Yellow's side of the story. - Page 5
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On November 13 2004 05:45 ret wrote: didnt yellow popularise the 12 pool -> expand build? so why didnt he try that?It is infact hard to play zvt without fast exp tho. 2 rax tank push -> hard to stop right? 2 rax to dropship lift -> hard to stop if done well right? 2 rax cc mass macro terran -> hard to beat right? 2 rax 1-0 straightforward to vessel tank play -> hard to beat if terran has good micro right? 2 port wraith. etc metal. etc and so on. imagine being safe vs all these strategies with pool BEFORE hatch...and not actually being behind a significant ammount... | ||
Gp.Lao
Belgium445 Posts
luv it boxer for president for urinating all over yellow art T_T poor yellow as a person, as a gamer 'ha ha!' to him | ||
Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
On November 13 2004 02:56 SickofLife wrote: His Cafe-Duam page. Unless you can read Korean, a link would be useless. i use wordlingo to translate korean and chinese it is good | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Poor Yellow. I wanted boxer to win, but now I feel sorry for Yellow >.< | ||
3LvIs
Australia10 Posts
Go Go Yellow! HONG JIN HO!! | ||
archer
China28 Posts
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_- | ||
Mr. Mystery
United States25 Posts
As I've already said in another thread, this kid just sucks. Seriously, how many fuckin games did he win lately except for these kinds of pussy cheesy strats? I feel really sorry for Yellow. What he posted on his cafe saddens me even more. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote: Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position. How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_- They should try to balance out the maps more. Ramps could have helped Yellow in preventing Boxer's bunker rush. | ||
SonRK
United States126 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 13 2004 04:11 Silvanel wrote: While it is certainly sad i dont see point in blaming anythink expect yellow himself for it. Common people were always saying that terran/protts/zerg is weakest race, it can't win on certian maps, or versus. I remember times when almost everyone were saying that protoss is too weak, and there when noone has expected that reach and ra poped out. The only thing that does not change is yellow complaing on the game itself and weekness of zerg. I remember him saying that in some talk with Bill Roper years ago. It his and only his foult, he is blaiming game itself for the fact he could not win, for the fact he was cheesed 3 times in row. If the terran is reaaly that powerfull, maybe he should switched to terr, and not stick to that "usless" zerg. He should blame his attitude towards the game for his loses, if he really thinks that his chances are lower, and he cant win despite better perfomce becouse of the imbalance of game itself then u got an answer. He already lost mental aspect of the game. I will put it in strong words maybe too strong but i belive this true. Yellow has loser mentality and that is his problem, nothing more. Uh did you miss the part of the post where he says he hates himself for blaming the game? Meaning he knows it isn't the game. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote: Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position. How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_- Uh? Top 3 hasn't been terran until very recently o_O Grrr-Ssamjjang-byun-hot (I wasn't around then but I think those were the top 4?) Maybe intotherain as well or was that before? I know he never did well on OGN except for his top 8 coca cola.. or top 16 or something ;o Then Boxer-Yellow-Garimto-Themarine Then Boxer-Yellow-Reach-Nada Then Boxer-Nada-Nal_ra-Kingdom Now Boxer-Nada-Oov-Reach-Yellow Yes? This might not be entirely accurate if you just look at the pgr21.com rankings but those are overall, not for the current time ;o | ||
SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
On November 13 2004 08:06 red.venom wrote: Don't know why people are being so hard on Yellow. He just lost an important series of games in front of basically the whole Starcraft community. You would be fucking depressed if it was you in his position. How is Yellow saying perhaps T is too strong wrong? It's his opinion. Interesting how the top 2-3 players in Korea have ALWAYS been Terran. My opinion is that the game is pretty well balanced EXCEPT for what Boxer did. Yellow was purely trying to balance his opening based on a mix of luck(Obvious by his commenting on positions) and what he thought was best. It's really too bad the maps are designed so that some positions are so close and some are so far, not great map design-_- in the first years the top players were not T... until terrans learned to play well and stop the most common threats my guess is zerg and protoss should adapt just as terran did once | ||
Make7UpYours
893 Posts
On November 12 2004 22:19 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote: Ah~I wanna cry. Being a professional and blaming the game for my losses..I feel so ashamed and am about to go crazy. For people who are bashing Yellow for being unprofessional for blaming the game or screaming imbalance, I think Yellow himself realizes the unprofessional nature of what he's saying. No one likes to think that their hours of practice has been for nothing (especially the way it was in the semis), and the natural response due to frustration and shame would be to think that the game must be imbalanced. When Yellow gets over the initial shock, anger, and depression he'll find a way to counter the strat. People keep saying that Terran dominates every league all the time (or the greater majority at least), but there hasn't been a Terran in the OSL final since Olympus 2003. The last ITV league was won by a zerg, and although the MSL has had all Terran champions but one, we also have to consider that two players have won 6 out of 8 MSL/KPGA leagues (Nada and Oov). | ||
[BOyGiRl]ShaRp
Korea (S)1912 Posts
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
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Make7UpYours
893 Posts
On November 13 2004 08:48 [BOyGiRl]ShaRp wrote: Read the thread before you post plz-_- It wasn't a direct response to what you posted ;;. I did read the whole thread and my post was directed to people who were either bashing Yellow for being "unprofessional" and blaming the game, and people who were agreeing with Yellow's statement on Terran imbalance (which I think was just a product of Yellow being angry and ashamed, not his true feelings) and cited Terran's "constant" dominance in leagues. | ||
ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On November 13 2004 08:19 Mr. Mystery wrote: Boxer should go to hell, god dammit As I've already said in another thread, this kid just sucks. Seriously, how many fuckin games did he win lately except for these kinds of pussy cheesy strats? I feel really sorry for Yellow. What he posted on his cafe saddens me even more. i think u should go to hell. | ||
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