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[SWL] Playoffs Day 2: SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung Oz - Page…
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Although it's great to be fans of your respective teams, remember to keep all discourse civil. Progamers work very hard, and there are probably reasons as to why certain players are sent out at certain times. Further disrespectful posts will be dealt with strictly. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Looks like it *hugs mustaju* | ||
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:18 miky_ardiente wrote: lol, i think u didnt understand what i said, i said that both entus and oz fanboys are now supporting kt to beat skt out of nothing more than sadness and deception of their own teams, when they should be proud they die fighting and acomplish getting far in winers league and i think bisu has more fans (both males and females) thaan flash does bisu even won the best terran of the last year poll xD I'm in no way proud of OZ, just jaedong, I don't feel too bad since one shouldn't expect a single player to beat an entire team, it's not really fair.So, since the better team won, I'd prolly hope that the better team between Rolster and SKT came out on top, but KT has Flash and Flash brought too many tears, ergo, I ll root fiercely for SKT. | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:23 mustaju wrote: This outcome is completely satisfactory for me, and I'm most definitely happy that the greatest player ever won against Jaedong. Now I'm proceeding to not be happy for the rest of the month for reasons that are completely unrelated. <3 it's ok,  but seriously, too bad JD's teammates couldn't really back him up today. Getting 2-killed by Ssak? seriously?... JD vs Fantasy/Bisu were really good games though--didn't disappoint! | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:28 bITt.mAN wrote: I think its in 1 week, I hope yeah, it's 4/9 so in 1 week. | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:12 Monkeyshark wrote: thats the decent zerg lololDidn't KT just obtain another decent zerg? | ||
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w03
United States3 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:18 kamikami wrote: I think every other toss would have lost already against this build, it denied all chance of succesful first attack and put the toss behind 2 base vs 4 base and they will be clueless about what to do next. I think most toss will just sacrify their army to sunkens/mutas for no gain or just try to bolster enough force to protect the 3 base. Bisu's corrected that for you. Any protoss can be super aggressive, it's just Bisu knows how to make the most out of his aggression and has the best PvZ micro to make it seem imba. Were it not for that blunder of letting the Zerglings run in, that would've been a perfect game by Bisu. | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:28 ]343[ wrote: its not completely his teammates fault, the damned coach sent dear... if he sent PM instead, they would still have hiya<3 it's ok, but seriously, too bad JD's teammates couldn't really back him up today. Getting 2-killed by Ssak? seriously?... JD vs Fantasy/Bisu were really good games though--didn't disappoint! | ||
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Legatus Lanius
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:28 ]343[ wrote: <3 it's ok, That statement shocks and confuses me and does not make me a bit more hopeful for the week to come. I'm at a loss for words. + Show Spoiler + Thank you. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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hmmm...
632 Posts
seriously wth's up with sending rookies like dear, dream, etc. these past matches. unless they're seriously tearing it apart in practice, let the ppl with big-stage experience play big-stage events. gawd | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1281 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On April 02 2011 16:46 hmmm... wrote: i'm really not like the coaching staff of OZ right now.... seriously wth's up with sending rookies like dear, dream, etc. these past matches. unless they're seriously tearing it apart in practice, let the ppl with big-stage experience play big-stage events. gawd To be fair the coaching staff did fine. It was closer to the fault of Killer that they performed so abysmally -- Killer should have won the first match, but he failed rather terribly late game, throwing the game away. Dear you can't blame too much, but I don't think that cheese was a good idea obviously -- and got sucker punched pretty much. Dunno why Dear was sent out and why he chose such a radical strat against someone who wasn't like, Fantasy or something. PMan was PMan, can't blame him for being true to his nature. PvZ is so fragile on Zerg's part. It's really tough watching that match up T_T | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
Also Jaedong always plays the insanely risky style, so blame him for losing so often for being so damn risky. Most other Zergs play a somewhat more conservative, less risky style lol.. | ||
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On April 02 2011 17:07 ArvickHero wrote: roflmao its not like PvZ is easy for Protoss either. In fact there's a good reason why Z>P historically (and ZvP has the higher winning percentage still when averaging out all the current maps win%). Zergs look fragile when they play against Bisu, but Bisu's PvZ is 70% and there's only 2 PvZ's that exceed 59% (Not counting Brave). Also Jaedong always plays the insanely risky style, so blame him for losing so often for being so damn risky. Most other Zergs play a somewhat more conservative, less risky style lol.. ZvP ratio dropped quite a bit over this season. What you said is true the last few years, but this year ZvP is def Protoss favored. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On April 02 2011 17:10 Milkis wrote: ZvP ratio dropped quite a bit over this season. What you said is true the last few years, but this year ZvP is def Protoss favored. I'd argue its still Zerg favored, but not as much to the point where it's a pretty balanced matchup. Zergs lost a lot the beginning of this season because A) Bisu skewing the numbers and B) Many Zergs just dying to the initial 6-8 Zealots before they figured out the optimal reaction against it (some Zergs still die to it today rofl). I still its a little Zerg favored because of how insanely good large Lurker fields + Swarm and ninja plaguing is (therefore Ultra/ling falling out of favor recently) if Zergs can get to that stage, but its still pretty balanced since both races can straight up win w.o. allining outright at any stage of the game past early-midgame (unlike TvZ lol) | ||
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On April 02 2011 17:22 ArvickHero wrote: I'd argue its still Zerg favored, but not as much to the point where it's a pretty balanced matchup. Zergs lost a lot the beginning of this season because A) Bisu skewing the numbers and B) Many Zergs just dying to the initial 6-8 Zealots before they figured out the optimal reaction against it (some Zergs still die to it today rofl). I still its a little Zerg favored because of how insanely good large Lurker fields + Swarm and ninja plaguing is (therefore Ultra/ling falling out of favor recently) if Zergs can get to that stage, but its still pretty balanced since both races can straight up win outright at any stage of the game. A "little" Zerg favored? You may be right about that. But the point is that there has been a rather large drop in ZvP win rate even after you remove Bisu/Jaedong. Of course it's more accentuated with Bisu but the difference still exists. Hell, at some point the 100 game average dropped below 50 For ZvP, which is quite amusing. You guys will be able to see these charts someday ~~~~ | ||
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