Friday, November 19th 2010, 13:00 KST, Channel MBCGame 2010 PDPop MBCGame Survivor Tournament Season 3: Group 6 Group 6 Matches Set 1 :
RorO <
Aztec >
Lomo Set 2 :
Horang2 <
Aztec >
s2 Winners : <
Circuit Breaker >
Losers : <
Circuit Breaker >
Final : <
Triathlon >
Predictions: + Show Spoiler + Roro's ever so unpredictable...but Lomo's lost his last 10 games in a row, and not to outstanding opponents. Plus this map's pretty hard TvZ. Roro takes set 1. To put it generously, Horang2's kind of bad against zerg. He most recently lost a series to the ever-so-amazing Hyun. On the other hand, s2's vP is his best, and >60%. Although he hasn't seen PL time in the last week or two, he should still definitely be able to take down Horang2. So if everything goes as predicted, Roro will face off against s2 in set 3. Neither player is particularly outstanding at the mirror matchup, so it's hard to say who will advance. Still, SKT Zergs cut their teeth first on the mirror matchup, so perhaps s2 will take it, advancing 2-0. Lomo vs Horang2 on Circuit Breaker. While Horang2 is no PvT master, Lomo is a master at all three of his matchups. Master at racking up loss after loss, that is. Horang2 takes the losers match. Horang2 vs Roro in the final set. Another battle of mediocre matchups. But, the map favors zerg a lot - Roro to advance 2-1. Or, if Roro takes the winners match and s2 ends up here, s2 is easily favored over Horang2, especially on Triathlon.
+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + Both players exhibiting rather poor control without bringing any interesting tactics. But the loser's control was even worse.
Poll: Recommend game 1? Hell no! (6)
55%
Yes (3)
27%
No (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 1?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): Hell no!
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] + Nothing spectacular. (Well, the crowd seems to disagree with me, though.)
Poll: Recommend game 2? Yes (9)
69%
No (4)
31%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 2?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No
+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Game] + A decent game. Watch if you have time.
Poll: Recommend game 3? No (12)
80%
Yes (3)
20%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 3?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No
+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Game] + Both players play equally terribly, resulting in a very drawn-out, "exciting", and back-and-forth game.
Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
+ Show Spoiler [Final Game] + A risky build doesn't pay off, partly due to bad control. Half-decent, and not too long.
Poll: Recommend game 5? No (12)
92%
Yes (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 5?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No
How to Watch :
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Craton (Craton swoops in to save the day. Thanks!)
Formatting partially copied from Amnesia, who partially copied from mustaju, who probably partially copied it from someone else...
roro and s2 should win their games
Oh yay, the group I get to watch is the most mediocre and boring -_-
Zona you should also credit mustaju, as I got the results/recommended games from him ^^
GoGoGo Zerg time !!!! s2 win easy and more easy RorO destroy they. SK Hwaiting!!!!
Hrm...It might be hard to keep the OP updated if no one restreams. But today's group will likely contribute to the further overpopulation of zergs in the MSL proper.
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YEEE HA BROOD WAR Holy crap everybody so far has been an SKT fan wat jk sup Kyuukyuu Also YEE HA CRATON
Christmas ads starting! Thanks Craton for saving the day!
There Roro sits in the booth his hands on his lap...doesn't even need to warm up to face Lomo.
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Lomo 2port wraith please for the lulzors~
Wow no respect - they aren't giving Lomo much screen time compared to Roro. Now I made the predictions in the OP with my rational mind... but the inner psychic in me feels that Lomo might surprise us.
craton saves the day as usual how come its hard for people to stream MBC games? just curius!
Aztec, graveyard of Terrans. Roro the purple zerg at 4. Lomo, orange terran at 8.
OL headed the wrong way. First depot to push scvs...confident OL first for Roro
12hatch, Roro takes his nat still no rax from Lomo? CC first?
Wow, gutsy - Lomo opening with CC, and a drone arrives to see it and spit
Drone scores an scv kill! now working on a 2nd
red scv vs red drone - but the drone leaving? lomo already starting 2nd rax, roro already starting lair, with just a pair of lings lomo only now scouting?
4 lings now, lings hold the ramp and deny the very late scv scout academy and gas starting for lomo nobody else watching/posting?
3rd rax for lomo - scv comes to see the spire at the nat - why build it there? roro taking his 3rd at 3, as well as his nat gas bunker being added at lomo's nat
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I'm watching but not intently enough to post ><
3rd rax starts for lomo caucasian guy/asian gf watching and amused as camera focuses on them ebay starts for lomo, 4th rax too
On November 20 2010 13:13 Zona wrote: nobody else watching/posting?
Too laggy for me since I can't really afford more than 700 kb/s. Seems like I have to call it a night/morning :/
4th hatch in roro's main starting as a bunch of mutas head out a few turrets await them only 6 mutas?
Appreciating your posts Zona, as my internet is currently lagging too much to support a fluid video stream.
hrm, unimpressive micro from both sides in the first exchange a few rines are sent to the afterworld for their troubles.
roro taking his 3rd gas lomo sending out mnm/scv literally in single file, and the front medic/rine gets picked off for free but now he's controlling his mnm, first muta killed den already done and a few hydra waiting for the upgrade to finish
wow, roro taking a LOT of mnm hits as he approaches the mnm and then the mutas find ANOTHER single file line of marines and pick off a few before lomo notices queen's nest already
it's like elementary school with those lines of marines -_-
3 or so lurkers morphing at the nat 2 at the 3rd, on the ramp lomo sending his mnm up towards 12? why would he expect zerg to expand there? well factory's done and lifted, 2 ports start
lol lomos current medic to marine ratio is like 1:30
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Lomo's bio control is uh, pretty poor tonight.
a rine suicides to 2 lurkers holding the ramp at 3, lomo must know of the base now if he didn't suspect before lomo keeping his mnm really spread, gets a bunch of mnm picked off for his troubles
wtf - did lomo seriously consider sending mnm up the ramp to the 2 lurkers? a few die hive starting lomo adding 5th and 6th raxes
greater spire morphing whhhhhy? lomo adding firebats to his unit mix, picks off another OL
greater spire, how much you want to bet he wastes his guardians?
and mutas swing by to expose their vulnerable underbellies to mnm once again without getting a shot off nydus starting to the 3rd lomo adding a sorta-hidden cc north of 10
lomo has 2 drop ships roro has only 5 mutas left
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first 2 vessels out, another OL picked off roro once again carelessly flying mutas around near mnm 2 dropships out! roro taking a hidden 4th at 11
Both dropships sniped, but the Defiler mound goes down.
6+ guardians morphing north of lomo's nat but lomo drops 2 bat/mnm in roro's main unopposed the scourge come AFTER all the infantry is dropped
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RorO counters with guardians at the nat... Ooh hello spawning pool survives heh.
lol roros pool survives with liek 10 hp
lomo brings the pool down to red hp but lurkers defend guardians taking out the turrets at lomo's nat, cc lifts and scvs run cc being floated towards 11 (not 10) - only to discover the new hatchery there...both players are going to be surprised
wow 2 scvs sent to 11 kill the drone there finally guardians cleared with irradiate/mnm swarm/lurker attack on lomo's front door!
Guardians owned by 2 irrads and marines. Lomo finds out about the hatch at 11 with the floating cc. roro attacking the nat with lurkerling/swarms.
PHYSICS LAB! but i dont lomo has the econ to support bcs.
lol Lomo wants to go BCs.
hatch at 11 destroyed (by mostly scv? not sure) a very small group of mnm midmap surrounded and killed another lurkerling/swarm push towards lomo's nat, which he hasn't retaken
lomo adds a physics lab...why lomo floating a CC towards 11 which he cleared out earlier his other CC still hidden idle north of 10
alright at this point the game isn't worth watching swarm/lurker heads into lomo's main, controlling the top 2 raxes
Is the stream lagging really badly for anyone else, or is it just on my end?
On November 20 2010 13:24 QuothTheRaven wrote: Is the stream lagging really badly for anyone else, or is it just on my end?
Its the stream :/
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Lomo why aren't you tapping out?
It's lagging a bit for me too, jesus at those marines dying..
On November 20 2010 13:24 moopie wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 13:24 QuothTheRaven wrote: Is the stream lagging really badly for anyone else, or is it just on my end?
Its the stream :/
Ok thanks! Hopefully it'll settle down by the next game then
Huge comeback time gogogo
17 kill lurker finally dies as Lomo resecures his main and nat.
wow, a vessel gets scourged despite floating over a bunch of mnm being attacked by just a few lings lurkers creep closer to lomo's main mineral line, which is pretty much depleted anyways lings taking out the few scvs at 11 lomo still loading up his dropship meanwhile, roro has 12 up and running with a nydus too, and is taking 1
Am I the only one lagging really bad at craton's stream?
lots of vessels scourged a devourer is out too a small mnm attack on 12 plagued medics dying to a single ling in the aftermath of an attack towards lomo's nat
why is there just 1 single devourer...
but hey, lomo has his nat running again, as well as a 3rd at 10
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but roro now has 6 running too an entire field of lings rush at mnmnf - they all die but now 2 ultras join the party dropship heading towards 12 scourged
On November 20 2010 13:26 chaoser wrote: why is there just 1 single devourer...
Why is there at all a devourer...?
5 ultras pushing lomo's mnm back to his nat some lings join the fun lomo concedes
On November 20 2010 13:26 quasar wrote: Am I the only one lagging really bad at craton's stream?
No, see page 3 of the thread.
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Did Roro have an extra muta? But it still makes sense to keep it a muta for all those plagued units.
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Okay, so that lasted about 15 minutes longer than it should have. RorO takes set 1.
the inner psychic in me has no basis in reality the rational side correctly calls things!
Poll: Recommend game 1? Hell no! (6)
55%
Yes (3)
27%
No (2)
18%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 1?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No (Vote ): Hell no!
Oh, the drop did snipe the defiler mound. So it did achieve something.
the one devourer was morphed along with the guardians probably as an anti-wraith tactic? but one devourer alone doesn't particularly perform spectacularly against wraiths.
LOL I KNEW IT! Lomo killed his own wraith with the other one lol
Horang2 and s2 setting up. The zerg haven, known as "Aztec". s2 the orange zerg at 12. Horang2 the teal protoss at 4.
OL heading the right way early probe - proxy? no, the pylon is in the normal place - he was just scouting wrong
2 drones head out - one to 12hatch, other to scout forge starts ahaha, nice, the other drone held the lower ramp and forces the probe to go the long way pool starts horang2 with no information has to open cannon after forge
white guys making faces at the camera
nex starts after cannon 2 white guys making faces as they realize the camera is on them s2 takes his gas, starts his 3rd at 3
hidden expo by s2, lets see whether horang2 scouts it
probe being annoying in s2's main gateway finishes in front of horang2's choke s2 starts lair at his nat
probe heads to the nat and sees the lair start core starting in horang2's main
On November 20 2010 13:40 Invictus wrote: hidden expo by s2, lets see whether horang2 scouts it
it's relatively common for a quick 3rd to be taken by zerg ZvP, so it's not really a secret expo in the traditional sense about 5 lings heading towards horang2's choke? stargate and citadel?? starting for horang2? spire for s2
4th hatch for s2 at his 3rd first sair out 5th hatch at the nat choke no surprises so far sair working on an OL at s2's nat, sees the spire finish and s2 take his nat gas
horang adding 4 more gates in his main (to 5!) but scourge come by - do they see them all? mutas are out and find the speedlots heading up
just one sunken at the nat - but lings finish off the one zealot that heads there mutas fly around the main but don't do much damage, wary of the sairs
wow mutas getting tons of hits on a morphing archon - by the time it finishes it has only 80 shields or so another 2 gates being added, to 7
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well the shield battery comes in handy for the archon to refill - probably depleting the entire battery mutas/scrouge vs sair/archon/zealot as they move out from horang2's nat s2 adding sunkens, losing scourge
the force checks out s2's nat - there's plenty of defense there robo finishes, a few templar start chilling at the nat
yeah I think I'm going to switch streams...
sairs take a few hits from hydra before backing off observatory finishes drone waiting at 2 to take a 4th hydra chasing templar back towards 6 until they meet the rest of horang2's army 5 sairs killing ol's at s2's 3rd - just one hydra there ol speed done
horang2 taking his 3rd at 6 s2 morphing a spore at both his nat and 3rd, wise mutas trying to score hits on the forces at the 3rd mass hydra heading there too! queen's nest starting, s2 taking his 4th at 2
horang adds another 2 gates? horang2 moving out with a scary bal, with observer and 2? templar one storm goes off, s2 dodging very well but his hydra getting overrun
doom zoom on s2 as his forces retreat from the protoss ball - the ball approaches the 3rd, no the 4th wow gutsy horang2 taking inner 4 as his mass goons tangle with a few hydra at the 4th now the naked lurkers are fodder
horang control's s2's 4th - the drones still mining away as if nothing's happening hatchery destroyed, horang2 moving towards the nat
horang2 storms the sunken and one hydra losing lots of time to the wall but the den is broken down and horang2 moving in just one lurker there with the one sunken 2 unburrowed lurkers caught out of position!
s2 never really transitioned to hydra pumping...what happened there? more zealots rallied towards s2's nat a muta or 2 dealing hits s2 rebuilding a den at his main
horang2 adding another 2 gates zealots taking down the new den in the main it's been over for ages by s2 dragging it out
but s2 finishes off horang's army and now licks his wounds as horang2 takes a 5th at 7 horang2 moving out with a lot of templar but not too many goons lings find the wraping 5th and it's cancelled
s2 ggs
another army from horang2 atatcking s2's nat - s2 with no defense, a few lings attacking horang2's 3rd instead a handful of lings come from behind, get stormed to oblivion
WHOOO Horang2! cant believe he won a PvZ
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sweeet good job horang :D
horang2 too good! his pvz is underrated man, he's got this chobo 2 base 10 gateway style haha
a single muta idling by horang's defenseless 3rd but goonlot controls s2's nat, takes down the hive crackling taking down the 3rd nex but zealots come to save, s2 concedes.
horang2 won! i'm glad he's getting better in his other non PvP matches
Horang2 is best Horang. Show em some more strong PvZ! (Just tuned in so I assume it was a decent game)
horang2 destroys soo with just pure streght
Poll: Recommend game 2? Yes (9)
69%
No (4)
31%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 2?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No
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this is why soo is played instead of s2 lol.. pretty sad, he even beat jaedong last year :\
On November 20 2010 13:56 BlackMagister wrote: Horang2 is best Horang. Show em some more strong PvZ! (Just tuned in so I assume it was a decent game)
I'm sure you're not serious...but that kind of phrase doesn't really work when there's only one.
Yes I'd recommend game 2, it was a very exciting game imho. and thanks Zona for this extremely high quality LR.
On November 20 2010 13:58 Zona wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 13:56 BlackMagister wrote: Horang2 is best Horang. Show em some more strong PvZ! (Just tuned in so I assume it was a decent game)
I'm sure you're not serious...but that kind of phrase doesn't really work when there's only one.
Yeah I know what his name means, I'm a Sparkyz fan. Anyways was meant as kind of a backhand compliment, because yes there is only one Horang.
On November 20 2010 13:58 AlBundy wrote: Yes I'd recommend game 2, it was a very exciting game imho.
Hah, I guess it totally depends on which side you were expecting to win. I'm sitting here wondering when all the zerg units I'm expecting to see will show up...
On November 20 2010 13:59 Zona wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 13:58 AlBundy wrote: Yes I'd recommend game 2, it was a very exciting game imho.
Hah, I guess it totally depends on which side you were expecting to win.
I'm sitting here wondering when all the zerg units I'm expecting to see will show up...
Lol fair enough To be honest I love PvZ so my opinion may be a bit biased ..
Roro stretching his neck. He's got a pretty good complexion, actually. Roro the brown zerg at 11. Horang2 the yellow toss at 5. It's time to break some circuits!
On November 20 2010 14:04 AlBundy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 13:59 Zona wrote: On November 20 2010 13:58 AlBundy wrote: Yes I'd recommend game 2, it was a very exciting game imho.
Hah, I guess it totally depends on which side you were expecting to win.
I'm sitting here wondering when all the zerg units I'm expecting to see will show up...
Lol fair enough
To be honest I love PvZ so my opinion may be a bit biased ..
I usually cheer for P in PvZ too, but we have what looks like 5 hatch hydra...without the truly large hordes of hydra. 12hatch for roro at his nat, probe arrives to see it
pool starts nexus starts after forge, as is expected after scouting the later pool
wow, a cute couple in the audience enjoying the game, not looking away ror takes a 3rd at 8 just one ling chasing the scouting probe around - I don't like this trend but I suppose zergs have decided they can't kill the scouting probe with 6 lings so might as well get 2 more drones core starts at the nat choke - I don't usually see this placement? lair starts
4 lings (with speed?) do finish off the probe in the middle of nowhere, though stargate/citadel in the main
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both citadel and stargate warping for horang
spire starts as the lair at the nat finishes 2nd and 3rd gates start in horang2's main
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alright horan2 you got this shiz u gonna roll that roro
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4th hatch at roro's nat - I feel like I'm typing almost exactly the same things as last game den at the nat too sair comes to see everything
On November 20 2010 14:12 Zona wrote: 4th hatch at roro's nat - I feel like I'm typing almost exactly the same things as last game den at the nat too sair comes to see everything
are u watching craton's stream? im watching xsebt and i seem to be behind
maybe 9/10 zealots moving out they suddenly become speedy! roro with just a sunken and 3 mutas at his 3rd, plus a creep
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horang hanbanging the nat
sunken destroyed in a flash, drones run hmm, not enough damage to the drones for all those zealots
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Roro's mutas defend the attack
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mutaling on Horangs front
Yeah that wasn't a great attack
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mutas attacking the cannon at the nat choke more than 12 lings trying to force their way through the gap finally 2 sairs coming to defend mutas killing wraping cannons the core going down
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probes corasairs and zealots fend it off sniped the core though
core, cannon being rebuilt the attacks by both players not very effective sairs go OL hunting again
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twemplar archives warping in
the last living muta trying to scout the main? 5 sairs quickly pick off an OL at the nat before backing off from the hydra
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Hydras move out, horang warps 3 more cannons
hydra starting to appear horang2 adding 3 more cannons to the 2 at his nat hydra attacking the gateway at the choke sairs finally find refuge from the cloud of scourge behind them at the cannons horang2 adding more and more cannons dt comes to attack but roro brings 2 ol's to his hydra horang2 loses his forge and his core again
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horang holds but had to warp 6 cannons
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ALL CORSAIRS SNIPED BY SCOURGES (fail)
dt heading towards roro's 3rd, sairs come to help - but scourge chase the sairs away roro taking his 4th at 7.5 wow slick - all sairs picked off - there was like 5 or 6 queen's nest starts at the nat
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horang2 loses all his corsairs to scourge. Things not looking so hot for him right now. Proof that roro is a bad choice for your anti-team.
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lurker ling contain set up
horang2 adding 3? more gates in his main? another sair headed to roro's main scourged lurkerling taking position outside horang2's nat 3 templar there, roro better make sure he spreads well
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terrible followup by horang2 from the 2 gate speedlot +1 build led him to this shitty situation he's in now lol
support bay starting for horang2, more gateways hard to get a count with a jerky stream 2 ol's heading to horang2's nat - drop or not? dt peeking at roro's 3rd again, backs off
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roro has hive tech. 4 bases to 2, and horang2 is contained. I'll be very surprised if horang2 can mount a comeback.
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horang tries to bust contain, obs sniped, backs off for now
hive done, defiler mound starting a few rallied drones at roro's nat idle? horang2 trying to break into the lurker field with obs/goon the obs is scourged as lings rush to shield the lurkers still the lurkers are really close to the cannons, lings can't protect without taking his templar loaded up into shuttle (and maybe zealots too?) slow shuttle heading up NW! did it pass an ol? scourge heading to meet it - scourged!
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shuttle sniped by scourges
dt lost at the 3rd horang2 trying to break out again but roro has very few lings with his lurkers this time - loses the frontal lurkers before more lings come by the bridge, and are stormed but now mass hydra joining the party storms rip them apart a reaver out! only 4 goons left but more zealots added warm goes down - 6 lurkers move forwards and kill the reaver!
horang2 concedes. Now that's the PvZ I'm familiar with.
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damnit horang2!! lol killed so many units at the end but it was impossible to get back
Poll: Recommend game 3? No (12)
80%
Yes (3)
20%
15 total votes
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Late templar tech which led to the late DT's was Horang2's first problem, and not adding those 4 gates right away was the second problem :\
Horang2 also really delayed his ground weapons
wow lomo manages to be 61th in kespa ranking? I guess everyone after him must be b-teamers or old players who get very little playtime? s2 almost looks like he's praying with his eyes closed and hands clasped before the match but now serious face on!
A fight for survival, on Circuit Breaker. "usami" (lomo) the purple terran at 7. s2 the teal zerg at 1.
Is Craton playing GSL or something at the same time?
3 eggs after OL Lomo with first depot doing nothing - not wall, not for rax-hugging, not for scv-pushing 12hatch at the nat no rax yet? cc first?
lomo opens CC - but drone scouting cross-positions arrives to see it as it starts
lomo doing better with scv defense this time rax starts in the main
s2 starts a 3rd hatch in main (after pool/gas) drone brings scv down to 5 hp as 2nd rax starts it finishes the kill!
drone leaves, rightfully smug 2 lings out and heading SW past the scouting scv which arrives in s2's main
scv arrives to see the lair start lomo's raxes idle? just one scv on gas as the academy starts? ah there's more scvs now
drone finishes off the scouting scv as it's transferred to the nat one creep starts at the nat too, another scouting scv comes - gets past the lings into the main, sees the spire start
academy done, scanners start lomo now on 4 raxes, ebay up it really sounds like craton is playing something from ogn in the background... a pretty large mnm group moving out, speedlings fall back
Uh, isn't Lomo's scv drill scout illegal?
lomo's bad control leaves some marines isolated, lings surround and pick off mutas out one flies into mnm, turning yellow before pulling back lomo with a bunker at his nat, starting factory
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On November 20 2010 14:38 bearbuddy wrote: Uh, isn't Lomo's scv drill scout illegal?
I was wondering about that as well but KeSPA apparently does not care?
wow lomo turret timing fail s2's mutas get so many free shots in the main before marines come to secure things s2 takes a 3rd at 4.5, scv already there waiting
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Craton do you have some other stream on..? pls mute it..
mutaling attacking the nat - bunker broken but not much beyond that? not sure - stream kind of jerky mutas come into the main and score more kills
starport up for lomo mnm arriving at s2's 3rd - mutaling comes back for the save, but mnm hold the ramp s2 cancels instead, maybe he's taking 10.5 instead?
yeah, s2 has 10.5 up mnm now heading NW wow - lomo walks a huge bunch of mnm into 3 lurkers beyond his bridge mutas come to clean up the tanks
mnm moving to s2's 3rd - no defense there - muta/lurker coming from below hatchery in the red!
wow - s2 manages to save it somehow 6 lurkers morphing on the large NW ramp lomo adding 7th rax, on double ebay now
nydus/creep starting at s2's 3rd siege finishes first dropship loads up s2 morphing his 3rd into a lair for more hp
big lurkerling attack into lomo's mnm/tank force - a lot destroyed dropship sent to the relatively lightly defended 3rd scourged lomo's in really bad shape
pretty good mnm spread kills 3 lurkers though but it's kind of late s2 massing a lot of lings, adding greater spire defiler mound already done lomo losing more mnm to 2 lurkers outside his bridges
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Lomo seems pretty effed here
On November 20 2010 14:40 ArvickHero wrote: Craton do you have some other stream on..? pls mute it..
ok good I wasn't the only one. lol
lomo adding a CC in the east of his main don't think he'll get to use it though s2 adding a 4th at 10 s2 flying his mutas to the north of lomo's nat - and runs them into a turret guess he won't be morphing guardians there now that they've been revealed 4 lurkers holding the bridges to s2's top left corner
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Guards morphing just outside lomo's nat.
mnm get near 10 - but a swarm goes up to protect 4 lurkers and lomo backs off lomo also adding a cc near 4.5 3 guardians near lomo's nat finishes lings attack as the cc tries to land at 7 mnm clear things out though 2nd starport's control tower cancelled now that the guardians attack the nat s2 doesn't spread the irradiated guardian...
lurker/defiler approaching lomo's 3rd - but they run past marines without burrowing, and die wraiths out to attack the guardians, 1 scourged but the other lives with 10 hp... scourge was a good idea but always have more than you need!
despite crushing lomo's army multiple times s2 still not winning? well lomo has his 4.5 and his 7 base running he tries attacking the mass of lurkers at 10 but backs off lomo's mines done, a few laid s2 must be clueless about lomo's 4th ultra cavern being added
swarms at s2's main bridge hold off lomo's small army for now 2 dropship moving with lomo's main army NW towards 10 lings moving down see them approach a bunch of scourge try to move in but most die one dropship scourged htough another factory added at 4.5, and another
s2's falling apart - he can't muster a strong attack and he's desperate in defense dropship elevating mnm into s2's 3rd
wow I guess we know why he hasn't been sent out for proleague 3 lurkers suicided into lomo's army by not burrowing
ah I have to switch streams... but s2's getting pushed around
man, and somehow we thought s2 was the most reliable T1 zerg but it turns out none of them are consistent for any prolonged period of time
finally lings attacking lomo's 3rd - but vulture/mnm clean things up s2 taking 12, but too little too late
Looks like lomo has this one after all, interesting. s2 had really poor followup...
I bet it would be worth it to get +1 spines so lurkers could two-hit marines that have lv 1-2 armor
nice, swarm in front of your opponent's army as your last lings die a decent plague on some mnm though
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where did that bigass fleet of scurge go?
This is such an awesome game, never would have guessed who's playing
first ultras out mnm attacking s2's new hatch at 12 defiler heads in doing nothing after the lings suicide themselves morphing hatch at 1 destroyed by mnmnf hold position vessels taking hits from spores sa they go on irradiate spree dropship to s2's main scourged ultraling trying to hold s2's 3rd as the sunkens fall plague on 2 vessels and some lings
Losing a second vessel to a spore T_T Come on man, you can do this, just concentrate!
Who needs scourge when you have spore colonies against science vessels?
neither player can really finish things a vessel hanging out at each of s2's 3rd and 4th, doing nothing and nothing being done to them this could take awhile...
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wow I keep hearing siege tanks so I'm getting reall confused LOL
s2 taking 12 again, a medic sees things ultra/lurkerling - a larger force heading towards lomo's nat and backs off from a handful of mnm there one vessel scourged
Battlecruisers incoming! That'd be so cool!
well s2's taken 3 lomo's added a physics lab again, in a different position though ultraling with swarm attacking towards lomo's nat - nice plague
Canada 8025 Posts
LOLWUT BATTLECRUISER I didn't even see the tech for it.
one BC out for lomo irradiated ultras erasing mnm but die off to reinforcements
On November 20 2010 14:58 Spazer wrote: LOLWUT BATTLECRUISER I didn't even see the tech for it.
The obvious counter to cattle is a cattlebruiser
lomo has 6 up and running? this game is going to take forever swarm/ling vs mnm midmap, the lings leave the swarm and die a few mnm find the idle hatch at 3 (idle for a long time despite being up for awhile) one ultra finish them all but more mnm come medics holding the ramp! but swarm goes down, mnm plagued bah s2 doesn't control his units to attack the medics holding the ramp 2 dropship drop at 12? lomo finally finishing things
only once the hatch at 3 destroyed does s2 send things to the area now the dropships drop at 1, destroying many drones there
uh, why is an ultralisk just chilling a few paces beside the cc at 6? finally it with some other ultraling attacks, and the cc lifts more mnmnf attacks 11, s2 losing bases left and right
s2's macro suddenly sucking today for some reason well lomo definitely solidly ahead now but he can't finish things as s2 holds his 4th
a drop at s2's 4th - but plague on the drop, lings/swarm cleans it up s2 with another small ultraling attack down the middle of the map a few vessels plagued, ultras irardiated even after so many minutes of dominating econ lomo just has 3 tanks...they're all destroyed
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Craton please turn off the other video me and my friend are getting confused by the tank sounds and commentators screaming out EE YOUNG HOO, WRAITHHH, and MIIIINE XD
so baad, both players not worthy of Ro16 imo
They're each coming back again and again as the other fails.
man it's so lame seeing small groups of units being randomly thrown against each otehr ultras force 7 to lift as it's close to being depleted lomo attacking the 4 sunkens at s2's nat with a lot of tanks/mnm but ling/muta clean up like 8 tanks...
Arghh, nooo, why did you do that Lomo? Why I don't know how well suited he is going to be to defend lower right portion of the map after losing all those tanks now...
we've been watching this work of art for half an hour now...
Lomo fucked that up so bad lol
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Good god this is going to delay Group 7 isn't it...
ultraling with swarm attacking lomo's mobile mnmnf force - lomo retreating meanwhile mnm attacking s2's hatch at 12 s2 actually tries defending with lings this time, but still loses a few drones to firebats
at this rate both players are going to mine out the whole map - in an excruciatingly slow manner more vessels being made and scourged
On November 20 2010 15:04 Zona wrote: we've been watching this work of art for half an hour now...
yo, this has been a good game. Forget who the players are
Lomo with ridiculously low scv count
lomo dropping right in front of 1, lings are there lomo also dropping at 12 and 1 - the drop at 12 defended, drop at 1 nets 6+ drone kills
This has been on scrappy game so far.
It takes two exceptional players to create a match like we're seeing today. If only one of the two sucked, we'd have a fast game if either player sucked just a little less, we'd have a fast game instead we have a perfectly balanced pair of suckitude, producing a turd of finest quality and size... s2 going to lose his morphing hatch at 3 again?
it looks like lomo has the ability to always pick the worst option, kinda the opposite of flash
Lomo's still got one big tank push even if he can't secure an expo
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Oh my goodness the plaguessss
should've stuck with battlecruisers imo
This game is ridiculous, lol.
the game is back and forth, for sure, but each attack and defense is so painfully suboptimal, to put it nicely ling/defiler/plague attack on lomo's mnm/tank army with 4 tanks plagued the army should be pretty vulnerable here comes ultraling
wow lomo's entire army decimated and now initiative shifts back to s2? but his attack peters out before it reaches lomo's cc at 4
Get a single muta on these vessels, damn you.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
This game could easily be a draw by virtue of both players being terrible...
one ultra survives to make it into the base at 4.5 but s2 massing a ton of lings to rush in... and rush at the ramp where the mnm are holding it ah, now swarms go down
It's like FlaSh vs Jaedong 2008 imo
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good god finally this is ending..
the cc at 4 has to lift and scvs run s2 HAS been killing much more valuable armies with his forces, so that counts for something, I suppose
One muta could've killed all those SVs minutes ago. They have no health.
On November 20 2010 15:10 n.DieJokes wrote: It's like FlaSh vs Jaedong 2008 imo
more like 1808
Looks like s2 has bought enough time for his newer expansions to kick in, not good at all for Lomo. This will probably be over pretty soon.
I admire the commentators for keeping up their energy level 4 vessels scourged, just one left ultraling invading lomo's last refuge at 4.5
Canada 2480 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:10 n.DieJokes wrote: It's like FlaSh vs Jaedong 2008 imo
Flash like Jaedong in the antimatter universe, where everything is the opposite but lomo still managing an attack on the hatch rebuilding at 11, for yet another time ultraling comes to defend and lomo concedes
I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe s2 didn't win
s2 slumps in his booth he looks SO exhausted he's going to be easy fodder for horang2 at this point
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
Just an awesome game from both players.
HAHAHA, awesome music on XsebT's stream.
United States 4053 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:11 integral wrote: I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe s2 didn't win
LOL that made me laugh
Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
Canada 2480 Posts
That took forever. Kwanro didn't teach SKTzerg how to play lategame.
Who would have thought that a long back and forth macro game could be this horrible?
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Yeah at least there's not going to be much delay... or any delay... between 6 and 7. Heh.
Alright, now all you gotta do is beat Horang2 and then I will have 12 streak. Do it for my liquibet!
ALLEYCAT BLUES 48987 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:12 infinitestory wrote: How long was that game?
more importantly, How bad was that game?
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On November 20 2010 15:13 bearbuddy wrote: That took forever. Kwanro didn't teach SKTzerg how to play lategame.
everything up until late game was alright..
What's the 'epic' music during that commercial?
+ Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
On November 20 2010 15:15 Wala.Revolution wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
At least 40% more starcrafty
On November 20 2010 15:15 Wala.Revolution wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
The funny thing is that the game isn't bad enough to be entertaining. It's just bad.
Canada 8025 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:15 Wala.Revolution wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
Lomo flew vessels into cannons when he was playing Jaehoon. He lost two vessels to spores in this game. You be the judge.
On November 20 2010 15:15 ArvickHero wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 15:13 bearbuddy wrote: That took forever. Kwanro didn't teach SKTzerg how to play lategame.
everything up until late game was alright..
well, the "late game" took up more than half the minutes of the match, though. I still don't know why, that among other things, lomo put his vessels on hold position over s2's spores...
On November 20 2010 15:11 integral wrote: I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe s2 didn't win
I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe he could come back after I couldn't believe s2 could come back after I couldn't believe lomo could come back after I couldn't believe s2 could come back after I couldn't believe lomo could come back.
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
I dont know. I think both played quite good except for a few mistakes that just happen in such a long game. I don't think it was a bad game.
s2 lightly rubbing his eyes hopefully he can recover enough to give us a good show probably not, though
On November 20 2010 15:17 Spazer wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 15:15 Wala.Revolution wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
Lomo flew vessels into cannons when he was playing Jaehoon. He lost two vessels to spores in this game.
You be the judge.
To a single spore, it looks like. He had a few get damaged a lot as well.
The final confrontation Horang2 the protoss at 4. s2 the zerg at 8. It's Triathlon!
Come on Horang2! I want to hear more great advice in your winner interview.
wow horang2 looks really bored at the start of the game I wonder if s2 can form even a barely coherent plan at this point OL heading in the correct direction OL first for s2
horang2 opening 1 gate, as is customary on this map
Fenrax
United States 5018 Posts
On November 20 2010 15:19 andrewlt wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 15:17 Spazer wrote: On November 20 2010 15:15 Wala.Revolution wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2010 15:13 Zona wrote: Poll: Recommend game 4? It's so bad, it becomes amazing. (19)
68%
Terrible (5)
18%
Great (4)
14%
28 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 4?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Terrible (Vote ): It's so bad, it becomes amazing.
I miss the game but was it as bad as Lomo vs Jaehoon?
Lomo flew vessels into cannons when he was playing Jaehoon. He lost two vessels to spores in this game.
You be the judge.
To a single spore, it looks like. He had a few get damaged a lot as well.
It was a 40 minutes game. Things like that happen.
s2 12hatch at his front nat oh, horang starts a 2nd gate as his probe arrives at s2's nat
s2 starts his pool, takes his gas
OL about to see the 2 gates probe still being annoying
horang2 going for 2 gate push not wanting another 40min game
pool finishes, 3 eggs form first zealot reaching s2's nat another 2 on the way probe heads to the back nat to expo zealot working on an egg at the nat 8 lings out - zealot surrounded and easily killed probe runs, 2 zealots en route run horang takes his back nat
wow, perfect surround on the zealot and he dies without giving a hit
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that first zlot got amubushed haha
wtf was that? Attack an egg lose a zealot
s2 adding a sunken at his nat, starts a lair horang2 taking his first gas, his tech is really late
3 zealots holding horang2's ramp spire starting, only now horang2 getting core if s2 doesn't screw this up but horang2 also getting a forge
On November 20 2010 15:23 BlackMagister wrote: wtf was that? Attack an egg lose a zealot
well if horang2 didn't put his 2 gates right on the OL scout path... stargate starts
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2hatch muta.. lets see if it works
Mutas could make this ugly for horang.
spire finishes, just 2, 3, 4 eggs form? or 6? not sure horang2 sprinkling cannons around his base adding a 2nd stargate
wow just scourge popping from s2's eggs den being added along with simcity
scourge scouting everything one lands on the sair but it dodges the other s2 taking a 3rd at 7.5 what's s2's gameplan?
horang2 going for heavy sair
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I'm not sure what s2 was trying to accomplish with that spire rush.. now he's really far behind economically.....
well s2 better have an answer for 2 stargate sairs robo starting for horang2
sair checks out s2's front nat, backs off from 2 hydra horang2 still on 2 gates s2 massing hydra but that ramp will be hard to break, horang2 adding another 2 cannons to cover it support bay starting
looks like s2 is getting ready for a drop
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double robo, double star.. will we be seeing a carrier transition? :o
ol's have speed - I guess drop would work too 6 sairs flying around - they find the 5 ol's - hydra are there but horang2 must suspect now 2 ol drop in the back nat!
Nice, dedicated sair reaver from horang2 assuming he stops the drop
yeeep. drop in natural is killing a lot of crap
nice, tons of probes explode before running now sairs patrolling the west of the main for further drops - now attack the ol's with the hydra at the back nat but return to find the ol's trying to drop in his main, they back off shuttle out! horang2 taking his front nat
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horang2 demonstrates how to have a huge air army but no ground army
s2 actually beat Stork on this map to knock him out of last survivor, crazy stuff
shuttle dropping a probe near 6 - hydra breaking the arbiter between horang'2 back nat and main horang2 expanding to 6 as well
horang2 with a ninja expo at 6
scourge see the nex warping in at 6 - s2 trying to drop the main again, rejected by sairs still he drops the 3rd at 6 and it's cancelled
s2 still on 2 hatches despite having a quasi-contain shuttle heading to s2's main gets scourged horang2 makes a face, almost smiling...
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
lol horang. bad luck mate.
United States 4053 Posts
AI YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA as horang2's shuttle is sniped en route to s2's base!
upgraded sairs, we're gonna see some webs
Omg epic face lol. Sad it means Horang2 is failing
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Horang2.. getting a fleetbeacon.............
if s2 can keep up this contain he'll be in great shape but he's really slow to expo despite having map control... finally he expands, to inner 9 sair mass with shuttle moves out, backs off from scourge
great scourge control by s2. this game is as good as over
quite a few sairs explode to scourge and hydra but now no scourge threaten the speed shuttle which heads west towards 10 - but s2 hasn't expanded there! another shuttle loading up 2 reavers another sair scourged
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Horang2 w/ the dohsairs rofl..
reaver dropped at s2's nat, destroyed by hydra and horang2 gives up like that
fail scarab and horang2 gg's sad
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Sair numbers being whittled down by s2. Looks to be over for Horang2.
horang ggs after his reaver only gets 1 drone kill
wow that was anticlimatic
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Poll: Recommend game 5? No (12)
92%
Yes (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend game 5?
(Vote ): Yes (Vote ): No
how sad group so many good players team up in the same group
yay someone else from skt1 doing well
So will there be a new LR thread? okay nevermind
I'm sorry but since this was shown on stream I want to find out what the background music - I hear it often.+ Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2010 15:34 n.DieJokes wrote: yay someone else from skt1 doing well
He didn't do well, he did less worse than the others. Still the zerg coach looks like he has some encouraging words after s2's exhaustingly long day.
Estonia 4504 Posts
Man, SKT sure has a good season.
argh wtf. horang 2.......
On November 20 2010 15:18 andrewlt wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2010 15:11 integral wrote: I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe s2 didn't win
I can't believe lomo lost after I couldn't believe he could come back after I couldn't believe s2 could come back after I couldn't believe lomo could come back after I couldn't believe s2 could come back after I couldn't believe lomo could come back.
I want to revisit this hilarious (in a good way) post...if it were any other pair of players, and the same game was being played out, I would totally agree. But with these two, I did believe they could let the other player come back...and they did.
Yes good night for liquibets! nice to see s2 qualifying
huh, I really thought Horang2 would make it out of this group
On November 20 2010 15:41 cabarkapa wrote: nice to see s2 qualifying
Although normally I'm a cheerleader for all things SKT...the manner in which he qualified...ugh.On November 20 2010 15:45 Crunchums wrote: huh, I really thought Horang2 would make it out of this group
From a group with 2 zergs and zerg-friendly maps?
hooray because s2 is awesome! and now i'm going to bed
Hong Kong 20321 Posts
Lomo is so bad now, 12 game loss streak and he's been looking terrible in most of those games This guy once had potential
On November 20 2010 23:34 Ikonn wrote: Lomo is so bad now, 12 game loss streak and he's been looking terrible in most of those games This guy once had potential
Bisu will have his revenge. Thanks for the LR guys, particularly Zona, you do a great job.
Lomo vs Roro was like the antithesis of Flash vs Jaedong. It was about as sloppy (but still hugely entertaining) as LoHoonRok games.