I want to see Hydra go up against either Sea or Light today, since his ZvT still kinda remains as a mystery. And my Hydra bias forces me to cheer for Hentus, although seeing MBC win wouldn't be bad either. Anyway, HYDRA ENTUS HWAITING~
Hoping for Light vs. Hydra. Hydra's ZvT has been relatively untested so I want to see if he can succeed where JD failed (he already did this with his ZvP by beating Bisu).
On February 26 2011 12:57 alffla wrote: wtf is that picture
I think it shows the struggle of the modern man, the plight of such a cruel and unforgiving world, it represents the suffering of the proletariat, and the CEO alike.
Hydra opening with 12 hatch/pool while Sea starts rax first. Sea's SCV blocks Hydra's drone from scouting at the ramp for a while, getting it down to 13 hp!
Sea's 2 marines get caught by 4 lings just outside his nat, but they meet up with 3 buddies and kill a ling before backing off. Sea doing a 1 rax expand and adding a second rax, while Hydra techs up to lair.
Sea starts his wall at his nat with a SD. Hydra sneaks a couple lings around the top, but gets trapped by marines and loses them without dealing any damage. Hydra pulls his lings waiting outside back, trying to draw Sea into a trap, and then sneaks in 3 lings into the main while Sea moves out with his m&m, but firebats pop inside Sea's bsae just in time and the lings aren't able to deal any damage.
Sea pulls his m&m back and Hydra adds on 3 sunkens outside his nat. Mutas pop, but Sea already has turrets going up. Hydra starts his 3rd up at the 1' main while Sea adds on a fac after 3 rax and a couple turrets.
Mutas kill a turret and some marines, but are chased off by a large group of m&m inside Sea's main. A couple lings try to take down a turret, but it gets repaired as the marines head up to kill them. At the same time, Hydra gets mutas into Sea's main, killing a decent number of SCVs and turrets. Sea keeps trying to rebuild, but there are just too many muta.
Sea teching up to Starport and moves out with a small group of m&m which gets run over by muta just outside his nat. Hydra making a Queen's nest as his muta harass Sea's main.
Sea now pushing out with bio+tank+ves while Hydra dances around with lurker/ling/muta. Hydra catches a small group out of position, but doesn't manage to kill much before they emet up with the main force. Sea now sieging up outside Hydra's nat, but he leaves some tanks behind and Hydra gets a chance to kill about half of Sea's army from the back!
Hydra wipes out everything Sea has and attacks into Sea's nat, which is guarded by a bunker. Sea manages to kill most of Hydra's army, but 5 lurkers and a defiler survive. Sea now has nothing left to defend while swarms and lurker/ling run into his main!
Sea pulls his SCVs to his third to escape the carnage while firebats and vultures clean up. Hydra sends more to Sea's base, but everything gets killed by Sea's freshly popped reinforcements. Hydra's lings clean up a few SCVs at Sea's third!
Hydra attempts to harass, but runs a bunch of lings into firebats and mines. Sea sends out a vulture raid team to the 1' expo, while a strike force of m&m&f take out Hydra's 6' expo before dying to a swarm of lurkerling.
Hydra getting desperate and sending lurkerling right into a line of siege and mines for no reason. He starts his 4th at the 2 while chasing vultures off with lings, but isn't able to do much. He manages to kill 1 tank with about 20 lings while getting cleaned up by bio+vultures.
Sea constructing a gas at the 9 expo now while a CC builds elsewhere to fly over and take it. Hydra attempts to defuse mines with a couple lings before moving lurkers in, but vultures snipe them before anything goes down. Hydra's 4th finish and he immediately builds a sunken. Hydra switches to mass muta and snipes a tank, but a large m&m army is heading straight for the mutas!
Hydra attacks into Hydra's 4th once again with a M&M&F force and Hydra's hatch goes down. Hydra attacks Sea's 4th with his muta at the same time, while holding his ramp with swarmed lurkers and a drone on hold position, but Sea is already retaking another base up at the 10.5
Sea drops into Hydra's main just before the dropship gets killed by scourge. Defiler mound barely survives with 2-digit hp! Hydra has guardians. Sea makes a valkyrie to deal with guardians! Sea snipes Hydra's currently morphing hatch at the 6' while this is all going on. Hydra runs lings into vultures and mines! Scourge finally kill the valkyrie, and the guardians are killing everything, but m&m move back to defend Sea's nat and kill off a few guards.
Hydra throws away a bunch of lings into Sea's line of tanks at his third while attempting to attack with his guardians and scourge, but marines clean up the scourge and a wraith finishes off the remaining guardians.
Hydra finally scouts Sea's 10.5 base! Hydras come to clean up the tanks, but get irradiated and a team of marines show up to clean up the rest of the muta.
Hydra suicides a huge army of lurkerling into mines once again and his freshly morphed guardians get irradiated and have to back off immediately. Sea pushing out into the 6' base now!
Hydra plagues a group of vultures which head over to Hydra's inner 5.5 and wipe out all the drones! A muta manages to clean them up, but Sea manages to snipe the inner 1 base that was freshly constructed with a group of stimmed marines before backing off.
Meh, looks like Hydra still has a long way to go. He's got great muta control but his lategame multitasking + defiler usage is really lacking. Killer's game against Sea was far more impressive.
Sea takes the 6' base which immediately gets run over by lurkerling but Sea pulls back and wipes them out. Hydra attempts to harass again with guards but gets killed by turrets and a wraith.
Hydra's 5.5 base goes down and he ggs! Decent early game by Hydra but his late game was lacking. That's his 3rd loss in a row, and this time it wasn't a "BO ZvZ loss"!
On February 26 2011 13:34 Random_0 wrote: Sea's mech slowly but surely strangling Hydra.
Hydra is actually multi-tasking pretty well, but that one decision Hydra made to go for a base trade left him so far behind.
Don't really know if you could call that mech. He definitely intended to go for the full on transition, but after that big attack from Hydra he never stopped producing MnM.
Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
On February 26 2011 13:37 Spica wrote: Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
Snow, you better clean this up for your team.
I have no idea how you call that game a decent showing from Hydra. He looked completely lost all game. Hell his Jaedong beating muta micro early on wasn't that great despite saccing a ton of his economy to get that many mutas out.
I thought Hydra's biggest problem (and there were many) was his late game macro, but maybe he just didn't produce enough drones early game with all that aggression.
On February 26 2011 13:40 jalstar wrote: I thought Hydra's biggest problem (and there were many) was his late game macro, but maybe he just didn't produce enough drones early game with all that aggression.
Couple that with having absolutely no gamesense and knack for defense. He let Sea walk all over the map all game long and threw away his third and fourth to do skin deep damage to Sea.
It seems he might've inherited more from Effort than just being good -- guy struggled against even a slight showing of mech units.
On February 26 2011 13:40 jalstar wrote: I thought Hydra's biggest problem (and there were many) was his late game macro, but maybe he just didn't produce enough drones early game with all that aggression.
It's actually exactly the opposite, Hydra played greedily and got a TON of drones in the early-midgame. Then he decided not to expand and not to defend his expansions and play 4base zerg vs 4base terran.
Then he lost. Honestly, he got so damn far ahead, then inexplicably chose to go for some dumb allin base trade. Even after the base trade failed he woulda been fine if he had EXPANDED instead of building 50 lings and suiciding them repeatedly.
On February 26 2011 13:37 Spica wrote: Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
Snow, you better clean this up for your team.
I have no idea how you call that game a decent showing from Hydra. He looked completely lost all game. Hell his Jaedong beating muta micro early on wasn't that great despite saccing a ton of his economy to get that many mutas out.
I thought that his early game control was decent, but yes, he was lost during the late game. He wasn't that bad, imo. It could have been a lot more one-sided. He shouldn't have thrown away so many units though. He definitely needs to work on that.
Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
It's not like Hydra was ever known for his ZvT hive play. But that's not what bothered me. It was his tech decisions and execution during attacks later in the game that concerned me. I think he really though he had Sea when he had those lurkers all up in his base. He just started bumbling around after that.
On February 26 2011 13:37 Spica wrote: Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
Snow, you better clean this up for your team.
I have no idea how you call that game a decent showing from Hydra. He looked completely lost all game. Hell his Jaedong beating muta micro early on wasn't that great despite saccing a ton of his economy to get that many mutas out.
I thought that his early game control was decent, but yes, he was lost during the late game. He wasn't that bad, imo. It could have been a lot more one-sided. He shouldn't have thrown away so many units though. He definitely needs to work on that.
Hydra is by no means a bad player. That was by no means "awful" play. But it was insanely bad considering how good he is supposed to be. I'm probably being too harsh but I'm critical when good players play bad.
On February 26 2011 13:42 Musou wrote: Movie out for STX to face Sea. Does he have something prepared?
Wrong team.
Whoops, fixed.
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
Agreed. Considering Sea's TvP it's normally suicide to send anyone who isn't a top level PvTer against him unless they have a sniping build prepared.
On February 26 2011 13:37 Spica wrote: Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
Snow, you better clean this up for your team.
I have no idea how you call that game a decent showing from Hydra. He looked completely lost all game. Hell his Jaedong beating muta micro early on wasn't that great despite saccing a ton of his economy to get that many mutas out.
I thought that his early game control was decent, but yes, he was lost during the late game. He wasn't that bad, imo. It could have been a lot more one-sided. He shouldn't have thrown away so many units though. He definitely needs to work on that.
Hydra is by no means a bad player. That was by no means "awful" play. But it was insanely bad considering how good he is supposed to be. I'm probably being too harsh but I'm critical when good players play bad.
We have higher standards for so-called "elite" players. In a way, we're complimenting Hydra because we expect better of him. Three losses in a row isn't a big deal.
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
You guys are quick to forget things. Movie is 8-2 in PvT that includes wins over Fantasy and Sea
On February 26 2011 13:37 Spica wrote: Hydra's early game control was great, but he started to fall apart in the late game. Nevertheless, that was a nice showing from Hydra that he is capable of decent ZvT. If he brushes up on his late game more and pays more attention to not dying so much to mines, then I believe that we'll see a much more impressive performance from him next time! That was a great game Hydra, I'm still happy even though you lost. Beautiful tech switches. :D
Snow, you better clean this up for your team.
I have no idea how you call that game a decent showing from Hydra. He looked completely lost all game. Hell his Jaedong beating muta micro early on wasn't that great despite saccing a ton of his economy to get that many mutas out.
I thought that his early game control was decent, but yes, he was lost during the late game. He wasn't that bad, imo. It could have been a lot more one-sided. He shouldn't have thrown away so many units though. He definitely needs to work on that.
Hydra is by no means a bad player. That was by no means "awful" play. But it was insanely bad considering how good he is supposed to be. I'm probably being too harsh but I'm critical when good players play bad.
Yeah, especially because Hydra's ZvT is still quite in untested waters. Sea has his decent TvZ days, and there were moments where it looked like Hydra could have taken the game. But the little mistakes he kept on making kept on adding up, thus snowballing into a huge loss. I think that that game will provide a good learning experience for him though. Hopefully, we'll see an improved performance from him next time!
On February 26 2011 13:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It's not like Hydra was ever known for his ZvT hive play. But that's not what bothered me. It was his tech decisions and execution during attacks later in the game that concerned me. I think he really though he had Sea when he had those lurkers all up in his base. He just started bumbling around after that.
What was wrong with those tech switches? I felt the mutas/guardians did well considering they killed tanks, SCVs, an armory, shut down a base, and killed a few marines in the process.
Movie attacks into the wall with a zealot and goon, preventing the marines from killing off the zealot before a tank comes out, but a tank pops just in time to save the wall. Sea floats his completed fac out onto a ledge to make vultures. Goons almost manage to snipe the tank, but it pulls back just in time!
1 tank dies to a goon snipe, but a vulture makes it to the main and lays a few mines in the nat. A second vulture heads out to snipe a probe and scout around the map. Sea takes out another couple goons with his tank. Movie tries to snipe it, but can't get close enough. One of the mines manages to land on 3 goons, damaging them.
On February 26 2011 13:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It's not like Hydra was ever known for his ZvT hive play. But that's not what bothered me. It was his tech decisions and execution during attacks later in the game that concerned me. I think he really though he had Sea when he had those lurkers all up in his base. He just started bumbling around after that.
What was wrong with those tech switches? I felt the mutas/guardians did well considering they killed tanks, SCVs, an armory, shut down a base, and killed a few marines in the process.
Call me a greater spire hater. Guardians and mutas in the late game... I'd much rather a zerg just continue pumping defilers and lurkers. Maaaybe ultras... Yeah, the guardians lasted a while, I concede, but I'm not sure they did nearly enough damage to cover the costs.
Movie finally takes his expo with a lot of goons guarding his nat. Sea lifts his hidden fac and floats it back toward his base as he starts a CC at his nat as well. Movie scouts everything with an observer as Sea finally adds an academy for scans and walls off again, this time at his nat.
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
You guys are quick to forget things. Movie is 8-2 in PvT that includes wins over Fantasy and Sea
Yeah, on the otherhand, Sea's TvP is way better than Movie's PvT. You can cite recent records all you want, anyone who's been watching Sea's TvP for the past few months knows who the hands down favorite of this meeting is. Against Leta, Skyhigh or Snow, though? That's a lot murkier.
Sea scans and kills the observer with a couple goliaths while Movie does a bit of harass with a reaver drop. It takes a few shots from the sieged tanks but manages to kill a few SCVs and get away!
Sea kills off the zealot completing the wall-off at movie's nat and moves in with his vultures, managing to kill a few probes. Movie goes for the attack with all his goons into Sea's tanks. Sea is forced to pull his scvs, but doesn't have enough defense to hold off the attack! 2 new tanks siege up, but are sniped as well. More units stream in from Movie and Sea doesn't have enough units to hold it off!
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
You guys are quick to forget things. Movie is 8-2 in PvT that includes wins over Fantasy and Sea
Yeah, on the otherhand, Sea's TvP is way better than Movie's PvT. You can cite recent records all you want, anyone who's been watching Sea's TvP for the past few months knows who the hands down favorite of this meeting is. Against Leta, Skyhigh or Snow, though? That's a lot murkier.
This game wasn't even close. Sea's build sucked, too.
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
You guys are quick to forget things. Movie is 8-2 in PvT that includes wins over Fantasy and Sea
Yeah, on the otherhand, Sea's TvP is way better than Movie's PvT. You can cite recent records all you want, anyone who's been watching Sea's TvP for the past few months knows who the hands down favorite of this meeting is. Against Leta, Skyhigh or Snow, though? That's a lot murkier.
This game wasn't even close. Sea's build sucked, too.
Yep, I still stand by my statement, though. Movie isn't even in the top 3 of players I'd send out against Sea first on Hite, but who gets sent out is typically dependent on what they have practiced for the map, and Movie was well prepared. No shame in losing to that.
On February 26 2011 13:44 TwoToneTerran wrote: Oh wow, Movie? That is quite possibly the last A teamer from Hite I'd send against Sea, especially considering how many good vT players Hite has. Guess Movie just prepared for that map and was the best choice.
You guys are quick to forget things. Movie is 8-2 in PvT that includes wins over Fantasy and Sea
Yeah, on the otherhand, Sea's TvP is way better than Movie's PvT. You can cite recent records all you want, anyone who's been watching Sea's TvP for the past few months knows who the hands down favorite of this meeting is. Against Leta, Skyhigh or Snow, though? That's a lot murkier.
dun dun dun. Just saying sending movie out was a fine choice. In fact MBC can now save Snow to clean up.
On February 26 2011 14:18 a7choi wrote: LOL so funny how everyone thinks movie has such awesome tvp when he's in such a slump and sea didn't even play a standard game.
Movie attacks into Hyun's nat and takes it out since Hyun has nothing but muta and hydra to defend. His main is going down! Hyun decides to counter, but gets pushed off by speedlots and has to retreat. Movie now going to finish off Hyun since the sunkens haven't completed yet.
well basically, i saw the end of this game when hyun suicided like 10 mutas to 2 archon hits ;l Then his mutas got hit by an archon again at the final blow LOL
I thought hyun had that pretty easily when he was ravaging movies nat before he attacked, but he was too greedy before that and didnt prepare for the inevitable attack
Personally, I was REALLY pissed off when movie backed off with his initial Dragoon army when he saw the Spire at the freaken entrance of the Zerg player, he could've sniped it clean!
SAINT MAYNARDS INTO A HT AND LOSES ALL HIS DRONES AT HIS MAIN!!!! Man Saint dying to shuttle/zlot play Now storm/shuttle killing all the drones at Saint's 4th
On February 26 2011 14:53 Kyuukyuu wrote: Why would you ever send Saint :\
Just plain moronic decision.
MBC was travelling along nicely until the coaching staff came up with the bright idea of moving the captaincy from Saint to Jaehoon and giving Saint more playing time. He turned pro in 2003, he's nearing retirement. I blame the coaches.
1 win in 5 matches since the captaincy switch. Appalling.
On February 26 2011 14:53 Kyuukyuu wrote: Why would you ever send Saint :\
Just plain moronic decision.
MBC was travelling along nicely until the coaching staff came up with the bright idea of moving the captaincy from Saint to Jaehoon and giving Saint more playing time. He turned pro in 2003, he's nearing retirement. I blame the coaches.
On February 26 2011 14:53 Kyuukyuu wrote: Why would you ever send Saint :\
Just plain moronic decision.
MBC was travelling along nicely until the coaching staff came up with the bright idea of moving the captaincy from Saint to Jaehoon and giving Saint more playing time. He turned pro in 2003, he's nearing retirement. I blame the coaches.
I blame Coach Ha for leaving!
and Coach Lee too cz since he leaving, Light TvP is terrible.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
It's a well-known fact that Light panics in TvP. He's been getting knocked out of OSL by scrub tosses for years. That's not why MBC are getting owned by just about every team right now. Light sucked vP in rounds 1&2 but MBC were still doing well. Some internal dynamic within the team has gone very wrong since the Lunar New Year holidays.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
It's a well-known fact that Light panics in TvP. He's been getting knocked out of OSL by scrub tosses for years. That's not why MBC are getting owned by just about every team right now. He sucked vP in rounds 1&2 but MBC were still doing well. Some internal dynamic within the team has gone very wrong since the Lunar New Year holidays.
Tyson did say in his interview that the team's inner competition to do better than the other and get a lot of wins for oneself has fired up a lot when Winners' League started, so perhaps that may be a factor for their form right now? Although competition should motivate them more to do better next time.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
It's a well-known fact that Light panics in TvP. He's been getting knocked out of OSL by scrub tosses for years. That's not why MBC are getting owned by just about every team right now. He sucked vP in rounds 1&2 but MBC were still doing well. Some internal dynamic within the team has gone very wrong since the Lunar New Year holidays.
Tyson did say in his interview that the team's inner competition to do better than the other and get a lot of wins for oneself has fired up a lot when Winners' League started, so perhaps that may be a factor for their form right now? Although competition should motivate them more to do better next time.
Tyson's interview was more than a month ago though, when MBC was still playing well. I'm not sure what has happened within the team since then. 1 win in 6 matches. That's just shocking.
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
It's a well-known fact that Light panics in TvP. He's been getting knocked out of OSL by scrub tosses for years. That's not why MBC are getting owned by just about every team right now. He sucked vP in rounds 1&2 but MBC were still doing well. Some internal dynamic within the team has gone very wrong since the Lunar New Year holidays.
Tyson did say in his interview that the team's inner competition to do better than the other and get a lot of wins for oneself has fired up a lot when Winners' League started, so perhaps that may be a factor for their form right now? Although competition should motivate them more to do better next time.
Tyson's interview was more than a month ago though, when MBC was still playing well. I'm not sure what has happened within the team since then. 1 win in 6 matches. That's just shocking.
I don't know, some players can get too greedy for an all-kill, and then end up in a bad place. Who knows what's happening with MBC, but they need to get a win soon, or else they'll be knocked down even further in the rankings. Don't lose hope in them though!
On February 26 2011 16:01 Spica wrote: Lol what the crap Movie? Well, congrats to him for the all-kill I suppose. MBC, you really need to step up your game. Especially Light and his TvP.
imo MBC just kinda begged other teams to own them when Light admitted on an interview that he has a mental block against Protoss. Him having made it known simply worsened the whole situation now that other teams when fighting MBC just have to save a toss and Light will be benched for the whole game.
I thought it was kind of a well-known fact that Light's TvP compared to his other matchups isn't that great? I don't really know, though.
It may or it maybe not, but Light shouldn't have exposed his own weakness in words in the first place. It's a professional sport interview, not Alcoholic Anonymous.
It's a well-known fact that Light panics in TvP. He's been getting knocked out of OSL by scrub tosses for years. That's not why MBC are getting owned by just about every team right now. He sucked vP in rounds 1&2 but MBC were still doing well. Some internal dynamic within the team has gone very wrong since the Lunar New Year holidays.
Tyson did say in his interview that the team's inner competition to do better than the other and get a lot of wins for oneself has fired up a lot when Winners' League started, so perhaps that may be a factor for their form right now? Although competition should motivate them more to do better next time.
Tyson's interview was more than a month ago though, when MBC was still playing well. I'm not sure what has happened within the team since then. 1 win in 6 matches. That's just shocking.
it is really shocking now. they need solve all the problems as soon as possible before it getting more worse.
Light's TvP ELO is 1960, I know ELO isn't everything but it is a jawdroppingly low matchup ELO for someone who's a top 5 Terran for sure and 8th in ELO overall. It's incredible.
On February 26 2011 14:24 Random_0 wrote: So wow. Again, I must not understand Movie's playstyle at all.
Along with Hyun.
Everything you need to know about his playstyle, you can learn from Movie vs. Great on New Tornado. Who cares about being down 5 bases to 2 when you have gateway units and more gateway units.
Just watched the VODs, can't believe I missed a Jin Young Hwa all-kill! Movie vs. Hyun reminded a lot of a year ago when Movie alone took the fight to the Zerg during a very dark time. Protoss ForGG hwaiting!
On February 26 2011 13:51 Ryo wrote: Light Girl sighting.
lol didn't see her
So terrible by MBC these days, time to come back Pusan, sup with sending out Saint at Fortess when Jaehoon is really good at that map... aaaaarghhhhhhhhh. Today/yday it was really the coaches fault imo.