On December 16 2010 19:56 kuroshiroi wrote: Based on previous results, only free has a chance against JD. This should be easy but I won't count my chickens something something.
Based on CURRENT results, Free has the LEAST chance against Jaedong.
On December 16 2010 19:56 kuroshiroi wrote: Based on previous results, only free has a chance against JD. This should be easy but I won't count my chickens something something.
Based on CURRENT results, Free has the LEAST chance against Jaedong.
On December 16 2010 19:56 hacklebeast wrote: I started working on group B, but I'm glad I dont have to here was the banner I was going to use: Flash isnt in this group, or any group! lol
On December 16 2010 19:56 hacklebeast wrote: I started working on group B, but I'm glad I dont have to here was the banner I was going to use: Flash isnt in this group, or any group! lol
On December 16 2010 19:56 hacklebeast wrote: I started working on group B, but I'm glad I dont have to here was the banner I was going to use: Flash isnt in this group, or any group! lol
should be changed into "not in this tournament"
Don't post spoilers outside the original LR thread.
I think Snow doesn't stand much of a chance today. Stats and Free will probably have a great PvP at one point. I hope Free can win and beat Jaedong as well. Maybe it's time for him to step it up and win a championship
On December 16 2010 20:04 prototype. wrote: i think this banner is better suited for the remaining matches now
I think a Bisu would work better.
Why not Fantasy or say... Shine?
Because that looks like a disciple work.
Still, some objectivity would be nice. Bisu making it out of that group will be really difficult. Even if he makes it past Shine, there's still Kal, and a potential for BvT.
On December 16 2010 20:04 prototype. wrote: i think this banner is better suited for the remaining matches now
I think a Bisu would work better.
Why not Fantasy or say... Shine?
Because that looks like a disciple work.
Still, some objectivity would be nice. Bisu making it out of that group will be really difficult. Even if he makes it past Shine, there's still Kal, and a potential for BvT.
If Bisu beats Shine, he'll make it out of the group. Really is terrible at the moment.
On December 16 2010 20:04 prototype. wrote: i think this banner is better suited for the remaining matches now
I think a Bisu would work better.
Why not Fantasy or say... Shine?
Because that looks like a disciple work.
Still, some objectivity would be nice. Bisu making it out of that group will be really difficult. Even if he makes it past Shine, there's still Kal, and a potential for BvT.
Objectivity is overrated But yeah, based on current form, and Shine's history with Bisu, I think Kal and Shine are favoured to qualify from that group. I hope Bisu proves me wrong tho.
On December 16 2010 20:04 prototype. wrote: i think this banner is better suited for the remaining matches now
I think a Bisu would work better.
Why not Fantasy or say... Shine?
Because that looks like a disciple work.
Still, some objectivity would be nice. Bisu making it out of that group will be really difficult. Even if he makes it past Shine, there's still Kal, and a potential for BvT.
Objectivity is overrated But yeah, based on current form, and Shine's history with Bisu, I think Kal and Shine are favoured to qualify from that group. I hope Bisu proves me wrong tho.
If you say so. Even though I like Bisu the least in that group, I hope he makes it through (but not at the cost of Kal, sorry)
Jaedong is going to take this group with 2-0. It's an ideal position for him: three rather mid-level Protoss players and his ZvP, not to mention recent trend in this matchup. Talking about the rest of players, I think free is in rather bad shape, so it will go down to Snow and Stats. After a minute of hesitation, I expect Stats to recover from the initial game and bounce back with 2-1.
On December 16 2010 20:04 prototype. wrote: i think this banner is better suited for the remaining matches now
I think a Bisu would work better.
Why not Fantasy or say... Shine?
Because that looks like a disciple work.
Still, some objectivity would be nice. Bisu making it out of that group will be really difficult. Even if he makes it past Shine, there's still Kal, and a potential for BvT.
Objectivity is overrated But yeah, based on current form, and Shine's history with Bisu, I think Kal and Shine are favoured to qualify from that group. I hope Bisu proves me wrong tho.
If you say so. Even though I like Bisu the least in that group, I hope he makes it through (but not at the cost of Kal, sorry)
Preaching to the converted on that one - Kal and Bisu would be my preference as well.
JD played greedy, Stats should've tried to push in with his speedlots and do damage. Every pro should know that JD walks The Line, and thus is very possible to punish him. Stats had a window of opportunity when JD practically had nothing but a handful of lings (with no carapace upgrade vs +1 attack) and 3 sunkens (his natural).
He should've hit then.
Once he's in the lategame, it's a huge SWUuuuuuuuMP of units just demolishing with several multiprone attacks. Game was lost early for Stats.
On December 16 2010 20:50 Lann555 wrote: ZvP on hive-tech is so insanely silly. Game was looking evenish and then just snowballs out of control in about 90 seconds
It looked sort of even because Jaedong was staying low on units, saving up for mass ultra, just keeping Stats busy with base defense and some harass.
At least that's what it looked like, but I'm no expert so I could be wrong
only real way stats could have won this was breaking the sunkens with that push when he had map control all those goons and zealots but jaedong was prepared with so many hatcheries he had like 7 when stats was at his entrance meaning after he loses half his army to sunkens and has no zealots jaedong macro would have destroyed him
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
On December 16 2010 20:59 SkelA wrote: Guys I got a problem with the stream and every other livestreams. All are the same... I just get a picture and in the middle the circle is loading -_-
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
no dude, flash wanted to bm ssak for a reason. you're not making sense. you just want to argue about this, I won't talk about this anymore. clearly the scout was not bm act made for flash haha.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
clearly the scout was not bm act made for flash haha.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
The scout wasn't for BM.
then please tell me what it is then?
A mistake?
Taking down the ovies?
The commentators were saying it might have been a mistake...but yeah, I think he made it to take down overlords~
On Triathlon Snow is 1-0 in PvP, while Free never played a televised match in this map. Snow is 5-6 in PvPs (televised matches in the last six months), Free is 8-4.
Snow has a chance because Free's form hasn't been good. Canceling a nexus in his OSL game? But if Snow doesn't beat Free, I don't think he can advance.
On December 16 2010 21:06 Ryo wrote: Snow has a chance because Free's form hasn't been good. Canceling a nexus in his OSL game? But if Snow doesn't beat Free, I don't think he can advance.
Free's PvZ has been very shaky lately. But his PvP? pretty solid as always.
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 20:51 Doraemon wrote: was stats trying to bm for flash?
what do you mean? flash was in a different group dude, and JD and Flash are good friends.
no shit they're good friends.
flash didn't manage to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. get it?
why the hell would flash want to bm jaedong? you're not making any sense.
flash wanted to proxy CC in Ssak's base becouse Ssak was acting "over"confident. why would Flash want to bm Jaedong that is his friend and playing in a different group. Dude think a bit.
like i said. i was interpreted wrong, maybe i just didn't elaborate.
all i was trying to say was flash didn't get to bm today, so stats bm'ed for him. that's all, nothing to do with jaedong. simply the act of bm.
clearly the scout was not bm act made for flash haha.
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
You said it yourself. So what if he killed off that muta flock? His templars were safe from muta sniping anymore. There was no reason why he wanted even more air control by building a stargate unit that was totally worthless against jaedong's huge ground army. He knew he let jaedong just tech up unscathed and hence he built a scout just for the sake that he knew no matter how serious he played he wasn't going to win. Again, stop trying to think so much from that one scout
On December 16 2010 20:59 letian wrote: Let it snow let it snow let it snow!
i'm running free yeah!!!
On December 16 2010 20:59 purpose wrote:
On December 16 2010 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 16 2010 20:54 purpose wrote: when JD played this game he was giggling to himself, I am gonna win the MSL, I am gonna win the MSL!!
This pvz actually looked alot like my pvz games!! Iam so baller!!
I've had enough of that word for the weekend....please don't abuse it.
I am not abusing it, I am just a part of the tl.net community!!
by abuse I meant overuse.
what I'm trying to say is,use a word other than baller.....please.
Come on man, stick with the group and dont be such a baller!!
To be frank i think purposely rubbing it in even after others have expressed discomfort towards it makes you either an uncivilized moron or an IQ-of-5 retard.. Please, for the last time, stop trying to annoy other people.
On December 16 2010 20:59 letian wrote: Let it snow let it snow let it snow!
i'm running free yeah!!!
On December 16 2010 20:59 purpose wrote:
On December 16 2010 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 16 2010 20:54 purpose wrote: when JD played this game he was giggling to himself, I am gonna win the MSL, I am gonna win the MSL!!
This pvz actually looked alot like my pvz games!! Iam so baller!!
I've had enough of that word for the weekend....please don't abuse it.
I am not abusing it, I am just a part of the tl.net community!!
by abuse I meant overuse.
what I'm trying to say is,use a word other than baller.....please.
Come on man, stick with the group and dont be such a baller!!
To be frank i think purposely rubbing it in even after others have expressed discomfort towards it makes you either an uncivilized moron or an IQ-of-5 retard.. Please, for the last time, stop trying to annoy other people.
Its the most frequently used word on tl.net so why cant I use it? Its a word, not like a bad mouthing someone.
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:07 Invictus wrote: Stats probably did that cause he thought he already lost the game already, so he just made a scout for fun. Stop thinking so much into that one scout
Stats had air control after killing JD's muta flock
So he built an air-to-ground unit
Try killing that with Ultra/Ling/Defiler. Here's a secret - you can't
On December 16 2010 21:33 4Servy wrote: gogo snow eat the dong!
Hmmm bad english or perfect english?
Either way, I'm glad anytime snow can get a W. He has been my favorite protoss to watch for a while now and I hope to see him carry further and further in tournaments.
On December 16 2010 21:22 konadora wrote: PIMP BATTERY!!
Most underrated and underused building in SC...
nah it's just that it's rarely needed. but everyone knows it's an awesome building in some cases. but it's not needed in every game
Protoss never upgrades shields either, which I find odd as well. Anyway, back to Snow kicking ass.
?? what are you talking about :D
Basically, P tends to not care about extending shield life, at all. It's like they forget about them or something. Late game PvZ, your entire army is plagued, 0 upgrades to shields? Makes no sense to me. Late game anything, no shield upgrades.
this is where i really don't like just using polls for recommended games, that should be a huge yes, but the first game was also given a yes despite being a bad one sided roflstomping made only amusing because of a scout. need more op actually commenting on the games rather than just reverting to tl yes/no/maybe groupthink
free somehow would have had a chance vs jaedong since he did beat him once 2-1 in a bo3 but snow is 0% to win vs jaedong free will have his shot for a rematch if he managed to win vs stats if not than stats win
On December 16 2010 21:22 konadora wrote: PIMP BATTERY!!
Most underrated and underused building in SC...
nah it's just that it's rarely needed. but everyone knows it's an awesome building in some cases. but it's not needed in every game
Protoss never upgrades shields either, which I find odd as well. Anyway, back to Snow kicking ass.
?? what are you talking about :D
Basically, P tends to not care about extending shield life, at all. It's like they forget about them or something. Late game PvZ, your entire army is plagued, 0 upgrades to shields? Makes no sense to me. Late game anything, no shield upgrades.
Don't mind me, just pretend theorycrafting
Actually they do, except it's not very cost-effective and it's only upgraded after weapons and armor are already both fully upgraded.
On December 16 2010 21:22 konadora wrote: PIMP BATTERY!!
Most underrated and underused building in SC...
nah it's just that it's rarely needed. but everyone knows it's an awesome building in some cases. but it's not needed in every game
Protoss never upgrades shields either, which I find odd as well. Anyway, back to Snow kicking ass.
?? what are you talking about :D
Basically, P tends to not care about extending shield life, at all. It's like they forget about them or something. Late game PvZ, your entire army is plagued, 0 upgrades to shields? Makes no sense to me. Late game anything, no shield upgrades.
Don't mind me, just pretend theorycrafting
Actually they do, except it's not very cost-effective and it's only upgraded after weapons and armor are already both fully upgraded.
So basically never then? Not many games last that long.
On December 16 2010 21:40 konadora wrote: LOLOL this guy is hilarious
translate! haha. i wish i understood korean =[
I don't understand either and it's still hilarious. I guess I fall somewhere between Konadora and Doraemon. I should change my handle to Nobita I guess.
On December 16 2010 21:44 Lann555 wrote: What is the point of even playing the game? Snow should just GG out and save his energy for facing Free in the final match
Lol that was pathetic by Snow. I think just about every pro-level zerg would have rolled him in that game. Jaedong just made some hydra ---> A-move ---> win
Fedors stream is by far the best atm. 1a2a3afou is fucking hilarious and when fedor isn't streaming him, there will be hot korean girls from afreeca. Props to fedor.
I just hope that fedor will show us MSL when the commercial breaks end instead of holding it hostage in exchange for comments. Sorry if this is inappropriate but I just find the situation ridiculous.
On December 16 2010 22:08 fold wrote: I just hope that fedor will show us MSL when the commercial breaks end instead of holding it hostage in exchange for comments. Sorry if this is inappropriate but I just find the situation ridiculous.
On December 16 2010 22:08 fold wrote: I just hope that fedor will show us MSL when the commercial breaks end instead of holding it hostage in exchange for comments. Sorry if this is inappropriate but I just find the situation ridiculous.
Shouldn't we be happy that he streams it at all?
Besides, he changes it back in time for the matches, doesn't he?
On December 16 2010 22:08 fold wrote: I just hope that fedor will show us MSL when the commercial breaks end instead of holding it hostage in exchange for comments. Sorry if this is inappropriate but I just find the situation ridiculous.
Shouldn't we be happy that he streams it at all?
Besides, he changes it back in time for the matches, doesn't he?
That guy on iccup, the korean guy that beat you up 1000 times in some ridiculous fashion then manner gg'd and made you feel like shit. This is him, this is what he looks like.
On December 16 2010 22:14 hifriend wrote: That guy on iccup, the korean guy that beat you up 1000 times in some ridiculous fashion then manner gg'd and made you feel like shit. This is him, this is what he looks like.
On December 16 2010 22:08 fold wrote: I just hope that fedor will show us MSL when the commercial breaks end instead of holding it hostage in exchange for comments. Sorry if this is inappropriate but I just find the situation ridiculous.
Shouldn't we be happy that he streams it at all?
Besides, he changes it back in time for the matches, doesn't he?
I'm pretty sure the game has started, commercial breaks are usually 5/7 kpop videos long (on Craton's stream) and of course I appreciate him streaming but the comments he made in his stream about keeping BW alive and then not showing MSL don't quite tally. One of the main reasons people are still interested in BW is because of proleague if you don't show proleague how is that helping in keeping it alive?
On December 16 2010 22:26 POWEROUTAGE wrote: Terrible showing from my favourite KT players today.
Plain horrible.
eh?
so?I just don't want to hear shit like "OMG SLUMP!!!"
OMG SLUMP!!! :D
u better back up ur statement if ur gonna trash talk lol.
flash is 5-5 in his last 10
OMFG SLUMP
good days and bad days.
Blindrawr you're just being trolled because you were so touchy to an innocuous comment by an obviously grieving fan. Take a chill pill dude. KT will go on a winstreak and Flash will win the OSL.
come on stork! flash is out! ive lost hope on bisu .. YOUR THE MAN! DO IT .. YOU CAN RAPE JD! FOR THE MSL GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD!
i thought i was on the wrong thread
How does this have anything to do with this thread? You realize that you're in the wrong thread but you keep your comments about players not even in this group, clearly a T1 fan trying to rub salt in the wound.
@Topic: Sad to see Stats go, altough it was pretty much expected with Jaedong's amazing ZvP and Snow's great PvP.
No surprises in this group really. JD getting through 2-0 was likely, his ZvP is ridiculous. As for the other person getting through I thought Free was the most likely but any of the Ps could have gotten through, all three are pretty good.
More than anything, I'm surprised that Stats didn't advance moreso than free (snow is still a sniper in my eyes so unless he starts assimilating Dragon-esque play he's not going to advance past the Ro16); he might be somewhat unstable right now but he's just so solid in every match-up that isn't against Jaedong.
Well, let's see where this goes. Hopefully Jaedong wins the MSL and breaks NaDa's record for the most winning records.
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Jaedong < Dante’s Peak > 
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