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Pretty good looking banners. Hoping for some exciting games! and Kal. please advance
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gogo snow!! i'll be cheering for you~
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I can't watch.
Since I must have upset Karma itself recently, here's what I'm afraid the results will be.
Ssak 2-0 Calm (likely and huge emotional attachment)
Zero 2-0 Soulkey (likely, but no attachment)
RorO 2-1 Kal (might happen, huge emotional attachment again)
Hogil 2-1 Snow (small emotional attachment towards Snow.)
It's only fitting that I go from a meeting I'll hate 8 hours later only to find these results.
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I really doubt Kal will lose, his PvZ is pretty rock solid. Debatable on Ssak vs Calm lol
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Kal lost to Modesty, who's ZvP was rather suspect prior to that...though that was a teamkill match.
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Ssak is the terran hope, it would be pretty funny if he made the semis.
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On January 15 2011 16:19 Lightwip wrote:
Ssak is the terran hope, it would be pretty funny if he made the semis.
If he beat Calm, he will play w Jae. Sweet vendetta for FlaSh friend. =)
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ssak royal roading would be pretty awesome, but I don't see it. I think Calm will take him.
I also see Soulkey getting a 2-1, but I think Kal and Snow will wrap their series up and move on.
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Hoping for Ssak, Soulkey, Kal and Snow.
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Timing is sooo sweet. Proleague ends just in time for MSL wowowowowoow
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nice looking OP with all the pictures. Good job 
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Thanks to all the streamers, and especially to my favourite - Craton!
<3 guys
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Time to watch Fanta vs Calm while waiting for this to start.
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Just watch game 4. thats all you need to take from the series
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i dont know if i should cheer for a random guy named ssak or for there to be a terran in the next round...
of all terrans...ssak?
also it would suck for calm to lose 2 leagues in a row...
i guess go calm.....+ Show Spoiler +not that his performance in the OSL made me like him at all...
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I predict 4 pool incoming for Calm
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I expect some silly sort of all-in from Calm.
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I saw the game start menu and thought, "finally, it's starting" but it turned out to be from a vod of Fanta Calm I was watching.
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Ssak the "champion killer"
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Nothing too out of the ordinary. Both expand but Calm does has some strange 3rd hatchery positioning in his main.
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Greed vs greed. The best type of play. ^__^
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On January 15 2011 17:14 Ryo wrote:
Ssak the "champion killer"
If he beats Calm and Jaedong he really will be the "champion killer" roflmao
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On January 15 2011 17:16 ArvickHero wrote:If he beats Calm and Jaedong he really will be the "champion killer" roflmao
The commentators are already calling him that lol
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On January 15 2011 17:16 Apex wrote:
Nothing too out of the ordinary.
Wasn't it 3 Hatch before pool? I'm watching GSL at the same time, so I might be mistaken though.
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On January 15 2011 17:17 Holgerius wrote:Wasn't it 3 Hatch before pool? I'm watching GSL at the same time, so I might be mistaken though.
I'm not so sure. I don't think so. I might have missed when Calm laid down the pool but I think it's not 3 hatch before pool. Could be wrong though because I keep on skipping back and forth.
Spire going up for Calm and Calm pressuring Ssak's wall with hydras. Ssak's vulture up on the ramp is harassing Calm's drones using the cliff
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when did sSak get gols? wtf
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charon boosters done, mutas run
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On January 15 2011 17:20 Neo7 wrote:
when did sSak get gols? wtf
he had 4 factories and an armory, not hard to get them lol
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Very Flash-esque build from Ssak. I like it.
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4 idle scvs near mineral line for Ssak
Calm attacking Ssak's main with mutas. Ssak ignoring and continuing to push
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Calm sees sSak's base is undefended. sSak does not give a **** and continues attack.
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lol Ssak not sure what to do with his army, finally decides to call it back to deal with the mutas.
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ssak really has no idea what he is doing...lol
getting completely owned by the mutas while killing an emty 3rd...
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Ssak why so indecisive?
Calm's mutas might actually work. They're killing the goliaths.
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wow, those mutas are owning ssak
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so many dead scvs and goliaths, jesus.
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On January 15 2011 17:21 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Well, Calm's fucked By the looks of everything I think it's the other way around.
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mass mutas, the ever so reliable counter to mech (non-fantasy)
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Calm has a ton of mutas. sSak should invest in some turrets.
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Why didn't Calm just snipe the armory? o_O
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hydras attacking the front, mutas have killed all the goliaths.
scvs dying left and right.
gg
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Ssak GGs
WTF just happened. It was Ssak having a seemingly strong push then Calm just making mutas and winning.
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Way to go Calm, now finish him off!
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gg by ssak
that was so terrible...
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I expect a gg soon.
oh nvm, he ggs
this furthermore proves that building turrets is a very useful talent toi have :D
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Ssak had a beautiful build, but fucked up so bad with his decision making.
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On January 15 2011 17:25 Apex wrote:
Ssak GGs
WTF just happened. It was Ssak having a seemingly strong push then Calm just making mutas and winning.
no turrets my friend
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I enjoy being wrong on this occasion
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On January 15 2011 17:25 Apex wrote:
Ssak GGs
WTF just happened. It was Ssak having a seemingly strong push then Calm just making mutas and winning.
Mutas > Golitaths, something I learned in my very first TvZ.
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On January 15 2011 17:24 ArvickHero wrote:
mass mutas, the ever so reliable counter to mech (non-fantasy) And non-Flash.
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Poll: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 2?No (9) 64% Yes (5) 36% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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On January 15 2011 17:27 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 17:24 ArvickHero wrote:
mass mutas, the ever so reliable counter to mech (non-fantasy) And non-Flash.
As well as non-BoxeR (the only player I've seen defeat mutas with a much lesser gol force)
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Calm should try one hatch hydralisk :D
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+1 in progress, ssak looking for a timing push, or possibly simply preparing for mutalisks.
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Placing his raxes in the nat. What a weirdo.
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interesting place to place his barracks
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On January 15 2011 17:34 5unrise wrote:
Calm should try one hatch hydralisk :D
That build is reserved only for the immortal  Shark
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Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain?
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Going for a sunken bust? Lots of medics.
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lol that ling attacked the hatch instead of the scv.
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What the fuck? Retard ling.
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that SCV is fuckin strong
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Calm in potential trouble with Ssak looking for a sunken bust.
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LOLLL wtff just happened? lings hitting each other than the scv killed the other?
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why the hell arent you attacking ssak -____-
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ssak doesn't want to attack until the lurkers come out
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Ssak backs off the potential sunken bust and goes to 11 to try to kill Calm's expansion only to be blocked by a lurker egg.
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On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain?
Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons.
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2 Ports and lifted factory! Lovely! ^__^ This could be an awesome game.
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Optical flare researched for Ssak, he uses it on one of the burrowed lurkers.
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Lol, what the shit did he do there?
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On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain? Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons.
Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty
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On January 15 2011 17:41 Holgerius wrote:
Lol, what the shit did he do there?
optical flare on the lurker.
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First vessel dies to scourge.
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Calm snipes the first vessel!
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He almost saved that vessel. I see a hive done and expecting to see defilers out very very soon.
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MnM still preventing Calm from getting a 4th gas though.
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2-2 upgrades on sak vs 1 armor only. Early ebay showing its effects.
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wow ssak really going hardcore SK Terran here
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Ssak going for pure SK Terran it seems. He even has a 3rd Starport going up to further increase vessel production.
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if calm wanted to protect his defilers, couldn't he burrow a lurker on top of a burrowed defiler?
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At this point I am pretty sure that Calm is saving for Ultras. Meanwhile Ssak is freely expanding to 8
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He should totally take the other main and switch to mass tanks and shit alá Flash now.
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On January 15 2011 17:41 5unrise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain? Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons. Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty
Actually people often build the third hatch near the ramp, which is away form the main mineral line most of the times anyways, and plant there the tech if the have killed the SCV to force an extra scan.
Oh, you meant why dont they fake 2 hatch ...
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Terran's expansion count is rising to an unacceptable level for zerg. Calm has to put on some pressure soon..
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On January 15 2011 17:48 Mortician wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 17:41 5unrise wrote:On January 15 2011 17:39 randombum wrote:On January 15 2011 17:37 5unrise wrote:
Why don't zerg build the 3rd hatch in a more obscure location of the base? Reinforcements arrive a bit slower, but there is a potential of forcing early bunkers/ turrets... any B level or above zergs want to explain? Its not the third hatch the build away, good terrans can infer based off lair/gas timings. Also, the scv will see the whole base anyways, unless you mean in another base, and that's not done for other reasons. Makes a lot of sense, esp regards to reading by the lair timing. Ty Actually people often build the third hatch near the ramp, which is away form the main mineral line most of the times anyways, and plant there the tech if the have killed the SCV to force an extra scan. Oh, you meant why dont they fake 2 hatch ...
Yeah thats what I meant
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Things not going so well for calm, 4 bases vs 5 in favor or terran. 3 port vessals with tons of vessals. Ssak has total map control and powerful upgrades on his Mnm. Going to take some good play by Calm to turn this around.
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Did Calm forget to research adrenal? It looks like it.
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On January 15 2011 17:49 randombum wrote:
Things not going so well for calm, 4 bases vs 5 in favor or terran. 3 port vessals with tons of vessals. Ssak has total map control and powerful upgrades on his Mnm. Going to take some good play by Calm to turn this around.
What? I am seeing 4 terran bases and 5 Z
nvm, didnt see the mineral only and 12 had no drones
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Now Calm shut down some expansions!
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Greater spire up for Calm
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finally, all those dirty vessels have gone down.
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Ssak just lost all his vessels
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ssak is lacking the multitask ability to continue to mine from all his bases even if there is nothing threatening them
3 bases with no scvs and no zerg units =/
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calm completely forgot about his mutas and greater spire. -_-
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If you're thinking of mass tanks then it's a good time to do it now, Ssak.
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On January 15 2011 17:56 moopie wrote:
calm completely forgot about his mutas and greater spire. -_-
Calm lost the extra base at 9 that would've funded it.
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this is over... calm gonna win any second
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calm has this game in the bag...ssak is not saturating his own bases while calm takes the rest of the bases. calms army is way bigger and probably has a million guardians that the observer isnt showing us.
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Ssak falling apart 
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lol what a boring game. Ssak plz gg.
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Here comes the Guardians.
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Holy shit that's a lot of guardians morphing.
Tanks @ 7 are going to be in deep trouble if Ssak doesn't spot it
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On January 15 2011 17:57 SkelA wrote:
this is over... calm gonna win any second
no he is not, look at bottom left, mass tanks guarding the 2 expos and calm forgot about his greater spire
and as I say this there is a flock of guardians ..
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Mass tanks about to get owned by guardians.
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So many guardians, my god.
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ssak losing his tanks at 7.5 to guards.
vessels go down to scourge.
bio unable to reach that base in time to reinforce.
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I forgive Calm for yesterday.
![[image loading]](http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3924/98336594.jpg)
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calm has the worst anti irradiate guardian spread ever but it doesnt matter as he had too many guardians. loses a bunch but still has 2 left killing the tanks,
map looks like the sauron zerg gif lol
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On January 15 2011 17:59 InFdude wrote:
Brain dead zerg fighting...srsly did Calm used to be this bad?
What? He is winning pretty easily here
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calm sending out kamehameha waves of units
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Why did sSak make so many tanks? They're getting smashed left and right
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ling city!
ssak erasing the ramp
ssak ggs.
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Mustaju will be pleased LOL
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oh yeah Clam, take your terran revenge
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nice banner! and JD wears the banner colors!
money in the bag baby!
GO JAEDONG GO!
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Sauron Zerg in full strength. Calm just pumps mass lings and forces Ssak to type out.
Calm advances 2-1!
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Beautiful play by Calm. That was amazing to watch.
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So. How about them terrans in MSL?
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On January 15 2011 18:00 Neo7 wrote:
Why did sSak make so many tanks? They're getting smashed left and right
Yeah im not sure. on one side of the map he made lots of bio, to attack/defend. on the other he made tanks, to.... sit there the entire game.
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Lol at kids fighting over the shirt... holy crap lol
I see a friendship disintegrating before my eyes
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LOL wrestling match going on over the tshirt hahahaha
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On January 15 2011 18:00 Neo7 wrote:
Why did sSak make so many tanks? They're getting smashed left and right
He watched Fantasy vs Jaedong obviously. Could have worked if he had gone for a final deathpush with that last MM ball + the tanks, although it would still be a longshot.
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lmao kids fighting over calm's shirt, hahaha
fucking melee
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On January 15 2011 18:01 bearbuddy wrote:
So. How about them terrans in MSL?
It's the maps!
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On January 15 2011 18:01 yoonyoon wrote:
Lol at kids fighting over the shirt... holy crap lol
they dont look that serious...the pulling is not that hard but it is kinda funny lol
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On January 15 2011 18:00 Neo7 wrote:
Why did sSak make so many tanks? They're getting smashed left and right
Normally terran's transition into mech/tank heavy build and take half the map. Since tanks are good vs ultras and mnm not so good. Except ssak didn't utilize them to gain map control and allowed calm to get enough resources to take out the tanks with guards.
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rofl at shirt fight, it actually looks like they're serious
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wow that was just embarrassing... 2 little kids fighting on camera for like 30 seconds
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calm raging from yesterday!
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On January 15 2011 18:02 InFdude wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:00 Lann555 wrote:On January 15 2011 17:59 InFdude wrote:
Brain dead zerg fighting...srsly did Calm used to be this bad? What? He is winning pretty easily here Easy is that last thing this is.He got contained easy and couldnt break for like 10 minutes . He saw the vessels go to the guardians with a zergling but didnt scourge before that aand in mid game he auto attacked a marine position at 6 five times with no effect.Only thing that saved him is bad bio control + stacking tanks with no upg.
Calm didn't get contained, he turtled.
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On January 15 2011 17:59 InFdude wrote:
Brain dead zerg fighting...srsly did Calm used to be this bad?
ZvT is his worst match-up.
Also, didn't realize Ssak was the last terran in this MSL.
Hoping for a 방리 final with Jaedong vs Stork
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I loved that three screens long zergling snake at the end.
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On January 15 2011 18:02 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:01 yoonyoon wrote:
Lol at kids fighting over the shirt... holy crap lol they dont look that serious...the pulling is not that hard but it is kinda funny lol
One kid nearly knocked over the other.
They stopped fighting after the commentator said that they'd get the kids another shirt
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On January 15 2011 18:01 moopie wrote:
lmao kids fighting over calm's shirt
At first I thought I read something about Fighting Spirit, then I was sad.
Is it just me, or does Roro look like he's drooling in his thumbnail?
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Poll: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3?Yes (10) 50% No (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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On January 15 2011 17:59 yoonyoon wrote:I forgive Calm for yesterday.
I don't ... If he beated Fantasy he had a pretty high chance of winning the OSL . Beating Ssak however means nothing , because he now has to face the best ZvZers and his ZvZ hasn't been loking especially good lately .
Calm has good early and middle game , but his management lategame sucks in ZvT . He should start coordinating his attacks more and not just a moving while having the larger army ...
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That game seriously looked like Flash vs Calm on FIghting spirit.
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On January 15 2011 18:04 raga4ka wrote:I don't ... If he beated Fantasy he had a pretty high chance of winning the OSL . Beating Ssak however means nothing , because he now has to face the best ZvZers and his ZvZ hasn't been loking especially good lately .
The thing about Calm is though that you never know. He can suddenly play godlike and knock out Jaedong. Or play like a tool and lose to a protoss :p
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On January 15 2011 18:02 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:00 Neo7 wrote:
Why did sSak make so many tanks? They're getting smashed left and right Normally terran's transition into mech/tank heavy build and take half the map. Since tanks are good vs ultras and mnm not so good. Except ssak didn't utilize them to gain map control and allowed calm to get enough resources to take out the tanks with guards.
Plus the transition itself was a bit late. He overexpanded once when he was supposed to start making factories. Very cool game besides that.
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On January 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:Poll: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3?Yes (10) 50% No (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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vote no! it wasnt a good game....just long...........
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On January 15 2011 18:05 StylishVODs wrote:
That game seriously looked like Flash vs Calm on FIghting spirit.
Ya, it reminded me quite a lot of that. Not nearly as well played by Ssak though.
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If Kal makes it through, Calm will face Hydra.
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Calm interview
- happy blah blah
- + Show Spoiler +after yesterday, didn't want to lose again to a Terran
- wants to go against Zerg
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On January 15 2011 18:05 StylishVODs wrote:
That game seriously looked like Flash vs Calm on FIghting spirit.
Except ssak did nothing about calm's expansions.
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On January 15 2011 18:09 prototype. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:05 StylishVODs wrote:
That game seriously looked like Flash vs Calm on FIghting spirit. Except ssak did nothing about calm's expansions.
ssak played so much worse...if calm got adrenaline glands it would have been over sooooo much sooner...
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Hydra vs Classic was such a sweet game. ^__^
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On January 15 2011 18:10 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:09 prototype. wrote:On January 15 2011 18:05 StylishVODs wrote:
That game seriously looked like Flash vs Calm on FIghting spirit. Except ssak did nothing about calm's expansions. ssak played so much worse...if calm got adrenaline glands it would have been over sooooo much sooner...
He didnt have it? :o
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On January 15 2011 18:12 Holgerius wrote:
Hydra vs Classic was such a sweet game. ^__^
Yeah compared to them Calm and Ssak looked pretty bad .
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On January 15 2011 18:06 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:Poll: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3?Yes (10) 50% No (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
vote no! it wasnt a good game....just long...........
Agree, I'd vote 'if you have the time' if the option was there though. It was decent enough I guess. We really need more options
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On January 15 2011 18:15 Lann555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:06 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:Poll: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3?Yes (10) 50% No (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Recommend Calm vs Ssak Game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
vote no! it wasnt a good game....just long........... Agree, I'd vote 'if you have the time' if the option was there though. It was decent enough I guess. We really need more options
I prefer 2 unless it's a non-standard game for some reason.
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Hive tech, hive tech, hive tech! Please?
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On January 15 2011 18:19 Holgerius wrote:
Hive tech, hive tech, hive tech! Please?
I predict a short BO win/loss. Then we get to the really interesting matches. Snow/Hogil last time was a blast
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probably neo_soulkey will employ hive zvz he learned from great?
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Soulkey is winning the bo battle o_O
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Soulkey fended off zero and now has an expansion. Zero is screwd =/
Soulkey moving out with lings and zero retreating... both have spire although zero slightly ahead
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Soulkey attacks with zerglings while throwing down a spore . Soulkey has 2 bases zero still have 1
edit: soulkey now has 2 spores in main, and 1 at natural protected by lings.
soulkey makes 2 scourge and zero has 3 mutas...i dont see how zero can win
edit 2: zero tries putting on aggression while expanding...not working so well as I think zero has been losing lings.
manages to kill some drones at expo but soulkey threatens a counter and forces zero to retreat a little
2 scourge kill a muta
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Both Zero and Soulkey look so weird, peculiar and cute.
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Spores is a good start if we want Hive tech stuff, isn't it?
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soulkey applying newly learned zvz here LOL
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Soulkey attacks zero's new expansion and soulkey wins air battle
edit: zero ggs
completely BO win from soulkey, series tied at 1-1
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Crap. Not even close to what I wanted.
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I hope Soulkey wins after this interview by zero.
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fakkit zero. defend well. take this to hive ultra
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Come on Zero, win this please... I don't want a ZvZ for Jaedong in both the Ro8 and Ro4.
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they just look the exact same... woongjin... such a strong bond between the players.
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Spores for 12pool expand vs 9pool speed is completely standard, isn't it, guys? =/
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both scouting in the wrong direction, both makes 12 drones
edit: both throw down gas and pool. i think its mirror buiild o_O
their pictures are identical except on zeros zero is colored and on soulkey soulkeys is colored. funny
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Look at them. They are so adorable. :D
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complete mirror builds. same lair timing, same overlord scouting and same expo
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gah the only difference is zero(red) expanding to the back natural on the top, and soulkey expanding to the front natural (brown)
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Both spires complete. 3 mutas for each player.
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same gas expo timing also...this is pretty funny...
soulkey starts threateing zeros overlord first and they each have 2 scourge
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zero attacks...all lings die and both microing like a beast
edit: zero wins the micro battle with more scourge!
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zero is very lucky that he won, after trashtalking soulkey.
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Zero gains the advantage over the air battle.
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sk losing the air battle. Lings in sk's nat and main
gg
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zero sends 4 lings while maintaining air superiority.
edit: zero dominated, soulkey ggs
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GG ZERO WINS
SO CLOSE BUT THE SMALLEST ADVANTAGE IN ZVZ....
wow.
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The cuter of the two won. I'm happy.
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zero's trashy interview incoming
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On January 15 2011 18:38 Holgerius wrote:
The cuter of the two won. I'm happy.
they are both so cute oh my godddd so similar too. woongjin is just the pretty team.
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On January 15 2011 18:38 Holgerius wrote:
The cuter of the two won. I'm happy.
=)
soulkeys anti scourge micro wasn't as good
been a zero fan foreverrrrrr so cute and queen ♥
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On January 15 2011 18:38 astalkulo wrote:
zero's trashy interview incoming
hahah i'm sure he won't be too big of a dick.
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Poll: Recommend Zero vs Soulkey Game 3?What happened to hivetech? (9) 82% No (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Zero vs Soulkey Game 3? (Vote): What happened to hivetech?
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really fuck hogil!
of all people to push JD out. fuck
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GG. zero moves on.
I hate teamkills. ._.
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both players trying to smile, zero puts on leather jacket and starts drinking from a can
both players so cute!
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This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses
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Never really got the K Pop thing that's become so prevalent on TL. If you wanted to watch pretty girls make weird noises you could just watch porn.
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Soulkey lulz
Says he can't accept this loss and that luck played a big part
They were going to make a bet but Soulkey declined =]
삭발내기 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Zero wanted the loser to shave his hair off lollllllllllllllllllllll
Soulkey hopes that Zero makes his way up..and loses LOL
저를 이겼으니까 더 높은곳까지 올라가서 떨어졌음 좋겠어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
LOL Zero dissing Soulkey as well
Says he wants to play a real Zerg in MSL
Says he sucks at ZvZ because he practiced with Soulkey
The two are insanely cute together<3
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I hope snow plays mass DT vs hogil!
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soulkey hijacks the interview and they are both smiling and looking at each other its pretty funny lol even though i have no idea what they are saying ^^
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On January 15 2011 18:43 One Page Memory wrote:
This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses
Yea, really. If both protoss lose today, we will have 7 zergs and 1 protoss in Ro8.
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Aw, missed the previous games. Happy to see Calm advance, though. I guess I'll forgive him for yesterday.
Now it's Kal's time to advance .
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On January 15 2011 18:46 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:43 One Page Memory wrote:
This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses Yea, really. If both protoss lose today, we will have 7 zergs and 1 protoss in Ro8.
which isnt that bad if you consider that the last protoss is stork and it would make the whole thing more epic if stork gets a silver to jaedong
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On January 15 2011 18:47 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:46 Hier wrote:On January 15 2011 18:43 One Page Memory wrote:
This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses Yea, really. If both protoss lose today, we will have 7 zergs and 1 protoss in Ro8. which isnt that bad if you consider that the last protoss is stork and it would make the whole thing more epic if stork gets a silver to jaedong
But ZvZ...
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On January 15 2011 18:47 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:46 Hier wrote:On January 15 2011 18:43 One Page Memory wrote:
This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses Yea, really. If both protoss lose today, we will have 7 zergs and 1 protoss in Ro8. which isnt that bad if you consider that the last protoss is stork and it would make the whole thing more epic if stork gets a silver to jaedong
You're assuming Stork makes it to the final. If Kal wins, Stork face Zero next.
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i expect both kal and snow to win
zero vs. stork should be very very very epic ^^ 2 of my favorite players xD
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On January 15 2011 18:47 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:47 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 18:46 Hier wrote:On January 15 2011 18:43 One Page Memory wrote:
This MSL is turning into zerg fest, hope Kal progresses Yea, really. If both protoss lose today, we will have 7 zergs and 1 protoss in Ro8. which isnt that bad if you consider that the last protoss is stork and it would make the whole thing more epic if stork gets a silver to jaedong But ZvZ...
I agree... more epic, but don't wanna sit through so many ZvZ's. Not a mirror matchup fan
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On January 15 2011 18:44 yoonyoon wrote:Soulkey lulz Says he can't accept this loss and that luck played a big part They were going to make a bet but Soulkey declined =] Soulkey hopes that Zero makes his way up..and loses LOL 좀 높이 가서 떨어졌으면 좋겠어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ LOL Zero dissing Soulkey as well Says he wants to play a real Zerg in MSL Says he sucks at ZvZ because he practiced with Soulkey The two are insanely cute together<3
Zero reminds me of Empreror Palpatine in this picture.
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6 consecutive hours of BW and counting! Let's hope the last sets end 2-1 as well
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On January 15 2011 18:39 TheNessman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:38 Holgerius wrote:
The cuter of the two won. I'm happy. they are both so cute oh my godddd so similar too. woongjin is just the pretty team. I see what you have done there.
btw I'm very happy for Calm, I thought he would fall apart after the disaster that was yesterday.
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Zero FTW. Time to gain gold Zero! (If Protoss is not capable of, LOL)
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Go Kal and Snow, there are way too many Zs left.
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Go Kal! If only so we can see Zero vs Stork
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On January 15 2011 19:01 Kyuukyuu wrote:Go Kal! If only so we can see Zero vs Stork
Indeed
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Haha, Roro hiding the drone at nat...
And Kal goes Nexus before Forge.
>_>
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On January 15 2011 18:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Never really got the K Pop thing that's become so prevalent on TL. If you wanted to watch pretty girls make weird noises you could just watch porn.
Never really got people's need to diss on other people's preference either.
Nvm i shouldnt be replying to something like this.. If i wanted to have a conversation with Americans i might as well be chatting with pigs at a sty.
User was temp banned for this post.
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kal not getting any cannons, straight up gateway core.
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Fenrax
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no cannons, nice way to punish dronewhoring
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On January 15 2011 19:04 moopie wrote:
kal not getting any cannons, straight up gateway core.
very interesting.. kal puts a forge and stargate in his main
edit: and a citadel, looks like its going to be fastish sair dt?
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Roro gets an extremely quick 3rd gas seeing Kal's opening, while Kal begins to maynard his probes to his nat.
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On January 15 2011 19:04 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 18:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Never really got the K Pop thing that's become so prevalent on TL. If you wanted to watch pretty girls make weird noises you could just watch porn. Never really got people's need to diss on other people's preference either. Nvm i shouldnt be replying to something like this.. If i wanted to have a conversation with Americans i might as well be chatting with pigs at a sty.
Never really got people's need to diss on other people's nationalities.
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roro throws down 3 more hatcheries...sair running around looking for ols while spire is incomplete
edit: 2 sairs kill an overlord, kal moves out with zealots and forces 2 sunkens.
kal makes cannnons in his main to defend against muta. zealots attacking natural and kills some drones
edit: ALL THE DRONES and runs into the main with remaining 3 zealots killing 2 more drones and 2 hydras
meanwhile sairs dominate his 3rd
dts coming
kals gonna win for sure
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Kal's speedlots kill all the drones in Roro's nat and head directly into his main!
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wow kal killing all the drones in the nat, now running into the main with the last 3.
3 more drones dead, as well as 2 hydras.
sairs killing overlrods meanwhile, 1 dies to scourge.
dts heading to 10.5
this is rape.
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Much stuff killed at Roro's main and nat while Corsairs continue to massacre overlords! And DTs are heading to Roro's 3rd gas!
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RApe.
The gateway core before forge was used by stork before I think ?
Happy for kal, no 7 zergs^^
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Kal should be able to completely steamroll Roro now.
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spawning scourge kill some sairs but dts kill both sunks and is now taking down the hatchery. all overlords dead and roros reinforcements are useless
hydras dying to dts.... even with overlord non of the dts die
both in red
kal is doing so well taking down that hatchery! insane build
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kal must have borrowed those dts from reach.
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kal sends 6 zealots to the 3rd to kill the second hatchery and evolution chamber...roro seems completely dominated...
down to 2 base vs 2 base
kal throws down 5 cannons becfause he realizes the only way to lose is a bust
edit: 4 cannons
edit 2: makes high templars and still massing sair and zealots
roro trying to take 3rd againt but kal moves out to apply some pressure. kal also has obs... dont see how kal can lose...
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When has this recent ZvP trend started to produce no units at all and then just die to the first 5 Zealots?
Imo that strategy has a big flaw. You die to the first 5 Zealots!
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This is not even close...
GG is expected soon.
Is Roro the Sea of Zerg? Forever stays in the lower stages of individual leagues.
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Protoss players are doing so well against Zergs lately.
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Roro continues to be completely hapless in individual leagues, lol
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noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
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Roro amassing an airforce, will he be able to achieve something?
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kal takes 3rd base. roro trying to attack with mutas and scourge while kal attacks with zealots. kal loses all cannons and scourge! but kal is attacking into the main
dragoon scourge making mutas retreat while kal is taking down the 3rd!
edit: cal remakes cannons and roro is forced to take the mineral base closer to his natural. kal applies pressure with goons zealots obs and high templar..
GG
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Glhf playing 2 base Zerg vs 3 base Toss.
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damn look at this push.
kal is such a boss.
gg
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I liked that build from Kal
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Roro kills all the sairs but gets his Mutas trapped in Kal's main in the process... And his 3rd gas gets raped again by a DT
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Absolute rape. One Zerg less, woohoo!
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Poll: Recommend Kal vs Roro Game 2?Yes (10) 53% No (9) 47% 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Kal vs Roro Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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kal's speedlots did so much damage, gg
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GW Kal. Lolo sent home ^^
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people are so ridiculously happy to get free tshirts
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On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.
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You sexy bastard, goojila. Always in my heart.
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On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.
super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple
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Kal raped greed with risk straight up. I don't quite understand an underwhelming PvZ record on Benzene though, like 9-16? Zergs are supposed to have a hard time on this map due to the normal 3rd gas position that is very hard to build a simcity to protect.
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On January 15 2011 19:18 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though. Ro8 MU, if I didn't get my math wrong Top half of the bracket Jaedong vs. HoGiL/  Snow winner Calm vs HydraBottom half of the bracket Kal vs greatStork vs ZerO Thanks!
Calm v. Hydra and Stork v. Zero look like they're going to be sick.
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I hope Snow just wins because I'm pretty tired right now.
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On January 15 2011 19:18 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though.
So, because Stork has used the build that means it cannot be risky?
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man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never?
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+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +[05:18] <~Cratonz> so its calm vs jaedong
[05:18] <~Cratonz> kal vs great
[05:18] <~Cratonz> zero vs stork
[05:18] <~Cratonz> and
[05:18] <@Kimoleon> Hydra vs winner Snow/Hogil
[05:18] <~Cratonz> yes
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On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple
It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first.
kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there.
This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy.
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Kal interview
asked what he thinks about great
says he's the opponent he feels the most confident about in Ro8
if he goes to the finals, he wants to go against Protoss
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wai fai
OH LEH!
gotta love korean commercials, seriously :D
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On January 15 2011 19:20 Ideas wrote:
man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never?
If we argue that Flash plays his own race, then this has roughly been the situation for three years or so.
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On January 15 2011 19:20 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first. kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there. This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy.
Well thats the point of risky builds, you cant use them blindly :D
Okay okay you can,but then its a coinflip
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''he wants to against protoss in final''
Theres only 1 protoss that fufills that criteria...
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On January 15 2011 19:23 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:20 Ideas wrote:
man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never? If we argue that Flash plays his own race, then this has roughly been the situation for three years or so.
except last MSL where everyone but jaedong was a terran in the semifinals
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On January 15 2011 19:24 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:20 moopie wrote:On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first. kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there. This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy. Well thats the point of risky builds, you cant use them blindly :D Okay okay you can,but then its a coinflip
but by scouting first, its no longer risky because you know it will work for sure (since your opponent has no lings to attack you during that timing). risky would have been doing it without scouting (or incomplete scouting if opponent denies scouting).
risky implies a risk (hey what do you know). scouting before eliminates that risk.
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On January 15 2011 19:20 Craton wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +[05:18] <~Cratonz> so its calm vs jaedong
[05:18] <~Cratonz> kal vs great
[05:18] <~Cratonz> zero vs stork
[05:18] <~Cratonz> and
[05:18] <@Kimoleon> Hydra vs winner Snow/Hogil
[05:18] <~Cratonz> yes
how does that work out? I thought it was set up so highest kespa ranked played vs last kespa ranked, 2nd highest vs 2nd lowest, etc. ?
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all good for kal, except that he always wilts vs sclass!
GO JAEDONG GO!
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On January 15 2011 19:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
''he wants to against protoss in final''
Theres only 1 protoss that fufills that criteria...
Well, Snow could win the next match.
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On January 15 2011 19:30 yoonyoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
''he wants to against protoss in final''
Theres only 1 protoss that fufills that criteria... Well, Snow could win the next match.
but then he would face jaedong in ro8
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On January 15 2011 19:20 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:18 baubo wrote:On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?
Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate. super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though. So, because Stork has used the build that means it cannot be risky?
Touche... Although it seemed pretty safe when I saw Stork used it, and then proceeded to get like gazillion ovies with his first corsairs and won the game right there. So it didn't seem risky here.
When you have super-long rush distances, a lot of safe builds can look risky.
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yea lets all hope snow wins so that there is 1 less Bo5 ZvZ to watch this season lol.
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On January 15 2011 19:20 Craton wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +[05:18] <~Cratonz> so its calm vs jaedong
[05:18] <~Cratonz> kal vs great
[05:18] <~Cratonz> zero vs stork
[05:18] <~Cratonz> and
[05:18] <@Kimoleon> Hydra vs winner Snow/Hogil
[05:18] <~Cratonz> yes
No. The 8 players that advance from the Round of 16 are paired based on their KeSPA Rankings: The highest ranked player faces the eighth, the second highest faces the seventh etc.
Jae #2, Calm #7.
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On January 15 2011 19:31 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:30 yoonyoon wrote:On January 15 2011 19:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
''he wants to against protoss in final''
Theres only 1 protoss that fufills that criteria... Well, Snow could win the next match. but then he would face jaedong in ro8
Snow could wi.... 'kay, nevermind.
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On January 15 2011 19:31 Ideas wrote:
yea lets all hope snow wins so that there is 1 less Bo5 ZvZ to watch this season lol.
The sad thing is Great is not even playing one of those, and is probably gonna get raped by Kal.
But we will probably have another one in semifinals.
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JD will go against the winner of this match
Calm v Hydra
Zero v Stork
Great v Kal
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On January 15 2011 19:33 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:31 Ideas wrote:
yea lets all hope snow wins so that there is 1 less Bo5 ZvZ to watch this season lol. The sad thing is Great is not even playing one of those, and is probably gonna get raped by Kal. But we will probably have another one in finals.
I think great stands a better chance vs kal than he should. kal is a lot weaker in a Bo5 than he should be and for some reason I feel great would be do better in a Bo5 than a Bo1 or Bo3. It will definitely be the most interesting of the Ro8 matchups (zero vs stork very close 2nd).
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Hogil must have endured tremendous hours of serious brainstorming before eventually coming up with the moniker "hite zerg".
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On January 15 2011 19:34 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:33 corumjhaelen wrote:On January 15 2011 19:31 Ideas wrote:
yea lets all hope snow wins so that there is 1 less Bo5 ZvZ to watch this season lol. The sad thing is Great is not even playing one of those, and is probably gonna get raped by Kal. But we will probably have another one in finals. I think great stands a better chance vs kal than he should. kal is a lot weaker in a Bo5 than he should be and for some reason I feel great would be do better in a Bo5 than a Bo1 or Bo3. It will definitely be the most interesting of the Ro8 matchups (zero vs stork very close 2nd).
great always seems to bring out his a-game against bisu so maybe he can show some of that vs kal
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
Lets make a bold prediction:
HoGil makes nothing but Drones for 10 minutes, Snow makes Zealots and attacks Hogils third, Hogil panics and produces all Zerglings, loses 15 Drones and 40 Zerglings trying to beat these 6 Zealots, then dies.
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On January 15 2011 19:35 mnesthes wrote:
Hogil must have endured tremendous hours of serious brainstorming before eventually coming up with the moniker "hite zerg".
It's brilliant, isn't it?
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On January 15 2011 19:35 mnesthes wrote:
Hogil must have endured tremendous hours of serious brainstorming before eventually coming up with the moniker "hite zerg".
you don't even know man
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On January 15 2011 19:35 mnesthes wrote:
Hogil must have endured tremendous hours of serious brainstorming before eventually coming up with the moniker "hite zerg".
:D
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I almost fell asleep then I somehow returned right when this began.
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On January 15 2011 19:35 mnesthes wrote:
Hogil must have endured tremendous hours of serious brainstorming before eventually coming up with the moniker "hite zerg".
Nice post.
Everything's standard so far, stargate going up.
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On January 15 2011 19:36 Fenrax wrote:
Lets make a bold prediction:
HoGil makes nothing but Drones for 10 minutes, Snow makes Zealots and attacks Hogils third, Hogil panics and produces all Zerglings, loses 15 Drones and 40 Zerglings trying to beat these 6 Zealots, then dies.
Or Snow build only 1 cannon, HoGil play hydra push, Snow dies.
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Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it
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Snow buying himself time with the DTs to put up some defense
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On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it
opening mutas in ZvP is pretty risky tho lol
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On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it He is probably busy trying to make the 5 hatch no units build in ZvP work, like he did to the 3 hatch before pool build in ZvT.
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On January 15 2011 19:44 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it He is probably busy trying to make the 5 hatch no units build in ZvP work, like he did to the 3 hatch before pool build in ZvT.
works if the Protoss he's facing isnt Bisu/Stork
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On January 15 2011 19:46 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:44 mnesthes wrote:On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it He is probably busy trying to make the 5 hatch no units build in ZvP work, like he did to the 3 hatch before pool build in ZvT. works if the Protoss he's facing isnt Bisu/Stork Yeah, like the 3h before pool build in ZvT works if the Terran he's facing isnt Flash.
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On January 15 2011 19:47 mnesthes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:46 ArvickHero wrote:On January 15 2011 19:44 mnesthes wrote:On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it He is probably busy trying to make the 5 hatch no units build in ZvP work, like he did to the 3 hatch before pool build in ZvT. works if the Protoss he's facing isnt Bisu/Stork Yeah, like the 3h before pool build in ZvT works if the Terran he's facing isnt Flash.
you mean bunker rush/early rax.. 3 Hatch before pool works vs Flash also lol
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Hey, storm drop just killed a handful of drones in Hogil's nat.
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omg these storms are so sick. wtf
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and storms just raped all of hogil's army
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poor snow has to play Jaedong rofl
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I barely realized this was a teamkill lol
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Poll: Recommend Snow vs Hogil?Yes (13) 81% No (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Snow vs Hogil? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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GG~
So Ro8 will be
JD v Snow
Calm v Hydra
Zero v Stork
Great v Kal
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And I think Creep is pretty useful in making Zerg practically immune to manner CC and manner Nexs.
edit: ah, he ggs anyway.
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That's pretty decent actually.
SuperArc must be so happy now.
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stork vs zero should be entertaining! go zero!
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Stork vs Zero has potential to be frickin sick
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Very good chance of getting an all zerg Ro4 oooohhh gooodddd.
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Aside from a questionable way to take the 3rd and a like 2 missed storms in the game, I haven't noted much mistakes by Snow. Great sair babysitting, good patience, good timing, good macro during fights.
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Snow ignored the 2 guys standing in the back and gave the shirts to the two girls in the front ...
those guys were like "fuck this shit im leaving" lol
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Im glad jaedong doesnt have to zvz his way to the finals...this should make it so that theres a higher chance of jaedong winning
although jaedong getting revenge over hogil isnt toooo bad
zero vs. stork should be epic
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On January 15 2011 19:33 yoonyoon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +JD will go against the winner of this match Calm v Hydra Zero v Stork Great v Kal
Mmm, so they reseeded then? Couldn't remember if they did or not.
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On January 15 2011 19:53 Womwomwom wrote:
Very good chance of getting an all zerg Ro4 oooohhh gooodddd.
Well the chance of 2P 2Z is equal or greater imo.
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On January 15 2011 19:48 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 19:47 mnesthes wrote:On January 15 2011 19:46 ArvickHero wrote:On January 15 2011 19:44 mnesthes wrote:On January 15 2011 19:42 Yxes2211 wrote:
Man I love muta play in ZvP... wish JD would go back to it He is probably busy trying to make the 5 hatch no units build in ZvP work, like he did to the 3 hatch before pool build in ZvT. works if the Protoss he's facing isnt Bisu/Stork Yeah, like the 3h before pool build in ZvT works if the Terran he's facing isnt Flash. 3 Hatch before pool works vs Flash also lol For every pool before hatch build, there's 1 Rax FE.
For everything else, there's 14 CC.
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On January 15 2011 15:39 mustaju wrote:
I can't watch.
Since I must have upset Karma itself recently, here's what I'm afraid the results will be.
Ssak 2-0 Calm (likely and huge emotional attachment)
Zero 2-0 Soulkey (likely, but no attachment)
RorO 2-1 Kal (might happen, huge emotional attachment again)
Hogil 2-1 Snow (small emotional attachment towards Snow.)
It's only fitting that I go from a meeting I'll hate 8 hours later only to find these results.
Wow you only got 1/4 (half)correct.
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Snow interview
Says happy but sad that it was a team kill
Says he loses a lot of vZ in practice
Says he likes 난전 matches.. uh not sure what it is in English
Stutters when asked to predict the results vJD =]
but says 3:2 and that he's not going to think about losing
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^ I don't know Koreans at all but I'll take a wild guess and say that Snow probably means he likes matches with huge/messy battles and lots of dead stuff
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Did they say when Ro8 started?
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mustaju must be happy lol
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On January 15 2011 20:02 yoonyoon wrote:
Snow interview
Says happy but sad that it was a team kill
Says he loses a lot of vZ in practice
Says he likes 난전 matches.. uh not sure what it is in English
Stutters when asked to predict the results vJD =]
but says 3:2 and that he's not going to think about losing
난전 can be translated as chaotic, hectic.
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No Terrans in the RO8 omfg.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 15 2011 19:53 Soulforged wrote:
Aside from a questionable way to take the 3rd and a like 2 missed storms in the game, I haven't noted much mistakes by Snow. Great sair babysitting, good patience, good timing, good macro during fights.
Pretty solid play, but in the replay after the game, it showed him banking like 1800/1000 towards the end of the game, at the attack near the bridge. That's pretty bad.
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On January 15 2011 20:09 Yxes2211 wrote:
Did they say when Ro8 started?
Apparently the 20th, although I'm not completely sure.
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Ssak is good for his rookie season and he is a legit 2nd Terran on SKT T1. He can pull off huge upsets like one he did against Flash.
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Oh ssak you disappoint me a little but it's ok since you are rookie.
Good luck in SWL
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Fun fact, every player who contributed to knocking out Flash (Hyuk SSak Kal and Classic), lost in the next round of that league.
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no terrans anymore...but the 3 zvp look fine (especially stork vs. zero). and even the zvz might be worth a watch - calm and hydra are good at zvz. (calm always has been good, hydra's on a streak)
predictions:
jaedong > snow (3-1, as long as jd builds units)
calm > hydra (3-2, close one)
stork > zero (3-1)
kal < great (we need an upset!)
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Has there ever not been a terran in the MSL/OSL ro8?
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On January 15 2011 21:43 kamikami wrote:
Oh ssak you disappoint me a little but it's ok since you are rookie.
Good luck in SWL
lol seeing how beesuit has been tearing up SWL lately ... i don't think even fantasy will have some luck of getting into that booth, let alone ssak
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On January 15 2011 22:20 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 21:43 kamikami wrote:
Oh ssak you disappoint me a little but it's ok since you are rookie.
Good luck in SWL lol seeing how beesuit has been tearing up SWL lately ... i don't think even fantasy will have some luck of getting into that booth, let alone ssak
undtill they face KT again :>
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Holy F-ing groups! No Terran!
Jaedong - Snow
Calm - Hydra
Stork - ZerO
Kal - great
The good news is Stork is 4 - 1 vs. Zero. The bad news is their last game was in 2009. Very exciting Ro8 games - even more so because it's Bo5 format!
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no terran in the RO8? O_o
Has this ever happened before in any star league?
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This MSL will most likely go to Protoss, either Stork or Kal cuz Zergs really only have Jaedong who isn't in his best shape but still can make finals.
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I don't think anyone just has the ability to wrestle a Bo5 from Jaedong in a Flashless MSL.
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So.. if Jaedong, Kal, Stork win, we will have Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Kal or Stork vs Kal ?
Does anyone know ?
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On January 15 2011 23:03 kamikami wrote:
So.. if Jaedong, Kal, Stork win, we will have Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Kal or Stork vs Kal ?
Does anyone know ?
JD is in the other side of the bracket. if Kal and Stork win, they face each other in the semifinals. if JD makes it to the finals he'll meet the winner of that.
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On January 15 2011 22:49 Hazard wrote:
This MSL will most likely go to Protoss, either Stork or Kal cuz Zergs really only have Jaedong who isn't in his best shape but still can make finals.
Only?
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On January 15 2011 23:22 yoonyoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 22:49 Hazard wrote:
This MSL will most likely go to Protoss, either Stork or Kal cuz Zergs really only have Jaedong who isn't in his best shape but still can make finals. Only? Yeah, only has to beat him 3 games.
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Well Jaedong was only beaten by Flash in the BO5 recently but I find his current game a bit shacky.
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I'm kind of bummed that Zero and Stork have to play each other now. If Zero wins, he'll likely have to play a ZvZ final which is not as fun and he'll probably lose it lol. Either way, I really hope the winner of that game takes the MSL.
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On January 16 2011 00:23 nbaker wrote:
I'm kind of bummed that Zero and Stork have to play each other now. If Zero wins, he'll likely have to play a ZvZ final which is not as fun and he'll probably lose it lol. Either way, I really hope the winner of that game takes the MSL.
ZerO vs Stork, we are bound to see some lategame Reaver/Archon vs Defiler plays. Their style is so alike!
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Stork definitely has a chance to beat JD in a BO5 as long as he builds 2 cannons.
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So where did all the guys whining about Terran imba go?
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ah, no terran makes me happy
lots of PvZ and likely PvP!
gogo snow
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And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue...
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Looks like another JD MSL!
edit: I mean MSL!
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On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue...
I know what you mean. It's not like terrans made up of 3/4 of any recent MSL. And I'm pretty sure there haven't been any terrans participating in any of 2010's SL finals.
Protoss domination is just sickening. Did you know Bisu and Stork both won SLs 2 years ago?
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Schedule for pdpop MSL Round of 8 from http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=114242&db=news&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
◆ Round of 8th Day 1 - January 20th at 5:00 PM
Group A Set 1: Jaedong(Z) < Dante’s Peak > Snow(P)
Group B Set 2: Calm(Z) < Dante’s Peak > Hydra(Z)
Group C Set 3: Zero(Z) < Circuit Breakers > Stork(P)
Group D Set 4: Great(Z) < Benzene > Kal(P)
◆ Round of 8 Day 2 - January 27th at 5:00 PM
Group A: Jaedong(Z) vs Snow(P)
2 Set: < Circuit Breakers >
3 Set: < Triathlon >
4 Set: < Benzene >
5 Set: < Dante’s Peak >
Group C: Zero(Z) vs Stork(P)
2 Set: < Benzene >
3 Set: < Dante’s Peak >
4 Set: < Triathlon >
5 Set: < Circuit Breakers >
◆Round of 8 Day 3 - January 29th at 12:00
Group B: Calm(Z) vs Hydra(Z)
2 Set: < Triathlon >
3 Set: < Circuit Breakers >
4 Set: < Benzene >
5 Set: < Dante’s Peak >
Group D: Great(Z) vs Kal(P)
2 Set: < Triathlon >
3 Set: < Dante’s Peak >
4 Set: < Circuit Breakers >
5 Set: < Benzene >
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Do you guys know which maps were thumbed down by each player?
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Estonia4504 Posts
On January 15 2011 20:09 ArvickHero wrote:
mustaju must be happy lol
I'm not really happy, but things are definitely looking better.
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Why does Calm always win 2-1 after losing the first game.. w/e hes gonna get crushed in the Ro8.
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too bad bisu isnt here, it would be nice to see his pvz compared to the other pvz in ro8
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cool cool. calm won! and kal
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On January 16 2011 04:52 Kenpachi wrote:
Why does Calm always win 2-1 after losing the first game.. w/e hes gonna get crushed in the Ro8.
He lost 3-1 after losing the first game in EVER OSL semi finals.
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Snow has played Jaedong once before and it was a total domination from Jaedong. Snow teched and moved out with 6zealots, 1 dragoon and two HTs - Jaedong had 16 hydras running toward his natural. A battle happened in the middle, but Snow never had a chance. When Jaedong started ripping his natural apart he gg'd. Hopefully Snow can perform better in the Bo3, but it's looking grim.
VOD
+ Show Spoiler +
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Jaedong vs Snow is going to be a worse rape than Jaedong vs Stats was last fall. And I say that as a fan of Snow, not Jaedong.
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Yeah, as long as Jaedong uses safe builds (and makes units...), it will most likely be a 3-0 just like his last 2 Bo5's against protoss in the MSL. After all he hasn't lost to a non-dragon in 18 or so months and 50 or so games.
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United States10158 Posts
Jaedong>Snow
Calm>Hydra
Stork>Zero
Kal>Great
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There are no Terrans in the Ro8, this is ridiculous. XD
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Zero too greedy these days (and in poor form), Stork will take it.
Snow will take one game off Jaedong, then get 5 pooled, 2 hatch muta'ed, and 3 hatch hydra'ed.
Great miiight beat Kal, I'm just hoping Kal wins.
Calm vs Hydra is like the battle for second best zerg in the game. Please win, Calm.
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On January 16 2011 10:24 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Zero too greedy these days (and in poor form), Stork will take it.
Snow will take one game off Jaedong, then get 5 pooled, 2 hatch muta'ed, and 3 hatch hydra'ed.
Great miiight beat Kal, I'm just hoping Kal wins.
Calm vs Hydra is like the battle for second best zerg in the game. Please win, Calm.
Aren't Neo_G_Bonjwa and Zero better contenders than both of them?
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On January 16 2011 03:26 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... I know what you mean. It's not like terrans made up of 3/4 of any recent MSL. And I'm pretty sure there haven't been any terrans participating in any of 2010's SL finals. Protoss domination is just sickening. Did you know Bisu and Stork both won SLs 2 years ago?
If I replace the word terran in your post with the word Flash and it starts to make sense
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Russian Federation327 Posts
Seems like PvZ is not a problem for tosses anymore.
So sad with mass terran slump (bad maps or what?)
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Canada2480 Posts
On January 16 2011 11:26 FakePlasticLove wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 10:24 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Zero too greedy these days (and in poor form), Stork will take it.
Snow will take one game off Jaedong, then get 5 pooled, 2 hatch muta'ed, and 3 hatch hydra'ed.
Great miiight beat Kal, I'm just hoping Kal wins.
Calm vs Hydra is like the battle for second best zerg in the game. Please win, Calm. Aren't Neo_G_Bonjwa and Zero better contenders than both of them?
defenitely
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On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue...
Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did..
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Yess, I hate Terran with a passion and am so glad they have 0% chance of winning
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On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did..
Technically, in minds of woe-is-terran fans, Flash and Fantasy don't count as terrans. So he is correct in saying that terrans have not done anything for ages.
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On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did..
Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive.
If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering?
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On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering?
Well, 8 out of the top 15 PL players are Terran, 4 of the top 15 ELO, TvZ is 52.5% and PvT is 50.5% for PL also. There where 3 Terrans in the Ro8 of OSL and now 1 in the final. The MSL is the only place you can really say Terran is suffering, and it has pretty shitty maps for Terran, but last season when the maps where good for them, 5 out of 8 in Ro8 and 3 out of 4 in Ro4 where Terran.
Terran isn't doing the best right now but come on.
EDIT: Noticed that your original post said individual leagues. so my first part is irrelevant I guess, but I still stand by my point.
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On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering?
Take out the best players of a race and you can always say they're suffering. You know who the 7th best protoss was during the 6 dragons era? + Show Spoiler +
Also some of the dragons had sub-50% MUs. Yes they all had 60%-ish overall winrate, but that's their golden age. Terran isn't that much worse right now.
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On January 17 2011 02:59 Cpadolf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? Well, 8 out of the top 15 PL players are Terran, 4 of the top 15 ELO, TvZ is 52.5% and PvT is 50.5% for PL also. There where 3 Terrans in the Ro8 of OSL and now 1 in the final. The MSL is the only place you can really say Terran is suffering, and it has pretty shitty maps for Terran, but last season when the maps where good for them, 5 out of 8 in Ro8 and 3 out of 4 in Ro4 where Terran. Terran isn't doing the best right now but come on. EDIT: Noticed that your original post said individual leagues. so my first part is irrelevant I guess, but I still stand by my point.
Also to note, 4 of the top 15 is disproportionately against terrans.
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I don't get this, how come the first games of the series are effectively written-off? Their results are displayed, and they have no review. Aren't they important too?
Ok, in terms of writing Battle Reports the first game is give, so it does have value in that sense, but still, we're probably missing out on some great stuff if we're not told to watch any of the 1st BO3 games
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On January 17 2011 04:07 bITt.mAN wrote:
I don't get this, how come the first games of the series are effectively written-off? Their results are displayed, and they have no review. Aren't they important too?
Ok, in terms of writing Battle Reports the first game is give, so it does have value in that sense, but still, we're probably missing out on some great stuff if we're not told to watch any of the 1st BO3 games
Those games were played at an earlier date. Going into these games, 1 game of each series was already decided and that was to provide the information to the thread so people wouldn't go "But he only won one game, why is the series over?"
They have their own threads on the forum from when they were broadcasted.
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On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering?
So when there were 3 out of 4 terrans in the last MSL round of 4, Flash was the only one who wasn't suffering? Come on man, the top players out of every race always do disproportionately better than the other players. You can't just discount their results when it suits you.
Also, In terms of results, protoss is actually the race that has suffered the most for the last few years- no titles in 2010 or 2009 in the individual leagues. Spare a thought for them.
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Snow really knows his PvZ timings, that was an awesome game to watch.
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I had a dream a few months ago that Snow used a carrier/corsair build to beat Jaedong. Didn't that actually happen though? Like with Bisu or Stork in 2008?
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On January 18 2011 14:46 jalstar wrote:
I had a dream a few months ago that Snow used a carrier/corsair build to beat Jaedong. Didn't that actually happen though? Like with Bisu or Stork in 2008?
Bisu beat Jaedong with corsair reaver->carrier in 08 on Andromeda.
But it would be more interesting if Snow didn't win with carriers, but rather with archons. Lots and lots of archons.
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On January 18 2011 14:55 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 14:46 jalstar wrote:
I had a dream a few months ago that Snow used a carrier/corsair build to beat Jaedong. Didn't that actually happen though? Like with Bisu or Stork in 2008? Bisu beat Jaedong with corsair reaver->carrier in 08 on Andromeda. But it would be more interesting if Snow didn't win with carriers, but rather with archons. Lots and lots of archons.
Like Free?
On January 17 2011 03:44 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering? Take out the best players of a race and you can always say they're suffering. You know who the 7th best protoss was during the 6 dragons era? + Show Spoiler +
6 Dragons doesnt equal 1 God. Even if you took out Bork you still had Kal, Jangbi, Free, Best who were making finals/semifinals constantly. Aside from the last MSL, Flash has been the only Terran to even reach a semifinal, that's not good for the Terran race.
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On January 18 2011 15:04 FakePlasticLove wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 14:55 Lightwip wrote:On January 18 2011 14:46 jalstar wrote:
I had a dream a few months ago that Snow used a carrier/corsair build to beat Jaedong. Didn't that actually happen though? Like with Bisu or Stork in 2008? Bisu beat Jaedong with corsair reaver->carrier in 08 on Andromeda. But it would be more interesting if Snow didn't win with carriers, but rather with archons. Lots and lots of archons. Like Free?
Yes, like free. That game was pretty cool.
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On January 17 2011 02:36 L0thar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 01:55 tomatriedes wrote:On January 16 2011 02:39 L0thar wrote:
And the suffering of Terran race in individual leagues continue... Continue(s)? Didn't a terran win 3 out of the 4 individual league finals in 2010? Oh yes, he did.. Terran race is suffering. A certain terran isnť. That's not mutually exclusive. If the whole world was dying in poverty but one man could have everything he wanted, wouldn't you say that the human race is suffering?
If we look at the big picture (the entire history of BW), Terrans have dominated for almost a decade while Zerg less, and Protoss a lot less
So they finally have a season recently that they don't do so hot. Is it that much of a problem? Terran race is not even close to suffering if you look at how dominant they were overall
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