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Why aint the MSL Liquibet updated?
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Protoss fans better be rooting for Bisu to win tonight. If Stork takes this he will get knocked out by some random Zerg before the finals. We've seen it time and again, no matter how strong a player looks, once it gets to the final rounds the pressure is too much and they crumble (Flash being a huge exception, but that's just a testament to the absolute stranglehold he's had on pro BW in the last year). Stork will focus on the OSL and carrying his team in PL and one of the better Zergs will knock him out for sure.
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On January 13 2011 14:11 Deekin[ wrote:
Why aint the MSL Liquibet updated?
The games aren't over...??
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On January 13 2011 11:25 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 11:08 seRapH wrote:On January 13 2011 01:55 HitoriTomoyo wrote:On January 12 2011 12:49 baubo wrote:
Actually, neither has Bisu in starleagues. The only difference is that Stork has played Jaedong in BoX much more recently, including the last OSL and that other OSL that featured the Tears of the Protoss.
So in that sense, I'm more excited to see a Bisu v Jaedong in the finals. But as a Stork fan, I still want to see Stork win. What would've REALLY been awesome is seeing Jaedong play Stork/Bisu in one semi-finals, and perhaps the other in the finals.
But alas, Bisu and Stork met in the Ro16. Why couldn't they have done the whole Kespa ranking stuff here rather than Ro8? Isn't that mostly because Bisu's vZ is primarily untested in a Bo5 series? I could be wrong though, I can only recall Bo5s with Bisu mostly involving vT and vP. While I personally don't think Stork has the highest chance of winning against Jaedong in the finals that doesn't necessarily mean that he won't put up one heck of a fight/win outright; it's just that when one objectively compares his vZ to Bisu's it's apparent that Bisu would have a higher chance at taking out Jaedong in the finals. Though admittingly, it would be cool to finally see another player besides FlaSh accomplish a dual final feat. ?? Bisu 3-0'd kwanro He 3-1'd GoRush And how could you forget 3-0'ing Savior? well kwanro and gorush aren't exactly great tests of skill for bo5 pvz
It's hard to believe, but GoRush and Kwanro were actually good at the time of those Bo5s.
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Poll says 50-50. Bisu is already behind 1-0 and stork was much more solid in this mu. Even if bisu were better player in PvP than Stork then Stork still has an edge here. Sadly all the bisu fanboys ruin the poll.
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On January 13 2011 14:16 Crawler wrote:
Poll says 50-50. Bisu is already behind 1-0 and stork was much more solid in this mu. Even if bisu were better player in PvP than Stork then Stork still has an edge here. Sadly all the bisu fanboys ruin the poll.
That is unfortunately true for almost ANY poll with the option "Bisu" in it. In defence of the poll, however, at least it isn't 80% in the favor of Bisu like a lot of other, even less fortunate polls, and Bisu has some mean PvP when he wants to.
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Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday 
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On January 13 2011 14:28 Jragon wrote:Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday
If Jaedong Bisu is epic, but stork jaedong is one sided, wouldn't we want Stork [name of player other than Jaedong] so we could have a higher level final?
Also, Jaedong performs far better in series than he does in single matches (check jaedong's vs light)
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On January 13 2011 14:28 Jragon wrote:Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday
Do not be so quick to forget this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/50384_Bisu_vs_Jaedong/vod
Jaedong plays differently in Bo5. Sometimes, when he's at a disadvantage, he cheeses hard to win.
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On January 13 2011 14:32 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 14:28 Jragon wrote:Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday Do not be so quick to forget this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/50384_Bisu_vs_Jaedong/vodJaedong plays differently in Bo5. Sometimes, when he's at a disadvantage, he cheeses hard to win.
So you are making a case for a JD-Bisu final being onesided too? I quite agree, actually, not only because Jaedong seems to have lost a lot of his power (and I don't like it one bit), but also because Zerg as a whole seem to have a lot of problems with both Bisu and Stork. Wouldn't it be ironic to have the Bisu/Stork JD finals everyone seems to wish for so bad, only for them to end up ridiculously lopsided like most Flash-JD finals so far?
Even though it's "swarm season", I'm not too hopeful for the near future of top Zerg.
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On January 13 2011 14:49 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 14:32 Lightwip wrote:On January 13 2011 14:28 Jragon wrote:Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday Do not be so quick to forget this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/50384_Bisu_vs_Jaedong/vodJaedong plays differently in Bo5. Sometimes, when he's at a disadvantage, he cheeses hard to win. So you are making a case for a JD-Bisu final being onesided too? I quite agree, actually, not only because Jaedong seems to have lost a lot of his power (and I don't like it one bit), but also because Zerg as a whole seem to have a lot of problems with both Bisu and Stork. Wouldn't it be ironic to have the Bisu/Stork JD finals everyone seems to wish for so bad, only for them to end up ridiculously lopsided like most Flash-JD finals so far? Even though it's "swarm season", I'm not too hopeful for the near future of top Zerg.
gotta agree, although there's more zergs, zergs have been getting owned by bisu/stork these day and even jaedong looks helpless against those two.
remember the last osl jd vs stork? although jd won, it easily could have gone either way and stork lost because he was too stubborn to build an extra cannon. -_-;
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oh man i wish i could stay up.. Hydra fighting!
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i believe
![[image loading]](http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee133/norja7/midasdork.jpg)
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Honestly, I want Bisu to win. I seriously do.
But realistically, I think Stork has this. He's just a more brilliant player and Bisu is just general good at mechanics. That means Bisu plays mostly standard and Stork can use that to his advantage.
In game 1, Stork went aggressive and took a faster expansion and it worked because he knew Bisu would go standard. 
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On January 13 2011 15:03 Ido wrote:i believe
FUCK. YEAH.
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With Stork's newfound PvZ gosuness, 11-2 since his loss to Jaedong in the OSL, I think he and Bisu have similar chances at going through a zerg-infested MSL. That said, I think a potential Stork v Jaedong will likely be less entertaining than Bisu v Jaedong.
I say this because Stork is a strategic player. When his shit works, he makes the other guy looks like a total noob. When it doesn't, he can look outclassed. Bisu and Jaedong are both players with amazing control and multi-tasking, which I feel results in close and more entertaining games.
It's for the same Stork v Flash > Bisu v Flash. Because Flash v Stork would be probably the two most brilliant minds of modern SC, and the strategic macro play on both sides can be epic.
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On January 13 2011 15:03 Ido wrote:i believe
i think you're looking for
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On January 13 2011 14:28 Jragon wrote:Like most it seems, gunning for a Jaedong-Bisu finals of epic proportions. Stork-Jaedong could be a little one-sided going from their WL match yesterday
Jaedong has never won against Stork in PL (0-5), but has won both of their Bo5's and 2/3 of their Bo3's so I wouldn't count him out in case they do meet in the finals.
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