:04 GMT
#621
On March 31 2011 18:58 Seraphic wrote:
the only thing Pure had to deal with was 1 Goliath. If he had found a way to Stasis it, he would have won just by picking off the tanks one by one. Why in the world would he Stasis both Vessels for? What does that accomplish if he wasn't going to rush with his units?

The Goliath hit his observer twice, he knew it was there. Picking off the tanks one by one with an Arbiter is safer then trying to rush in with the entire army + Arbiter if he knew Leta had 2 Vessels.


There was 2 win conditions pure had, he could either disable the goliath then win with air vs no antiair, or he could disable both vessels and win with cloak vs no detection.

The first option has the risk of arbiter being emped before getting to the goliath, pure attempted many times and was emped most times. He was slow on the uptake while leta was in the field and when leta was turtled, this option was not feasable

Disabling 2 vessels, you can stasis before getting hit by an emp, so one vessel should be able to be taken out with no problem, as you saw, 2 can be stasise with proper micro, pure in a way succeed with this win condition, his problem was, he stuck around and let the unchecked goliath kill his only cloaking unit, hence the draw. One can imagine if he waited and got his arbiter out, then ran up the ramp with cloaked zealots.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
March 31 2011 10:04 GMT
#622
This looks exactly like the last game. Would be something if the end also will be the same.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 31 2011 10:05 GMT
#623
is this a replay or smth?
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
March 31 2011 10:05 GMT
#624
On March 31 2011 19:04 arbiter_md wrote:
This looks exactly like the last game. Would be something if the end also will be the same.


if that happens they should DQ pure and leta and let sk/m18m advance lol
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
March 31 2011 10:05 GMT
#625
maybe Pure knew something we didn't. He had a lot of chances to try and win it with his Arbiter alone. If he started to just picking off the tanks with it, he would have forced the Goliath out eventually. It is not like the Vessel is gonna shoot back.

I just don't get what was going through his head when he SHOULD have been attacking all along with the Arbiter. it's so frustrating.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
March 31 2011 10:06 GMT
#626
Citadel going up. Looks like dts.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
March 31 2011 10:07 GMT
#627
On March 31 2011 19:05 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 19:04 arbiter_md wrote:
This looks exactly like the last game. Would be something if the end also will be the same.


if that happens they should DQ pure and leta and let sk/m18m advance lol


haha i feel so sorry for them waiting for these two
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 31 2011 10:07 GMT
#628
On March 31 2011 19:04 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 18:58 Seraphic wrote:
the only thing Pure had to deal with was 1 Goliath. If he had found a way to Stasis it, he would have won just by picking off the tanks one by one. Why in the world would he Stasis both Vessels for? What does that accomplish if he wasn't going to rush with his units?

The Goliath hit his observer twice, he knew it was there. Picking off the tanks one by one with an Arbiter is safer then trying to rush in with the entire army + Arbiter if he knew Leta had 2 Vessels.


There was 2 win conditions pure had, he could either disable the goliath then win with air vs no antiair, or he could disable both vessels and win with cloak vs no detection.

The first option has the risk of arbiter being emped before getting to the goliath, pure attempted many times and was emped most times. He was slow on the uptake while leta was in the field and when leta was turtled, this option was not feasable

Disabling 2 vessels, you can stasis before getting hit by an emp, so one vessel should be able to be taken out with no problem, as you saw, 2 can be stasise with proper micro, pure in a way succeed with this win condition, his problem was, he stuck around and let the unchecked goliath kill his only cloaking unit, hence the draw. One can imagine if he waited and got his arbiter out, then ran up the ramp with cloaked zealots.

Ummmm... Before he stasised the remaining SVs, He dodged 3(?) EMPs (leaves the SVs without energy). He can easily go for option A from that point but he did option C, which is try both A and B then fail.
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
March 31 2011 10:08 GMT
#629
On March 31 2011 19:05 Seraphic wrote:
maybe Pure knew something we didn't. He had a lot of chances to try and win it with his Arbiter alone. If he started to just picking off the tanks with it, he would have forced the Goliath out eventually. It is not like the Vessel is gonna shoot back.

I just don't get what was going through his head when he SHOULD have been attacking all along with the Arbiter. it's so frustrating.


Leta had two sci vessels and he would have just used defensive matrixes : \ Statis-ing two sci vessels would have been easier to execute on his part i guess.... he just didn't expect to lose it
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pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
March 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#630
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#631
something different happened: leta made a dropship
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
March 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#632
Leta has a dropship, moving out now
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
March 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#633
Pure lays down his 3th

Leta starts his CC

I hope it's not another 1 hour game...
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 31 2011 10:09 GMT
#634
On March 31 2011 19:09 pvzvt wrote:
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk

Yeah I'd imagine them both to be pretty exhausted after this game
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 31 2011 10:10 GMT
#635
successful drop
these positions are also a lot more favorable for leta
also he probably won't be caught with his pants down by a recall this game
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 31 2011 10:11 GMT
#636
On March 31 2011 19:09 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 19:09 pvzvt wrote:
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk

Yeah I'd imagine them both to be pretty exhausted after this game

I really do not buy this argument ever. How many hours a day do they practice? Why would you expect them to be exhausted after 50 minutes of playing, a decent portion of it at very low apm?
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
March 31 2011 10:12 GMT
#637
Leta's just turtling hardcore right now
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 31 2011 10:12 GMT
#638
On March 31 2011 19:09 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 19:09 pvzvt wrote:
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk

Yeah I'd imagine them both to be pretty exhausted after this game

SK/M18m will advance. Both of them are well rested and will win the Winners'/Losers' match or M18M loses then we will see a Leta vs Pure re.
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popzags
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland604 Posts
March 31 2011 10:12 GMT
#639
On March 31 2011 19:09 pvzvt wrote:
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk

Yeah, but they'll have the motivation to win and avoid the possibility of playing each other in last set.
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Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
March 31 2011 10:12 GMT
#640
On March 31 2011 19:11 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 19:09 Hyde wrote:
On March 31 2011 19:09 pvzvt wrote:
no matter who wins this he will be so wasted to play sk

Yeah I'd imagine them both to be pretty exhausted after this game

I really do not buy this argument ever. How many hours a day do they practice? Why would you expect them to be exhausted after 50 minutes of playing, a decent portion of it at very low apm?


Playing in tournaments is very different from playing practice games, though.
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