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Although it's great to be fans of your respective teams, remember to keep all discourse civil. Progamers work very hard, and there are probably reasons as to why certain players are sent out at certain times.

Further disrespectful posts will be dealt with strictly.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 02 2011 07:17 GMT
#2521
On April 02 2011 16:02 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Poor Jaedong. Always gets so close only to lose in the end. Oh well, atleast he lost to someone respectable and not s2.

This overly defensive and passive style seems to play right into Bisu's strengths.

Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure that this was the same style Bisu was having trouble dealing with the last couple years (ala his consistent losses against Zero/Hero). But now he's seem to learn how to destroy it hehe
Writerptrk
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 02 2011 07:17 GMT
#2522
On April 02 2011 16:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:10 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:08 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Denied a LeeSsang Rok at WL finals

Yeaaaah that's okay. You can watch some of the billions of JvF VODs, though.

Instead we get a finals with 1 decent zerg between the top 2 teams in PL lol


It's like a fact of life. Just like toss can't win any title.

next season...just maybe...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 02 2011 07:17 GMT
#2523
I don't really get this build by JD. What's the point of going for air superiority if your mutas are just defending the whole time (although this is a credit to Bisu's aggression) and allow the protoss to expand everywhere. If JD had the chance to use his mutas to prevent Bisu from getting a 3rd, I can see how it might work but with the way it's playing out right now, this strat doesn't seem particularly effective.

there was nothing wrong with the build it was losing all the scouge for nothing that hurt him. That happended because Bisus DT destracted Jaedong. Not sure whether Bisu new Jaedongs air army was there in the centre of the map of whther he just got lucky and ran into it as Jaedong was destracted but thats what put jaedong behind. Losing the scouge meant the corsairs where a lot more powerful and could join the first attack. Which meant the mutas couldn't deal with the zealots they had to fight the corsairs.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 02 2011 07:18 GMT
#2524
On April 02 2011 16:12 miky_ardiente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:10 Taekwon wrote:
Haters gunna hate.

No srsly stop hating =/

hahahahahha dont worry men
they are just that
haters and guess what happened to entus and oz fans
they are now supporting kt to beat us, idk but i think thats kind of silly and lame, just acept defeat like men and wish luck to us, at least i would do that

You do know that many people dislike SKT because of their fans? They are always hating and trash-talking and everything. I mean, posts like this one:

On April 02 2011 13:55 pinkranger15 wrote:
wraith!!!! gg already you fucker. lolololol!!!

are they seriously sending a scrub at a time like this? STUPID MOVE BY OZ.
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
April 02 2011 07:18 GMT
#2525
On April 02 2011 16:14 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:12 miky_ardiente wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:10 Taekwon wrote:
Haters gunna hate.

No srsly stop hating =/

hahahahahha dont worry men
they are just that
haters and guess what happened to entus and oz fans
they are now supporting kt to beat us, idk but i think thats kind of silly and lame, just acept defeat like men and wish luck to us, at least i would do that


Except SKT just beat Oz and Flash is way more likable than Bisu.

lol, i think u didnt understand what i said, i said that both entus and oz fanboys are now supporting kt to beat skt out of nothing more than sadness and deception of their own teams, when they should be proud they die fighting and acomplish getting far in winers league

and i think bisu has more fans (both males and females) thaan flash does

bisu even won the best terran of the last year poll xD
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 02 2011 07:18 GMT
#2526
So...we wait another week yeah?
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kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
April 02 2011 07:18 GMT
#2527
On April 02 2011 16:11 DarkMatter_ wrote:
I don't really get this build by JD. What's the point of going for air superiority if your mutas are just defending the whole time (although this is a credit to Bisu's aggression) and allow the protoss to expand everywhere. If JD had the chance to use his mutas to prevent Bisu from getting a 3rd, I can see how it might work but with the way it's playing out right now, this strat doesn't seem particularly effective.


I think every other toss would have lost already against this build, it denied all chance of succesful first attack and put the toss behind 2 base vs 4 base and they will be clueless about what to do next. I think most toss will just sacrify their army to sunkens/mutas for no gain or just try to bolster enough force to protect the 3 base.

Bisu's heavy agression was what won him the game, he constantly harrassed the Zerg on many fronts to the point that Zerg cannot deny his expos and forced to use all his force to deal with harrasment and pressure.
Khassar de Templari
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
April 02 2011 07:19 GMT
#2528
On April 02 2011 16:18 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:12 miky_ardiente wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:10 Taekwon wrote:
Haters gunna hate.

No srsly stop hating =/

hahahahahha dont worry men
they are just that
haters and guess what happened to entus and oz fans
they are now supporting kt to beat us, idk but i think thats kind of silly and lame, just acept defeat like men and wish luck to us, at least i would do that

You do know that many people dislike SKT because of their fans? They are always hating and trash-talking and everything. I mean, posts like this one:

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 13:55 pinkranger15 wrote:
wraith!!!! gg already you fucker. lolololol!!!

are they seriously sending a scrub at a time like this? STUPID MOVE BY OZ.

thanks
i did not knowed that
i guess all teams have fans like that right
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 02 2011 07:19 GMT
#2529
Bee SUIT FIGHTING! The last game was fairly good, Bisu played really well when his team needed him most. I hope for a good finals.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 02 2011 07:20 GMT
#2530
On April 02 2011 16:18 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:11 DarkMatter_ wrote:
I don't really get this build by JD. What's the point of going for air superiority if your mutas are just defending the whole time (although this is a credit to Bisu's aggression) and allow the protoss to expand everywhere. If JD had the chance to use his mutas to prevent Bisu from getting a 3rd, I can see how it might work but with the way it's playing out right now, this strat doesn't seem particularly effective.

Bisu's heavy agression was what won him the game, he constantly harrassed the Zerg on many fronts to the point that Zerg cannot deny his expos and forced to use all his force to deal with harrasment and pressure.

And don't forget his army composition, it was pretty much perfect.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 02 2011 07:21 GMT
#2531
So now SKT has to take on Flash. Sounds like a great final to me. Though LeeSsangRok would be great as well...
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
April 02 2011 07:22 GMT
#2532
On April 02 2011 16:19 miky_ardiente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:18 Lucumo wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:12 miky_ardiente wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:10 Taekwon wrote:
Haters gunna hate.

No srsly stop hating =/

hahahahahha dont worry men
they are just that
haters and guess what happened to entus and oz fans
they are now supporting kt to beat us, idk but i think thats kind of silly and lame, just acept defeat like men and wish luck to us, at least i would do that

You do know that many people dislike SKT because of their fans? They are always hating and trash-talking and everything. I mean, posts like this one:

On April 02 2011 13:55 pinkranger15 wrote:
wraith!!!! gg already you fucker. lolololol!!!

are they seriously sending a scrub at a time like this? STUPID MOVE BY OZ.

thanks
i did not knowed that
i guess all teams have fans like that right


SKT has a higher amount of those fans per capita.

And I'm not even an Oz fan. MBC is my favorite team.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
April 02 2011 07:23 GMT
#2533
This outcome is completely satisfactory for me, and I'm most definitely happy that the greatest player ever won against Jaedong. Now I'm proceeding to not be happy for the rest of the month for reasons that are completely unrelated.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
April 02 2011 07:23 GMT
#2534
On April 02 2011 16:22 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:19 miky_ardiente wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:18 Lucumo wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:12 miky_ardiente wrote:
On April 02 2011 16:10 Taekwon wrote:
Haters gunna hate.

No srsly stop hating =/

hahahahahha dont worry men
they are just that
haters and guess what happened to entus and oz fans
they are now supporting kt to beat us, idk but i think thats kind of silly and lame, just acept defeat like men and wish luck to us, at least i would do that

You do know that many people dislike SKT because of their fans? They are always hating and trash-talking and everything. I mean, posts like this one:

On April 02 2011 13:55 pinkranger15 wrote:
wraith!!!! gg already you fucker. lolololol!!!

are they seriously sending a scrub at a time like this? STUPID MOVE BY OZ.

thanks
i did not knowed that
i guess all teams have fans like that right


SKT has a higher amount of those fans per capita.

And I'm not even an Oz fan. MBC is my favorite team.


But... SKT fans support MBC...
We are supposed to be ally because of Bisu.
Khassar de Templari
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
April 02 2011 07:23 GMT
#2535
On April 02 2011 16:23 mustaju wrote:
This outcome is completely satisfactory for me, and I'm most definitely happy that the greatest player ever won against Jaedong. Now I'm proceeding to not be happy for the rest of the month for reasons that are completely unrelated.


lol. tough life eh mustaju?
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
April 02 2011 07:24 GMT
#2536
On April 02 2011 16:23 mustaju wrote:
This outcome is completely satisfactory for me, and I'm most definitely happy that the greatest player ever won against Jaedong. Now I'm proceeding to not be happy for the rest of the month for reasons that are completely unrelated.

I would feel extreme pity for you
if your statement were not 100% correct
Translator:3
Aim 4 My Head
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand69 Posts
April 02 2011 07:24 GMT
#2537
On April 02 2011 16:23 mustaju wrote:
This outcome is completely satisfactory for me, and I'm most definitely happy that the greatest player ever won against Jaedong. Now I'm proceeding to not be happy for the rest of the month for reasons that are completely unrelated.


Sorry to say it buddy, but brace yourself to be even unhappier when Flash wins the finals for KT
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 02 2011 07:24 GMT
#2538
Skt has got to get their shit together in the finals. They are facing a different KT, not the KTFlash but a deep KT with Action, Stats and co.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Phayt
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada346 Posts
April 02 2011 07:24 GMT
#2539
But really, though I don't want to complain about line ups or anything, it is weird that HIyA did not play tonight. I feel like he absolutely should have replaced one of the protoss that played tonight. He was OZ's best performer during WL, wasn't he? When he's at his best, I thnk HiyA really can be a top 10 player, and definitely OZ's second. Well, regardless, GO OZ! OZ FIGHTING!, make the regular playoffs, and so everyone what you've got!

(Regardless, GG to all players tonight, good games)
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 02 2011 07:25 GMT
#2540
No srsly, when are the finals =/
Nothing on future events
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