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pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
November 12 2004 21:26 GMT
#81
well.... I just hope that this doesn't over shadow the finals, because the finals I am excited about
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
November 12 2004 21:27 GMT
#82
On November 13 2004 05:45 ret wrote:
It is infact hard to play zvt without fast exp tho.

2 rax tank push -> hard to stop right?
2 rax to dropship lift -> hard to stop if done well right?
2 rax cc mass macro terran -> hard to beat right?
2 rax 1-0 straightforward to vessel tank play -> hard to beat if terran has good micro right?
2 port wraith. etc
metal. etc
and so on.



imagine being safe vs all these strategies with pool BEFORE hatch...and not actually being behind a significant ammount...
didnt yellow popularise the 12 pool -> expand build? so why didnt he try that?
aka StormtoSS
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 12 2004 21:32 GMT
#83
BOXER HAS GOT SOME REAL COJONES
luv it
boxer for president for urinating all over yellow
art T_T

poor yellow as a person, as a gamer 'ha ha!' to him
aka sunsHine
Addicted`To`Zerg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria1353 Posts
November 12 2004 21:46 GMT
#84
once again big sorry for yellow
Addicted`To`Zerg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria1353 Posts
November 12 2004 21:49 GMT
#85
On November 13 2004 02:56 SickofLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2004 01:59 Addicted`To`Zerg wrote:
On November 12 2004 22:19 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
This is a post that Yellow wrote on his fan site to his fans a few hours after the semis.


which site - give us link pls


His Cafe-Duam page. Unless you can read Korean, a link would be useless.


i use wordlingo to translate korean and chinese it is good
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 22:06 GMT
#86
He sounds really depressed >.<

Poor Yellow. I wanted boxer to win, but now I feel sorry for Yellow >.<
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
3LvIs
Profile Joined September 2004
Australia10 Posts
November 12 2004 22:28 GMT
#87
Lets hope Yellow can get his revenge b4 boxer retires...
Go Go Yellow!
HONG JIN HO!!
archer
Profile Joined February 2004
China28 Posts
November 12 2004 22:29 GMT
#88
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS IS FROM YELLOW~!~

red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
November 12 2004 23:06 GMT
#89
Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position.

How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_-
Broom
Mr. Mystery
Profile Joined October 2004
United States25 Posts
November 12 2004 23:19 GMT
#90
Boxer should go to hell, god dammit
As I've already said in another thread, this kid just sucks.
Seriously, how many fuckin games did he win lately except for these kinds of pussy cheesy strats?

I feel really sorry for Yellow. What he posted on his cafe saddens me even more.
To perceive is to suffer.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 23:19 GMT
#91
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote:
Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position.

How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_-


They should try to balance out the maps more.
Ramps could have helped Yellow in preventing Boxer's bunker rush.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
SonRK
Profile Joined July 2004
United States126 Posts
November 12 2004 23:24 GMT
#92
That made me respect yellow even more now.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 12 2004 23:27 GMT
#93
On November 13 2004 04:11 Silvanel wrote:
While it is certainly sad i dont see point in blaming anythink expect yellow himself for it. Common people were always saying that terran/protts/zerg is weakest race, it can't win on certian maps, or versus. I remember times when almost everyone were saying that protoss is too weak, and there when noone has expected that reach and ra poped out. The only thing that does not change is yellow complaing on the game itself and weekness of zerg. I remember him saying that in some talk with Bill Roper years ago. It his and only his foult, he is blaiming game itself for the fact he could not win, for the fact he was cheesed 3 times in row. If the terran is reaaly that powerfull, maybe he should switched to terr, and not stick to that "usless" zerg.

He should blame his attitude towards the game for his loses, if he really thinks that his chances are lower, and he cant win despite better perfomce becouse of the imbalance of game itself then u got an answer. He already lost mental aspect of the game.

I will put it in strong words maybe too strong but i belive this true.

Yellow has loser mentality and that is his problem, nothing more.

Uh did you miss the part of the post where he says he hates himself for blaming the game?

Meaning he knows it isn't the game.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 12 2004 23:33 GMT
#94
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote:
Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position.

How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_-

Uh? Top 3 hasn't been terran until very recently o_O

Grrr-Ssamjjang-byun-hot (I wasn't around then but I think those were the top 4?) Maybe intotherain as well or was that before? I know he never did well on OGN except for his top 8 coca cola.. or top 16 or something ;o

Then Boxer-Yellow-Garimto-Themarine
Then Boxer-Yellow-Reach-Nada
Then Boxer-Nada-Nal_ra-Kingdom
Now Boxer-Nada-Oov-Reach-Yellow

Yes?

This might not be entirely accurate if you just look at the pgr21.com rankings but those are overall, not for the current time ;o
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
November 12 2004 23:33 GMT
#95
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote:
Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position.

How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_-

in the first years the top players were not T... until terrans learned to play well and stop the most common threats

my guess is zerg and protoss should adapt just as terran did once
Son Of Law
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
November 12 2004 23:42 GMT
#96
On November 12 2004 22:19 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
Ah~I wanna cry. Being a professional and blaming the game for my losses..I feel so ashamed and am about to go crazy.


For people who are bashing Yellow for being unprofessional for blaming the game or screaming imbalance, I think Yellow himself realizes the unprofessional nature of what he's saying. No one likes to think that their hours of practice has been for nothing (especially the way it was in the semis), and the natural response due to frustration and shame would be to think that the game must be imbalanced. When Yellow gets over the initial shock, anger, and depression he'll find a way to counter the strat.

People keep saying that Terran dominates every league all the time (or the greater majority at least), but there hasn't been a Terran in the OSL final since Olympus 2003. The last ITV league was won by a zerg, and although the MSL has had all Terran champions but one, we also have to consider that two players have won 6 out of 8 MSL/KPGA leagues (Nada and Oov).
[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (S)1912 Posts
November 12 2004 23:48 GMT
#97
Read the thread before you post plz-_-
Hexatron Bba!!
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 12 2004 23:49 GMT
#98
u guys think boxer's cheesy rush is a guranteed win. IDIOTS! no fucking cheesy rush in bw gurantees a win. If u can pull off such a win, u DESERVED the win. boxer did it. give him the credit. If the best zerg in the world can not defend the first wave of rush from boxer, how the fuck do u expect some ggs? perhaps boxer should have had pulled back and give yellow a chance to recover or something cuz some kiddies on tl.net will be upset if yellow die too soon.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
November 12 2004 23:51 GMT
#99
On November 13 2004 08:48 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote:
Read the thread before you post plz-_-


It wasn't a direct response to what you posted ;;. I did read the whole thread and my post was directed to people who were either bashing Yellow for being "unprofessional" and blaming the game, and people who were agreeing with Yellow's statement on Terran imbalance (which I think was just a product of Yellow being angry and ashamed, not his true feelings) and cited Terran's "constant" dominance in leagues.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 23:53:12
November 12 2004 23:52 GMT
#100
On November 13 2004 08:19 Mr. Mystery wrote:
Boxer should go to hell, god dammit
As I've already said in another thread, this kid just sucks.
Seriously, how many fuckin games did he win lately except for these kinds of pussy cheesy strats?

I feel really sorry for Yellow. What he posted on his cafe saddens me even more.


i think u should go to hell.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
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