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Since I won't be here today (13th), someone will hopefully post results 
It's played as a tournament, and maps are chosen at the moment. bo3. It means each group will have 1 finalist and those 4 will compete for 3 places.
Groups!
Group A
Kingdom (P, SK T1) vs Niza (Z, Curriors)
JulyZerg (Z, POS) vs Lee Hun (The Cyberpark champ)
Ogogo (Z, Samsung Khan) vs Ggon (R, Samsung Khan)
Terato (P, SK T1) vs SaferZerg (Z, Samsung Khan)
Group B
ForU (P, Suma GO) vs Anytime (P, Samsung Khan)
Lee (T, POS) vs Mingu (Z, KTF)
GoodFriend (T, Curriors) vs Zergman (Z, Plus)
Cloud (T, KOR) vs TheWind (Z, SouL)
Group C
Silver (Z, Curriors) vs Fofy (T, Hanbit Stars)
Sync (T, KTF) vs Iris (T, Suma GO)
Ddang (T, Suma GO) vs Chojja (Z, KTF)
IntoTheRainbow (P, SK T1) vs Junwi (Z, Hanbit Stars)
Group D
Xellos (T, Suma GO) vs Doggi (T, Samsung Khan)
Autumn (P, KTF) vs Yellow (Z, KTF)
Nada (T, Curriors) vs Gyuntae (Z, SouL)
GoRush (Z, Suma GO) vs SC_Side (Z, KOR)
For Suma GO, I thought they were already GO, but Suma GO will stay as Suma GO until they find a new sponsership. The old sponsership (Suma) ended but Suma is still giving economical support to them (like team vans, uniforms and stuff).
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GoGo Nada and July...and I dont see boxers name up there...is he not competeing or what?
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On August 12 2004 09:10 Tai-Shu wrote:
GoGo Nada and July...and I dont see boxers name up there...is he not competeing or what?
He failed to get to the final prelim :O
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Braavos36375 Posts
sucks that nada and yellow are in the same group, that means only one will advance =(
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How is Niza doing lately ? What is The Cyberpark ?
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A: Ogogo
B: TheWind
C: Chojja
D: Nada
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A: JulyZerg
B: GoodFriend
C: Chojja
D: Nada
What the hell are Nada, Xellos, Yellow doing in same group?!
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group c is amazing.
A: July
B: Friend
C: Very hard, silver/sync/ddang are my favourite
D: Nada
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cyberpark is like a pc cafe chain i believe
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Group C and B are a joke compared to the skill level of group A and Group D
I totally agree with Ub3rnob3r
Nada,Xellos,Yellow
Kingdom,Julyzerg;Ogogo
in one group is not so funny
my predictions :
A)JulyZerg
B)Goodfriend
C)Sync
D)Nada
3 spots : Nada,Julyzerg,GoodFriend
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A:july
B:foru
C:chojja
D:xellos
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A.July
B.Cloud
C.Ddang
4.Nada
my predictions
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
kingdom thewind chojja nada
kingdom chojja nada
go
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will be rep pack from this matches?
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Kingdom
GoodFriend
Sync
Nada
Nada, Kingdom, Sync
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chojja nada julyzerg would be nice
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JulyZerg
GoodFriend
chojja
SC_Side <--- i love him
Chojja GoodFriend JulyZerG
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Group A only has 2 really good players -> JulyZerg and Kingdom
Group B I can only see GoodFriend going through (special guest star -> ForU  )
Group C has Sync, Junwi and Chojja.
Group D... that one is really hard -> Nada, Xellos and Yellow
I would like :
A: Kingdom
B: GoodFriend
C: Chojja
D: Yellow !!
But It will most likely be :
A: Kingdom or July, too hard to choose :p
B: GoodFriend
C: Sync
D: Nada
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A I prefer Kingdom Niza OgOgO
B GF maybe but I like ZergMan too
C hard to say I like Rainbow
D NaDa no doubt
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nooo nada and xellos in same group 
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Group BC go die-- T.T nada and xellos same group.
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ForU (P, Suma GO) vs Anytime (P, Samsung Khan)
Lee (T, POS) vs Mingu (Z, KTF)
GoodFriend (T, Curriors) vs Zergman (Z, Plus)
Cloud (T, KOR) vs TheWind (Z, SouL)
Silver (Z, Curriors) vs Fofy (T, Hanbit Stars)
Sync (T, KTF) vs Iris (T, Suma GO)
Ddang (T, Suma GO) vs Chojja (Z, KTF)
IntoTheRainbow (P, SK T1) vs Junwi (Z, Hanbit Stars)
So...atleast one of these will go to wcg. That sucks!
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why 'atleast' Junwi Rainbow chojja Sync GF and Foru are very good players.
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you all highly underestimate the "newcomers". Iris, Silver, Ddang, Goodfriend, Zergman and fofy could all do very well in sf
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off topic, and i dont wanna start a new thread, but has there been a polish wcg yet? and if not does anyone know when its gonna be held?? should be soon, isn't wcg september or somthing like that/?
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nada xellos yellow in same group. t.t
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A ogogo, I think his zvz is better than julys
B foru, I'm guessing he won't have to play pvz
C chojja, I'm not sure if he will make it, but I like his style and it suits the maps
D nada, just because
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It's not a round-robin though, is it?
It's a SE bracket bo3 in each group right?
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MURICA15980 Posts
Wow, looks like total groups of death as only 1 can pass. I think we'll have a strong Korean team this year. :O
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It's too bad the calls for the advancing players are all very similar.
Like July from Group A, Nada from group D, and so on.
Too bad there are so few superstars.
Infinity - I hope you're right about the newcomers (but I'd think they're going to be intimidated playing with the big boys).
And where's iloveoov? 
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MURICA15980 Posts
On August 12 2004 12:00 worst.player wrote:And where's iloveoov?
He decided not to come to a previous qualifier, for reason unknown. I don't know why... 'cause he could have won the whole thing.
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Probably didn't practice for it and didn't want to participate without any preparations.
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T_T the 3 i wanted to qualify.. xellos/yellow/nada in same group..
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On August 12 2004 12:30 ShOoTiNg_SpElLs wrote:
T_T the 3 i wanted to qualify.. xellos/yellow/nada in same group..
yea same here, i want to see nada/xellos in SF but i'm hoping for yellow to come out of here
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Iris terran is actually very good.
He has a good chance of winning his group if he can perform well in TvT.
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A:Ogogo But hoping KingDom
B:Goodfriend This group really sucks compared to others
C:Sync But hoping IntotheRainbow This group suxxx also
D:Nada But i'd hope yellow. I doubt he would get to top-3 though...
But im pretty sure at least 2 terrans are going to WCG finals this year =(. And Julyzerg isn't going, u'll c .
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A: JulyZerg - don't know how July's ZvZ stacks up though so maybe Ogogo can pull it off
B: GoodFriend - a bit tough to predict but I think Friend has a slight advantage above everyone else
C: Sync - again many of these guys are close in skill but Sync has been looking the strongest lately; Fofy or Iris making an upset wouldn't be surprising at all however
D: Nada - the guy recently lost to Xellos though in MSL so maybe the curse is off of Xellos. Yellow has been looking strong lately too but Nada himself seems to have a newfound confidence.
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oh my god and i suppose all the reps will be available??
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On August 12 2004 11:29 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
you all highly underestimate the "newcomers". Iris, Silver, Ddang, Goodfriend, Zergman and fofy could all do very well in sf
Well, they all got less experience on big events and are probably much more nervous.
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I would like to see at least one korean toss on WCG, but when I see this groups it doesn't sound realistic.
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Braavos36375 Posts
i really wish nal_ra or reach qualified =(
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On August 12 2004 14:01 jtan wrote: Show nested quote +On August 12 2004 11:29 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
you all highly underestimate the "newcomers". Iris, Silver, Ddang, Goodfriend, Zergman and fofy could all do very well in sf Well, they all got less experience on big events and are probably much more nervous.
GoodFriend placed 4th twice I believe in the MSLs.
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i think-
A - terato
B - Zergman
C - Chojja
D - Go rush
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JulyZerg
GoodFriend
Chojja
I Really want Yellow to take it so im going to vote him.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Hoping July, but i think Kingdom will take A
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Silver, DDang and Goodfried are definately not inexperienced, the others might be, but that could make them even more eager to show what they can do
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On August 12 2004 16:57 Slaughter)BiO wrote:
JulyZerg
GoodFriend
Chojja
I Really want Yellow to take it so im going to vote him.
Same but Nada will probably win
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OMFG WHY IS NAD AIN XELLOS IN SAME GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dam...
Kindom
goodfriend
Sync
nada
nada,kingdom,goodfriend
Xellos would have been 2nd but he in same group as kind nada 
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No liquibet for this?
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a little over 1 hour left now -_-;;
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China3334 Posts
go FIFO to concern the latest news, i'm sure they will put the results as soon as possible, and these big names are easily recognizable
www.fighterforum.com
gL all and Junwi FIGHTING!! games are starting in 40mins
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im excited now
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Omfg I can't wait, Gogo YellOw!
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okay guys dunno if you're going to like this but i'm here at the games got my own comp. linked up and i hear all these girls screaming which is hurting my ears lolz :p but anyways since double can't help you guys i'll try to inform you guys on what's going on. how's that sound?
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that would be very kind of you,hustler.
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okay damn i wanted to keep you guys in formed but due to the 10day period thing i can't post up anything. so what do i do now? should i just keep on posting up here?
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hmm. what is the 10day period thing? :O
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On August 12 2004 20:04 iloveStar wrote:
hmm. what is the 10day period thing? :O
this is like my 7th day that i've sign up for this forum. so i can't post... or you know someone can make me a page so i can post in the replies of the current scores
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is there a live feed of games or where are the brackets updated any links or anything?
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On August 12 2004 20:06 hustler100 wrote: Show nested quote +On August 12 2004 20:04 iloveStar wrote:
hmm. what is the 10day period thing? :O this is like my 7th day that i've sign up for this forum. so i can't post... or you know someone can make me a page so i can post in the replies of the current scores
dont know about that. but you can just post here in the reply.
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what do u mena u cant post? arent u posting now :O?
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On August 12 2004 20:42 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
what do u mena u cant post? arent u posting now :O?
i mean make my own thread
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now result:
Nada 2:0 Gyuntae
SC_Side 2:1 Gorush
Yellow 2:0 Autumn
I am not sure i am right.I saw from this link:http://www.fighterforum.com/
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Wow the ZvZ master falls to Side...
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ill make thread for u
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that would be nice Ace :D
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kingdom beats niza 2:1
july beats lee hun 2:1
ogogo beats ggon 2:1
saferzerg beats terato 2;0
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 12 2004 19:56 hustler100 wrote:
okay guys dunno if you're going to like this but i'm here at the games got my own comp. linked up and i hear all these girls screaming which is hurting my ears lolz :p but anyways since double can't help you guys i'll try to inform you guys on what's going on. how's that sound?
Assem?
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
group B
foru 2:1 anytime
mingu 2:0 lee
gf 2:0 zergman
wind 2:1 cloud
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The replays are not up
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okay here's the whole thing sorry being late but i had to work
kingdom 2:1 remember117
july 2:1 enfury
ogogo 2:1 ggon
trekkerman 2:0 terato
f0ru 2:1 Proooooooooooov
wcgme1wi 2:0 lee
goodfriend 2:0 obhae
smile_legend 2:1 [oops]cloud
s.s.m~[silver] 2:1 newbmw
sync 2:0 samjukdaebu
midas[gm] 2:0 ch0jja
ippo_forever 2:0 intotherainbow
xellos[yg] 2:1 9toterran
yellow 2:0 autumn
nada 2:0 gloiaths
champion_legend 2:1 gorush
if you go to the link i posted above they have replays for the final match well not all of them but most of them. (okay we didn't post them up yet maybe when it's all over dunno for sure) second round started just a while ago. so wait for more info
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Group A
Kingdom (P, SK T1) 2:1 Niza (Z, Curriors)
JulyZerg (Z, POS) 2:1 Enfury (The Cyberpark champ)
Ogogo (Z, Samsung Khan) 2:1 Ggon (R, Samsung Khan)
SaferZerg (Z, Samsung Khan) 2:0 Terato (P, SK T1)
Group B
ForU (P, Suma GO) 2:1 Anytime (P, Samsung Khan)
Mingu (Z, KTF) 2:0 Lee (T, POS)
GoodFriend (T, Curriors) 2:0 Zergman (Z, Plus)
TheWind (Z, SouL) 2:1 Cloud (T, KOR)
Group C
Silver (Z, Curriors) 2:1 Fofy (T, Hanbit Stars)
Sync (T, KTF) 2:0 Iris (T, Suma GO)
Ddang (T, Suma GO) 2:0 Chojja (Z, KTF)
Junwi (Z, Hanbit Stars) 2:0 IntoTheRainbow (P, SK T1)
Group D
Xellos (T, Suma GO) 2:1 Doggi (T, Samsung Khan)
Yellow (Z, KTF) 2:0 Autumn (P, KTF)
Nada (T, Curriors) 2:0 Gyuntae (Z, SouL)
SC_Side (Z, KOR) 2:1 GoRush (Z, Suma GO)
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nada reprsenting
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and xellos too bad they will have to play soon *sigh*
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hmm.. chojja lost 2-0 ..?
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My favorites are Nada and XellOs, but I always ask this, Why Iloveoov, didn't participate in the..WCG ?, or he loses before this ?
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bleh it should be 2 advances out of each group
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yea it should that would be way better.But atleast format is way better then last yr lol. is Ogogo really good? i thought he got to wcg last yr cause of shitty wcg format i didnt know he was actually good
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iloveoov and reach chose not to participate.
nal_ra wanted to participate but he found out about the tourney and signed up too late and missed the deadline so he couldn't get in.
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GO KINGDOM! Represent the protoss!!
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On August 12 2004 21:55 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: yea it should that would be way better.But atleast format is way better then last yr lol. is Ogogo really good? i thought he got to wcg last yr cause of shitty wcg format i didnt know he was actually good
He is good but he was still lucky in this year's prelim. He's only beaten silver and ggon so far as I know.
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Poo. Kingdom's gunna lose to July.
No toss... again? Hmmm... I wonder why? :\
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China3334 Posts
On August 12 2004 21:43 squall251 wrote:
Junwi (Z, Hanbit Stars) 2:0 IntoTheRainbow (P, SK T1)
great 
and thx squall251 for the neat forming results ^.^
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
foru 2:0 mingu
gf 2:0 wind
saferzerg 2:1 ogogo
july 2:1 kingdom
ddang 2:0 junwi
silver 2:1 sync
xellos 2:1 yellow
nada 2:1 side
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poor kingdom
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I really really hope NaDa makes it through! :O
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China3334 Posts
xellos 2:1 yellow -_-!
edit the score
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NaDa vs Xellos.. there is no way nada will lose to Side T_T.
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can we have a table with wins/losses for each group and player or something?
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China3334 Posts
nada 2:1 sc_side
next round should be
foru vs gf
saferzerg vs july
ddang vs silver
xellos vs nada
edit: is foru going to be the 1st protoss reprsenting korean wcg team?
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I gtg to bed, will someone please PM me the results in the morning. I really really appreciate it!
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
my bet goes for gf/ddang/nada
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China3334 Posts
im wondering all games will be finished today? i've heard that this prelim was supposed to last 3days or something, till Aug 15th?
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On August 12 2004 22:49 fw wrote:
my bet goes for gf/ddang/nada
me too!
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China3334 Posts
On August 12 2004 22:49 fw wrote:
my bet goes for gf/ddang/nada
all terran? -_-; July go!
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GRRRRRRR If Xellos was just ina nother group *sigh*...
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GoodFriend 2:0 Smile_LegenD
trekkerman 2:1 Ogogo
July 2:1 Kingdom
Midas 2:0 ipPo_Forever
s.s.m~[SiLvEr] 2:1 Sync
Xell0s[yg] 2:1 yellow
NaDa 2:1 Champion_LeGenD
f0ru 2:0 wcgme1wi
semi-semi will start in 5mins
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
yeah maybe july depending on brackets/maps.
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actually silent_control was toss user
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On August 12 2004 22:53 Emlary wrote: all terran? -_-; July go!
it's not so much rooting for them, but tasting the irony of it all.
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ForU the only toss user left T.T
and since pvt is his best, he *may* be the first toss to represent wcg for korea.
I really hope July will come through
And I really hope Xellos will beat Nada
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XELLOS BEAT NADA ! he betetr noT ! well ti doesnt matter hwhicever 1 of them win is fine
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On August 12 2004 23:20 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: XELLOS BEAT NADA ! he betetr noT ! well ti doesnt matter hwhicever 1 of them win is fine
I have never seen anyone that spells worse than you do.
Spellcheck is your friend
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the map rotation semi semi finals
1. WCG Korhal of Ceres
2. WCG Dahlia of Jungle
3. WCG Gorky Island
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ur all will show nada's amazing skelled at wcg 2004
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ddang beat ssmsilver 2-0
i knew ddang would get through
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
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is this going on as we speak??
edit: ew nevermind im an idiot.
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okay 3guys adavanced now. for the final spot it's xellos against NaDa and Xellos is up by 1 now
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So, no replays available,right?
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nada eliminated
xellos wins 2-0
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MURICA15980 Posts
On August 12 2004 23:44 fw wrote:
safer beat july 2:1
Wow?
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Russian Federation207 Posts
Why I cannot dl the reps? It says error 403 or smth .. Is it somehow connected with registration or what ?
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MURICA15980 Posts
Whoever wins the nada/xellos match will win WCG. Write one of their names on the gold metal right now.
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XellOs won!!! Yay!! DDanGG, XellOs, forU gogo
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dang xellos winning 2-0, i thought nada would take at least one game. Now i guess the last match up is forU and GoodFriend
EDIT: nvm
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midas 2:0 s.s.m~[SiLvEr]
f0ru 2:0 GoodFriend
trekkerman 2:1 july
Xellos 2:0 NaDa
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On August 12 2004 23:51 Remmus(Cfr wrote:
Why I cannot dl the reps? It says error 403 or smth .. Is it somehow connected with registration or what ?
I am registered there, but i still get this error
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Midas, Xellos and forU will advance as Safer has no chance
EDIT: Btw it is almost all SUMA GO team as SaferZerg has been in SUMA GO before.
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now i'm routing for midas, forU, and Xellos to take the 3 WCG spots.
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Fun to see saferzerg go through a group with july, kingdom, terato and ogogog...
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the 3 matches were all pantech and curitel vs suma go and suma wins all 3 games. safer is also on a loan from suma go to samsung. so all 4 ppl on final 4 are suma go players
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yeah a lotta koreans are saying they might as well take coach Gyu-nam Cho who is the head coach of the SUMA GO team.
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well uh... go xellos... -,.-
other players dont seem TOO good as in "not lose a single game in SF" good
edit: nm thats ddang right there!!! 
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argh replays dammnit... WCG here is in 2 days and im afraid of TvP on korhal
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Midas looks really strong, not losing one single game through his whole group...
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i don't think ddang would lose a single game, but i dont' know about foru, he woudl probably lose some
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MURICA15980 Posts
Congratulations for Xellos winning the gold in StarCraft at WCG 2004 San Fransisco.
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about the replay files i just asked and have been told that they'll prolly put the files up by tonight (korean time i mean) cuz they plan on doing everything all together
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On August 13 2004 00:12 Klogon wrote:
Congratulations for Xellos winning the gold in StarCraft at WCG 2004 San Fransisco.
Maybe you shouldnt rule out ddang, hes undefeated in the top 32 so far O_O
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MURICA15980 Posts
Nonono, Origin. Xellos already won.
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On August 13 2004 00:12 SoL.Origin wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 00:12 Klogon wrote:
Congratulations for Xellos winning the gold in StarCraft at WCG 2004 San Fransisco. Maybe you shouldnt rule out ddang, hes undefeated in the top 32 so far O_O
DDanGG will play vs XellOs in the semis, so we'll see how he is undefeated
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well xellos isnt known for his tvt if you get what i mean -_-
any of them winning wcg would be great anyway
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MURICA15980 Posts
Not being known for TvT and still beating Nada 2-0 very recently (in fact, today). I'm guessing it can't be TOO bad, yes?
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actually you are right, forgot about that
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damn i really wanted nada to win it all TT
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gj to XellOs, hope he takes the gold at wcg2004
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So, the games starting in 30 minutes!
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semi finals start at 5 (Korean time)
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GL to foru. How do you think Xellos will eliminate foru @ SF ?
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MURICA15980 Posts
He'll build many tanks and mow him over.
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What race user is Midas[gm] ? If he's Terran like Xellos, the looser of Xellos vs Midas[gm] will face the looser of Foru Vs Saferzerg. So i can't see anyway Foru can loose this if he gets another PvT.
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good news guys i've just been told that they're collecting the replay files so they'll be up in a hour or so :D
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On August 13 2004 00:44 hustler100 wrote:
good news guys i've just been told that they're collecting the replay files so they'll be up in a hour or so :D
YES!!!!!!!!
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On August 13 2004 00:44 hustler100 wrote:
good news guys i've just been told that they're collecting the replay files so they'll be up in a hour or so :D
Yeah, that is an excellent news
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Post here the link when they will be uploaded plz. THX!
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the maps for the semi finals
1. WCG Gorky Island
2. WCG Korhal of Ceres
3. WCG Martian Cross
from now and on they're all stage matches
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China3334 Posts
reps from round32??
lol that's really COOL, cant wait for em :D
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*sigh* too bad xellos had to play nada they were supposed to go 2gether.Go XELLOS
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BTW DDanGG is 17 years old :O
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okay so Xell0s lost to midas. 2:0 so the only way you'll see him is, if he gets the 3rd place
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OMG, Midas is a true gosu :O
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ddang? midas? wth, this has wcg2003 written all over it.
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On August 13 2004 01:50 UniversalMoron wrote:
ddang? midas? wth, this has wcg2003 written all over it.
DDanGG[gm] aka Midas[gm]
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told you not to underrate him
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safer and foru not finished yet
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midas did lose a game tho, 2-1 against zeus 12-1 through the whole thing
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no it's midas + winner of foru/safer + winner of xellos vs loser of foru/safer
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daaamn nada! I hope atleast xellos makes it
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
foru beat safer 2:1.
the final and 3rd place match will be held on 15th, 02pm KST.
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f0ru just beated trekkerman 2:1 seems like that trekkerman is really frustrated that he lost the match cuz after the match he sat in his capsule for about 5mins shaking his head.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going???
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I really hope xellos beats saferzerg
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coz 3 is the max number of slots that can be avaivable for each country, including Korea.
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i'm fairly certain he will, especially with gorky in the map list
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On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going???
because they have only three medals in WCG.
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On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going???
ain't 3 people quite a lot? most countries send like 1 or 2 max and a lot don't even send any
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On August 13 2004 02:48 beowolf7 wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? because they have only three medals in WCG.
ROTFL, im preety sure that this year WCG will win guy not from Korea. The age of pro has ended ^_-
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On August 13 2004 02:48 beowolf7 wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? because they have only three medals in WCG.
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gogo ForU
So long as he doesn't get terran players on gorky he's got it won
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so is there any news on ddangg vs foru and xellos vs saferzerg games?
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they will play tomarrow at same tame as today, i mean 5 o'clock korean time : )
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well that's a wrap up from the WCG have a good day guys! :D
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first korean prtoss user going to wcg i think
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ok so reps?
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everybody's waitin : )
yeah, i guess lefty u r right
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"reps will be in an hour"
yeah right -.-
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and what yellow , july, ogogo, silver , nada , chojja all lose ?? ? ? ? ? I dont understand but anyway gl to new winners
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if they dont release replays.. i go there and kill them
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yea no kidding where are the reps?!
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Russian Federation207 Posts
reps seem to be uploaded to the site with brackets but when u try to dl them u get error 403 or smth
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T_T it sux... how long should we wait ? I know u can't answer :>
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as u see midas xellos saferzerg and foru were better.
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yea 403 forbidden to dl
"You are not authorized to view this page"
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damn ! u r right Ready2: NUKED ^_^
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reps?
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Maybe the people who won really practiced on the WCG maps alot and that gave them the edge over ppl like july/kingdom/nada whom probably spend at least 1/2 their time practicing for OSL or ITV maps
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What the hell did Ddang have for breakfast? And who is trekkerman?
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I guess thats the same reppack that i Dled long time ago. I just thought he sucked when he lost like 5-2 to that PUSAN. Either he was pushing weakly, or doing his "ddangrush". He didint harass too much either. Anyway, I guess he has practiced-_-
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Oh man, I didn't expect that Nada lose against XellOs, or XellOs lose against MIdas[Gm], Anyway, XellOs has to won against SaferZerg to get the third spot to WCG
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On August 13 2004 02:50 niom wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:48 beowolf7 wrote: On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? because they have only three medals in WCG. ROTFL, im preety sure that this year WCG will win guy not from Korea. The age of pro has ended ^_-
Your so wrong LOL!
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trekkerman is SaferZerg, he obviously likes Trek
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so I guess no replays today T___T
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What a bag of crap, damnit NaDa, now your cursed against Xellos.
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China3334 Posts
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<3 <3 <3
Hmm how to register`?
Gah EDIT: YES im logged in, NO i cant dl
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do you remember the last win of chojja? what is wrong with him?
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Russian Federation207 Posts
i can't help trying to dl these sweet reps T_T
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if i try to dl them it goes You are not authorized to view this page.
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If someone dls this, make a pack!
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I am registered too, but it's the same error. Arghh...
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China3334 Posts
ahh, wait a second, cant dl myself either T_T
just now i guess it might be something wrong with the account i logon, well it seems they havent put reps up -_-; I'm sorry
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hustler100 where are you?
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I cant make an account, says some weird shit
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On August 13 2004 04:01 jtan wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:50 niom wrote: On August 13 2004 02:48 beowolf7 wrote: On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? because they have only three medals in WCG. ROTFL, im preety sure that this year WCG will win guy not from Korea. The age of pro has ended ^_- Your so wrong LOL!
oh, im so sorry, forgive me
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i made an account for you
Name: Team@Liquid.net
PW: broodwar
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On August 13 2004 04:27 niom wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 04:01 jtan wrote: On August 13 2004 02:50 niom wrote: On August 13 2004 02:48 beowolf7 wrote: On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? because they have only three medals in WCG. ROTFL, im preety sure that this year WCG will win guy not from Korea. The age of pro has ended ^_- Your so wrong LOL! oh, im so sorry, forgive me
I forgive you.
But DONT do it again!
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On August 13 2004 04:30 Honk2000 wrote:
i made an account for you
Name: Team@Liquid.net
PW: broodwar
It won't help anyway
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On August 13 2004 04:30 Honk2000 wrote:
i made an account for you
Name: Team@Liquid.net
PW: broodwar
thx but i cant dl anyway
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On August 13 2004 04:41 Emlary wrote:
they will be up soon?
I really hope they will -.-
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yea someone dl and make rep pack
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On August 13 2004 05:16 SuGoSu wrote:
SHIT IM DLING THEM RIGHT NOW.
What?! How?! Where?!
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On August 13 2004 05:19 SuGoSu wrote:
just kidding.
Bad joke
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
SuGoSu is sexy, he's mocking all you impatient bastards~~~
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omg, xellos win this so we can get some fresh replays from you whopping up everyone at wcg
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they are still not up yet
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 13 2004 02:50 hustler100 wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? ain't 3 people quite a lot? most countries send like 1 or 2 max and a lot don't even send any
Not when China, Czech, slovakia, Canada, USA and other send FOUR players.
YES 4!
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If the zerg player doesn't get a spot, I see little chances for a korean to win wcg
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On August 13 2004 06:02 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 02:50 hustler100 wrote: On August 13 2004 02:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why only 3 people from korea are going??? ain't 3 people quite a lot? most countries send like 1 or 2 max and a lot don't even send any Not when China, Czech, slovakia, Canada, USA and other send FOUR players. YES 4!
You only need 3 to be the top3^^
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On August 13 2004 06:18 Breeze wrote:
If the zerg player doesn't get a spot, I see little chances for a korean to win wcg
*nod* Seconded.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Why? I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;;
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The point is that Europe/US is ten million times stronger in vp and vt matchups than vz mus. Common sense. It's not like they won't put up a fight, it's just way more likely that "we" will be able to get a champion if they don't have a zerg representative.
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There is NO z (probably not blackman either) who's going to stand a chance in ZvT vs any of the terrans, VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
Not a single T will beat foru and that's a fact.
What P do you think will beat xellos/ddang -.-?
TvT ... LOL
I think Z's are to be preferred since they are much weaker to cheese!
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Some good news :D
I told you guys not to underrate Ddang!
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Looks like XellOs's curse is off for good. About time...
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Not having these reps is killing me.
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FA don't worry... it's been the same every year, I can tell you that at least 1 or 2 of your heroes will get raped, maybe one or two will get good spots and one of course might win the whole thing. For the ones that get raped fanboys are gonna explain that they are in a slump right now, that they wouldn't have lost if it was 2 months earlier, that it was a bad matchup, etc. etc. Then 2 months later no one will remember those losses and will sing the old song about their godliness again
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All I'm saying is that Europe/US has so few really good zergs that it's obvious their tvp and pvt, tvt and pvp matchups are stronger than their vz matchups. I'm not saying they are pro gamer level or anything, but Euro/US players certainly stand a better chance vp and vt than vz, generally speaking.
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no chance for european and asian(outside korea) sc players. :O
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Russian Federation4 Posts
Final WCG Korea
midas vs fOru
hmm... no Nada, no Yellow, no JulyZerg...
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I doubt Foru will loose to any foreign Z's at SF if he can own korean zergs like this... His PvT is one of the best in the world or maybe best... and PvP i guess he's also good.
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Lame...same stuff last year too
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well the problem is that the wcg maps are kinda bad for toss. And while the only matchup i see ddang or xellos might lose vs a foreigner is tvp,
I think the odds of someone pulling that off in a bo3 are nearly zero. And someone beating those guys in zvt or tvz? don't see that happen.
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i guess it shows again that wcg ist not the most important event to korean pros once again. either the maps just favor different players than the ogn maps by design or players like nada, kingdom and july didn't train as hard on the wcg maps as ppl like ogogo and midas. or how else does it come that the ogn/mbc leagues always have totally different results from the wcg.
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Russian Federation204 Posts
Where dl replays??? I want 'em, baby!
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea.
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On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea.
It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad...
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Russian Federation207 Posts
damn ! I ve spent 1,5 hr in gym , went back , and still no reps ?!?!
im gonna byte someone in an ass
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On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad...
That is true
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On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea.
He almost allkilled the whole T1 team recently 
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It is not the most important league for those progamers in Korea, but it doesn't mean that they don't prepare for it. The whole Suma GO team went to Daegu to practice only for WCG prelim. :O
Well it's pretty weird that July lost to SaferZerg, but SaferZerg had good ZvZ anyway :D
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Russian Federation207 Posts
Hands off from ForU , he is cool korean toss
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I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing.
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
ForU is gonna make Korea look so bad. If Xellos gets 3rd place will he be able to go to WCG?
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On August 13 2004 08:58 Angel[BTL] wrote: I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing.
Trek is doing only ground vs terran and he pulls it off very good.
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On August 13 2004 09:03 ZpuX wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:58 Angel[BTL] wrote: I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing. Trek is doing only ground vs terran and he pulls it off very good.
Yeah. Question is if foru is in good shape or not. It seems so now though'-'
I remember nada vs Forugame-_- Foru has 45 gates and loses. haha. 45 is many.
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foru should be a fucking zerg player.
his macro/unit positioning is out of this world.
i remember back in the day him playing zvp and raping people.
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On August 13 2004 09:03 ZpuX wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:58 Angel[BTL] wrote: I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing. Trek is doing only ground vs terran and he pulls it off very good.
I sure hope for Trek to meet ForU and then we'll see what he'll pull off . Some european players are very good to thinking the game like trek, eriador but they lack the speed of a progamer and it really shows off in the play of a long game.I think this year's wcg will be very interesting.
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Russian Federation207 Posts
No , then there would be one sexy toss less in this world
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Garimto should've qualified and gone to SF, people would rather do a Madfrog and let him have the win than risk him losing - he might be quite nice and innocent, but he sure doesn't look that way.
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On August 13 2004 07:22 Breeze wrote:
FA don't worry... it's been the same every year, I can tell you that at least 1 or 2 of your heroes will get raped, maybe one or two will get good spots and one of course might win the whole thing. For the ones that get raped fanboys are gonna explain that they are in a slump right now, that they wouldn't have lost if it was 2 months earlier, that it was a bad matchup, etc. etc. Then 2 months later no one will remember those losses and will sing the old song about their godliness again
Uh I think the skill level is SLIGHTLY different this time from the previous WCG's (well not 2002 where boxer and yellow met in final ^^)
Btw, I had never seen ddang play until today, I find xellos dreadfully boring and foru ok to watch o.o All my 'heroes' already got knockedout or stopped playing : )
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Btw, i can make fOru rep pack His PvT is trully awesome :O
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On August 13 2004 08:02 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
well the problem is that the wcg maps are kinda bad for toss. And while the only matchup i see ddang or xellos might lose vs a foreigner is tvp,
I think the odds of someone pulling that off in a bo3 are nearly zero. And someone beating those guys in zvt or tvz? don't see that happen.
Khoral and Dahlia are very good for P vs T o.o HOWEVER, I don't think that matters when it's fucking xellos and midas >.<
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On August 13 2004 08:09 Asta wrote:
i guess it shows again that wcg ist not the most important event to korean pros once again. either the maps just favor different players than the ogn maps by design or players like nada, kingdom and july didn't train as hard on the wcg maps as ppl like ogogo and midas. or how else does it come that the ogn/mbc leagues always have totally different results from the wcg.
Because other leagues favour players who already has been in it + TV games = much more pressure!
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It's already night in Korea, so where are reps? >.<
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On August 13 2004 08:35 tfeign wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad... That is true
No it's the fact that there's a 100 more progamer Zergs than progamer tosses and that the maps being so horrible for a while.. P's have been winning over 50% of their games vs z lately (a lot more for a while, they had like 66% win during last half of 2003)
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On August 13 2004 09:03 ZpuX wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:58 Angel[BTL] wrote: I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing. Trek is doing only ground vs terran and he pulls it off very good.
PLEASE
DO NOT
FUCKING COMPARE TREK TO FORU!
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hmm if xellos wins wcg he will skyrocket to #1 kespa ranking, wont he? OO;
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On August 13 2004 09:30 SoL.Origin wrote:
hmm if xellos wins wcg he will skyrocket to #1 kespa ranking, wont he? OO;
Well, not #1, but i think he will jump up to #5.
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On August 13 2004 09:30 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 09:03 ZpuX wrote: On August 13 2004 08:58 Angel[BTL] wrote: I like ForU style. It is so cool.In pvt he throws all his got with his ground units; i mean what protoss player have u seen that almost the entire game plays with ground units without the support of carriers? ForU protoss style is so awesome that in his game it is not the terran who is containing the protoss but backwards .Those who haven't seen yet his reps don't know what they're missing. Trek is doing only ground vs terran and he pulls it off very good. PLEASE DO NOT FUCKING COMPARE TREK TO FORU!
lol, I didnt compare them as players, just their playstyle.
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Russian Federation207 Posts
roMAD , reppack of ForU would be greatly appreciated
p.s reppack of the whole tourney would be supermegakvazi appreciated
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On August 13 2004 09:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 08:35 tfeign wrote: On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad... That is true No it's the fact that there's a 100 more progamer Zergs than progamer tosses and that the maps being so horrible for a while.. P's have been winning over 50% of their games vs z lately (a lot more for a while, they had like 66% win during last half of 2003)
Protoss have to practise some cheese strat for everygame in the leagues. It's different thing when they have to play like 10 games in a row like now. So i find it a big surprise P user got through.
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Well, i wanted to make fOru's rep pack a few months ago, but then i gave up that idea, anyway i have 53 reps of him, going to find some more And yes, the pack of today's event would be GREATLY appreciated.
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shoulda been a losers bracket.
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I'll take a ForU rep pack (sorted into version folders at least and matchup preferably - decently named reps) and give it a home.
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So, as i can see, many people want fOru pack?
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i would prefer a gorush rep pack ..
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On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;;
And did you see JoseZ and FroZ (twice) beating BoxeR 2 years prior?
VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
I don't think you've heard of Blackmans exhibition game vs foru in Korea WCG 2002.
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theres lots of good forigen protoss players and most say their best matchup is pvt
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funny ddang & ddong all the way -_-
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On August 13 2004 10:47 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;; And did you see JoseZ and FroZ (twice) beating BoxeR 2 years prior? Show nested quote + VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
I don't think you've heard of Blackmans exhibition game vs foru in Korea WCG 2002.
Xellos and ddangg much more stable styles of play :O
And do you know where I can get those exhibition games ^_^?
+ What maps and who won (I guess your post means foru got destroyed :D which isn't really odd considering that WCGs maps!)
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On August 13 2004 09:45 Babar wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 09:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: On August 13 2004 08:35 tfeign wrote: On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad... That is true No it's the fact that there's a 100 more progamer Zergs than progamer tosses and that the maps being so horrible for a while.. P's have been winning over 50% of their games vs z lately (a lot more for a while, they had like 66% win during last half of 2003) Protoss have to practise some cheese strat for everygame in the leagues. It's different thing when they have to play like 10 games in a row like now. So i find it a big surprise P user got through.
P users always get through when they have at least one map which is good for them and no more than one really bad -_-
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On August 13 2004 11:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Xellos and ddangg much more stable styles of play :O
And do you know where I can get those exhibition games ^_^?
+ What maps and who won (I guess your post means foru got destroyed :D which isn't really odd considering that WCGs maps!)
Excuses, excuses.
BoxeR was definetly more dominant on the Korean scene than Xellos and Midas are now. I can understand they probably will be the best players in San Francisco along with foru (that is if Xellos actually qualifies), but that doesn't mean they won't lose a single game. All this praising is making me feel pretty sick.
As for that exhibition I'm not sure which map was it (probably LT), but I do know Blackman pretty much raped Foru. I don't want to be falsely accused of spreading rumours again so Fizban might be as kind as to give you some details.
But as you see - there's no reason to think that they're unbeatable.
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Even if boxer was more dominant it doesn't change anything! His style was more prone to fuckups and the like~~~~~
Second, I didn't mean to say they wouldn't lose a single game; what I meant was I don't think anyone will beat them in a bo 3, especially with gorky and khoral in there (gorky freewin vs p khoral advantage vs z).
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On August 13 2004 10:47 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;; And did you see JoseZ and FroZ (twice) beating BoxeR 2 years prior? Show nested quote + VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
I don't think you've heard of Blackmans exhibition game vs foru in Korea WCG 2002.
2 years is a loooooooooooong time bud.
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On August 13 2004 11:02 FrozenArbiter wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 09:45 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 09:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: On August 13 2004 08:35 tfeign wrote: On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad... That is true No it's the fact that there's a 100 more progamer Zergs than progamer tosses and that the maps being so horrible for a while.. P's have been winning over 50% of their games vs z lately (a lot more for a while, they had like 66% win during last half of 2003) Protoss have to practise some cheese strat for everygame in the leagues. It's different thing when they have to play like 10 games in a row like now. So i find it a big surprise P user got through. P users always get through when they have at least one map which is good for them and no more than one really bad -_-
Well only 5/32 were protoss, which isn't very good. So i don't think they always get through. Last year on the same maps they didn't get through.
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On August 13 2004 11:46 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Even if boxer was more dominant it doesn't change anything! His style was more prone to fuckups and the like~~~~~
Second, I didn't mean to say they wouldn't lose a single game; what I meant was I don't think anyone will beat them in a bo 3, especially with gorky and khoral in there (gorky freewin vs p khoral advantage vs z).
And XellOs and Midas have developed a style which is not 'prone to fuckups'? Are you sure BoxeRs loss was a consequence of his style?
I don't know what the system will be in San Francisco, however I can bet with you if you want, that one of the Korean representatives will be eliminated by a foreigner. I can put money on that.
On August 13 2004 12:12 Sky101 wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 10:47 tomson wrote: On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;; And did you see JoseZ and FroZ (twice) beating BoxeR 2 years prior? VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
I don't think you've heard of Blackmans exhibition game vs foru in Korea WCG 2002. 2 years is a loooooooooooong time bud.
You're missing the point, 'bud'. Are you suggesting that the skill gap between foreigners and Korean progamers has drastically increased over the last 2 years ?
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Well there are more pro teams now and they are more organized, practice a lot more, against stronger opponents, and koreans (as was seen in korea vs china) know a lot more about map strategy than foreigners, so chances are they wont be eliminated like last year. Last year was bo1 and played on LT... there is a huge difference.
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Tomson laying the smackdown -__-;.
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Oh I'd love to see Saferzerg win vs Xellos
Everyone's acting as though Xellos has already beaten him
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i dont think anyone last year would have bet grrrr... getting 3rd place and beating silent_control for it
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I WANT REPLAYS FUCKIN NOW!!
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On August 13 2004 11:15 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 11:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Xellos and ddangg much more stable styles of play :O
And do you know where I can get those exhibition games ^_^?
+ What maps and who won (I guess your post means foru got destroyed :D which isn't really odd considering that WCGs maps!) Excuses, excuses. BoxeR was definetly more dominant on the Korean scene than Xellos and Midas are now. I can understand they probably will be the best players in San Francisco along with foru (that is if Xellos actually qualifies), but that doesn't mean they won't lose a single game. All this praising is making me feel pretty sick. As for that exhibition I'm not sure which map was it (probably LT), but I do know Blackman pretty much raped Foru. I don't want to be falsely accused of spreading rumours again so Fizban might be as kind as to give you some details. But as you see - there's no reason to think that they're unbeatable.
*hug* Thankyou, thank you. That was the point I was striving to get across - you just stated it much more clearly.
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On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Why? I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;;
when im in shape i have no problem beating either one of those on these maps (not gorky)
and if i can do it there's plenty of others who stand a decent chance
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Where is the replays? when will be released?
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Naz very confident, wait and see I guess^^, He's all rdy defeated Xellos on TV if some1 remembers -_-
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I have beaten both Ogogo and Xellos in tournament/tv already so it's not really about confidence concerning WCG (not getting my hopes up) I'm just diggin in the past and using it as a reference
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man, i am loving this new tomson.
first all those blackman jokes, now the smackdown.
tomson rules
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omg they still didn't put them up? lolz but this time they really are putting up the replays cuz i just saw with my own eyes you can trust me on this one
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the games are going to be finished today right?
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I obs trunkz from chile won vs foru but foru probably wasnt trying ^^
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I expect at least one of them will get 2nd in his group and at least one of them will be knocked out in the first or second round.
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xellos plays so solid, he will most likely not lose a game
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Sweden1225 Posts
Time for people to stop underestimate ddangg soon perhaps? :O
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offtopic, but nazgul's helmet was uncastrated!
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On August 13 2004 20:49 ApollyoN wrote:
the games are going to be finished today right?
nope the SC finals will be held tomorrow on stage
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hey im really outdated so what happened to boxer?
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On August 13 2004 22:00 FHM wrote:
hey im really outdated so what happened to boxer?
he dropped out of the prelims :'(
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On August 13 2004 09:12 BigBalls wrote:
foru should be a fucking zerg player.
his macro/unit positioning is out of this world.
i remember back in the day him playing zvp and raping people.
Ahahah I totally agree. He raped Zeus like crazy and I remember him getting SO close to killing Reach back when Reach was climbibn to his rookie fo the year status... but ForU way back in the Dak Ddong Days was not only creative and mean as hell, but he was so cute. Dweb mania back in the day... sigh.. I miss his old self.
Also, I remember last year ForU did pretty well in prelims too gettin eliminated by Yellow I think? But he SLAUGHTERED Xellos on Char. Total step by step dismantling the Perfect Terran back when his uber safe play style was being picked up by everyone.
Also, I wouldn't rule out ForU simply because Ogogo and Silent Control did REALLY well last year too. Who was the other one? HOT? Eh.. he has his jinx.
FORU FOR CHAMPION~ WOO WOO -_-;;
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On August 14 2004 00:08 SuGoSu wrote:
they have removed replay download section from the brackets. i think they will never publish replays, maybe those top 3 players requested to do so hide strats.
nah it's not that the thing is they're having problems cuz some people messed up with keepin the records
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are they really? i don't see it
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What are you talking about? I cant find any rep
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omg they seem to have removed them. well i have downloaded r32 and r16, so they prolly be back soon
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ok now ive made a reppack so if any1 can tell me were to upload it would be great
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On August 13 2004 22:49 SuperJongMan wrote:
but ForU way back in the Dak Ddong Days...
Yeah, imagine if he was still using [dak]ddong. I mean people here would all be confused with "ddang and ddong? wtf?"
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Theres a huge difference between DDanGG and DDonG.
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On August 14 2004 01:40 Klogon wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 22:49 SuperJongMan wrote:
but ForU way back in the Dak Ddong Days... Yeah, imagine if he was still using [dak]ddong. I mean people here would all be confused with "ddang and ddong? wtf?"
and lets not even talk about [dak]dding, foru's brother...
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 13 2004 12:26 Babar wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 11:02 FrozenArbiter wrote: On August 13 2004 09:45 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 09:28 FrozenArbiter wrote: On August 13 2004 08:35 tfeign wrote: On August 13 2004 08:15 Babar wrote: On August 13 2004 08:12 Tien wrote:
wtf? ForU? This guy gets kicked around in every single other league but manages to make it through wcg korea. It's the bloody PvZ that makes protoss users look so bad... That is true No it's the fact that there's a 100 more progamer Zergs than progamer tosses and that the maps being so horrible for a while.. P's have been winning over 50% of their games vs z lately (a lot more for a while, they had like 66% win during last half of 2003) Protoss have to practise some cheese strat for everygame in the leagues. It's different thing when they have to play like 10 games in a row like now. So i find it a big surprise P user got through. P users always get through when they have at least one map which is good for them and no more than one really bad -_- Well only 5/32 were protoss, which isn't very good. So i don't think they always get through. Last year on the same maps they didn't get through.
Last year they had 1 map which was good for them (HoV was decent) and 2 bad BOTH vs T and Z (LoC + Jungle) + LT which is slightly bad vs Z.
You forget that last years prelims were played on 2002's maps!
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On August 13 2004 12:46 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 11:46 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Even if boxer was more dominant it doesn't change anything! His style was more prone to fuckups and the like~~~~~
Second, I didn't mean to say they wouldn't lose a single game; what I meant was I don't think anyone will beat them in a bo 3, especially with gorky and khoral in there (gorky freewin vs p khoral advantage vs z). And XellOs and Midas have developed a style which is not 'prone to fuckups'? Are you sure BoxeRs loss was a consequence of his style? I don't know what the system will be in San Francisco, however I can bet with you if you want, that one of the Korean representatives will be eliminated by a foreigner. I can put money on that. Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 12:12 Sky101 wrote: On August 13 2004 10:47 tomson wrote: On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;; And did you see JoseZ and FroZ (twice) beating BoxeR 2 years prior? VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP.
I don't think you've heard of Blackmans exhibition game vs foru in Korea WCG 2002. 2 years is a loooooooooooong time bud. You're missing the point, 'bud'. Are you suggesting that the skill gap between foreigners and Korean progamers has drastically increased over the last 2 years ?
.. Yes a micro intensive player like BoxeR is much more prone to mistakes than a player relying much more on macro and safe play.
I don't think any of them will be eliminated this year but I wouldn't be shocked if they were...
I have no idea why you are even arguing this. IIRC FroZ even said that game 2 was mostly lost by boxer because he made some mistake that led to him losing 3-4 dships (long time ago so I don't remember exactly). I'm not saying this isn't something that can happen to anyone but I think it'd be LESS damaging to someone like xellos/ddang + they are both better at TvT and TvP than boxer etcetcetc.
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On August 13 2004 15:29 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote +On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Why? I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;; when im in shape i have no problem beating either one of those on these maps (not gorky) and if i can do it there's plenty of others who stand a decent chance
No problems as in 50/50 or no problems as in 'I expect to win 9 out of 10'?
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doesn't matter does it?
fact is they will lose games. every year koreans lose to foreigners and this year will be no different. in fact this year everything seems to be looking in favor of foreigners even more. no zergs + outside of Korea. it's pretty obvious you're full of shit FA
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You guys need to watch fOru vs saferzerg, games 1 and 3. both are amazing pvz games on gorky/chowchow.
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On August 14 2004 06:48 FrozenArbiter wrote:
.. Yes a micro intensive player like BoxeR is much more prone to mistakes than a player relying much more on macro and safe play.
Did BoxeR do anything unsafe in his games vs FroZ/JoseZ? Did he risk everything on a 'micro intensive' attack ? Did he place his buildings in a unorthodox place?
I'm not saying this isn't something that can happen to anyone but I think it'd be LESS damaging to someone like xellos/ddang + they are both better at TvT and TvP than boxer etcetcetc.
FA, FA, FA...
You're not actually reading what I've been typing. I never compared BoxeR to XellOs/Ddang in the present. What I pointed out is that BoxeR in 2002 was a way better player compared to the rest of the world than XellOs/Ddang are now to the current scene. And if I would question the possibility of BoxeR advancing from his group 2 years ago you would probably run in with this same confident attitude yelling that there's no way he would lose enough games in his group to make an actual threat.
And even with the BO3 system I still say foreigners will give Koreans a run for their money.
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yeah pvt gorky is so gay :/
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 14 2004 06:54 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: doesn't matter does it? fact is they will lose games. every year koreans lose to foreigners and this year will be no different. in fact this year everything seems to be looking in favor of foreigners even more. no zergs + outside of Korea. it's pretty obvious you're full of shit FA
What the hell have I said that warrants such a statement?
That question was serious btw, I didn't mean it in a condescending way.. I just meant 'do you think you could win the majority of your games or that you'd have an even chance of winning'...
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Sweden33719 Posts
I'm gonna read all my posts over again because obviously I've said something that everoyne misunderstood..
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On August 13 2004 06:50 FrozenArbiter wrote: There is NO z (probably not blackman either) who's going to stand a chance in ZvT vs any of the terrans, VERY few (blackman and uh.. PJ? I dunno) will be able to standup to foru ZvP. Not a single T will beat foru and that's a fact. What P do you think will beat xellos/ddang -.-? TvT ... LOL I think Z's are to be preferred since they are much weaker to cheese!
Oops I just found this post!!
Fine I deserve all my flames -_- I didn't even remember making it :D! My only defence is lack of sleep (48 hours with total of 6 hours of sleep).
It was mostly made in retortion to this though:
On August 13 2004 06:18 Breeze wrote:
If the zerg player doesn't get a spot, I see little chances for a korean to win wcg
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And don't forget about
On August 13 2004 06:37 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Why? I don't see anyone beating ddang or xellos -.- And most likely not foru either-_-;;
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Sweden33719 Posts
Oh man I wrote such a HUGE post and it's just gone I basically admitted I wasn't thinking -_-
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
you don't have to admit that
we all know
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Sweden33719 Posts
I'll try to write some of the stuff again (no it wasn't deleted I just got logged off while writing :[)
I started thinking about who could beat the terran('s if xellos qualfiies) since I really didn't do that yesterday, I was way too tired I just thought for 10 seconds and didn't come up with anyone so I posted.
TvT... Hm, I guess Elky, FroZ (does he play still and will he qualify?) and uhhhh, I hear Beast is good TvT. It doesn't seem like a lot of terran players will qualify from other countries because of dahlia/khoral and foreign top players mostly being P..
The russians were all T though, right? I guess androide could put up a good fight or even win if he's good TvT (or does he ZvT?).
Testie, if he even qualifies won't play TvT I'm almost certain, nor will any other race picker I think.
Is enjoy good enough? Is suker good TvT (if he qualifies)? I don't think either of these will beat either of the (potentially) 2 korean terrans.
I think I forgot some T's now, I remember my list was longer in my previous post.
As for Z's..Blackman as long as he doesn't get cheesed out of WCG (I hear it's single elim again..), same for tomson I guess (though I really don't know how good you are!)
Ret and Twisted if they practice back to top shape ! I recall ret saying he lost a lot to DDanGG so I dunno, and twisted is slightly worse/same ZvT than ret I think (forgive me Erwin if I'm wrong :D!!!!!)?
Does Testie play ZvT/is he good? (if he even qualifies) I don't think he would win though~~
I really don't know how good mondragon is, especially on WCG maps. Since he has almost no LAN experience (or maybe he has tons of LAN experience in germany), or at least nothing really big I don't think he'd win.
I dunno if any of the racepickers will do ZvT/are good ZvT.
Again, my old list seemed to be longer so I probably forgot some.
I didn't even mention P's intially since there's so many good P's..
However, it was also because I didn't think too many P's would qualify because of Dahlia PvZ and (close spots) PvT Chow Chow + Gorky park PvT and pvz khoral which, while not impossible, is slightly harder on toss than zerg.
But then again, what Z is gonna threaten to knockout nazgul (ret and twisted but holland has 4 spots iirc), Rekrul (4 spots and no really good zergs to worry about) or Grrr (4 spots and only like testie to worry about in the zerg department). Strafe will also most likely go through since holland has 4 spots and only, as far as I know, 4 really good players.
Nazgul isn't in shape (unless he has regained his skills really quickly) so I don't think he will beat them, same with Grrr since as far as I know he doesn't even have a team right now? I don't think strafe would win a BO3 but who knows! If he gets khoral and dahlia I guess it's not impossible. I guess rekrul could beat them if he gets good maps ^_^
Then there's Pj, Cou and hm.. Is Destroyer good? Does germany have any good P's (fisheye quit right? and how many spots do you get?)?
PJ I guess could win a BO3 though I wasn't too impressed by his WCG map play at -_-;; Dunno about Cou, I think the korean T's might be too stable for his playstyle.
I guess sys is still good.. Any good spaniard P's? Maybe hellghost (I dunno if he ZvT's or PvT's) but I'm not sure if he's good enough! Then again, he has the advantage of being able to pick race depending on maps..
I haven't seen too much of sYs PvT so I don't know if he's good, just going of reputation on this one. Zelotito isn't too great PvT I've heard... Hellghost has never really impressed me PvT..
Hm, I seem to be forgetting lots of players from my original list again..
I guess drone, trek and hellghost all could do good, especially because of their race picking~~
Anyways, yeah I guess there's plenty of players that could win a single game/possibly a bo 3 depending on maps).. I still don't think they will (win a bo3 that is) :D! But I just like most korean players more than foreign o.o
Oh yah, and after watching foru vs saferzerg I'm not so sure about foru's PvZ :///
That was really bad -_-;;;
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On August 14 2004 07:32 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 14 2004 06:48 FrozenArbiter wrote:
.. Yes a micro intensive player like BoxeR is much more prone to mistakes than a player relying much more on macro and safe play. Did BoxeR do anything unsafe in his games vs FroZ/JoseZ? Did he risk everything on a 'micro intensive' attack ? Did he place his buildings in a unorthodox place?
He did say he underestimated his opponents but yeah you are right.
[QUOTE] I'm not saying this isn't something that can happen to anyone but I think it'd be LESS damaging to someone like xellos/ddang + they are both better at TvT and TvP than boxer etcetcetc. [QUOTE]
FA, FA, FA...
You're not actually reading what I've been typing. I never compared BoxeR to XellOs/Ddang in the present. What I pointed out is that BoxeR in 2002 was a way better player compared to the rest of the world than XellOs/Ddang are now to the current scene. And if I would question the possibility of BoxeR advancing from his group 2 years ago you would probably run in with this same confident attitude yelling that there's no way he would lose enough games in his group to make an actual threat.
And even with the BO3 system I still say foreigners will give Koreans a run for their money. [/QUOTE]
I didn't mean to come off as 'yelling'! And if you would have said that I would have disagreed but only because I'm a boxer fanboy
And yeah a run for their money I'm sure they will give o_o
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U really needa get out more chief.
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On August 14 2004 09:25 FrozenArbiter wrote:
As for Z's..Blackman as long as he doesn't get cheesed out of WCG (I hear it's single elim again..)
It has always been DE bo1. This year isn't an exception.
same for tomson I guess (though I really don't know how good you are!)
I don't know either. I think I have a good shot, seeing as I don't see anyone practising hard. But with WCG Poland you never know.
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On August 14 2004 06:54 NuclearAntelope wrote:
You guys need to watch fOru vs saferzerg, games 1 and 3. both are amazing pvz games on gorky/chowchow.
I hope ur not serious. Ok i liked his chow chow style but it was a rape so it wasn't an amazing game just amazing strategy. And in Gorky the zerg completely fucks up. If you want more amazing strategies; Check Foru vs Goodfriend@ Korhal and Kingdom vs Niza @ Korhal.
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On August 14 2004 10:51 tomson wrote: Show nested quote +On August 14 2004 09:25 FrozenArbiter wrote:
As for Z's..Blackman as long as he doesn't get cheesed out of WCG (I hear it's single elim again..)
It has always been DE bo1. This year isn't an exception. I don't know either. I think I have a good shot, seeing as I don't see anyone practising hard. But with WCG Poland you never know.
Ooops I meant Bo1 not single elim
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On August 14 2004 12:01 Babar wrote: Show nested quote +On August 14 2004 06:54 NuclearAntelope wrote:
You guys need to watch fOru vs saferzerg, games 1 and 3. both are amazing pvz games on gorky/chowchow. I hope ur not serious. Ok i liked his chow chow style but it was a rape so it wasn't an amazing game just amazing strategy. And in Gorky the zerg completely fucks up. If you want more amazing strategies; Check Foru vs Goodfriend@ Korhal and Kingdom vs Niza @ Korhal.
It was a RAPE? Are you unable to acknowledge that fOru was LOSING in that game? Even in the end, he had no money left, if saferzerg had the resources to just stop that last carrier assault, he would have won. I agree that saferzerg did not play 100% of what he could have played like on gorky, but when you consider the imbalance of zvp on gorky, it was actually pretty good. fOru just raped goodfriend on korhal, he correctly adapted to carriers and just owned him after that. All of those goliaths had no chance. On dahlia, there was a bit of reaver micro, and nothing but rape afterwards.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
foru's pvt is very very good
his pvz is total trash
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
[B]On August 14 2004 09:25 FrozenArbiter wrote: insert gigantic spam post with meaningless banter about the possibilities of xellos losing here
take a deep breath
keep holding
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Sweden33719 Posts
Yeah god I'm becoming more and more like reaper this is shameful -_-
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
hey atleast you addressed me properly
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On August 14 2004 12:32 NuclearAntelope wrote: Show nested quote +On August 14 2004 12:01 Babar wrote: On August 14 2004 06:54 NuclearAntelope wrote:
You guys need to watch fOru vs saferzerg, games 1 and 3. both are amazing pvz games on gorky/chowchow. I hope ur not serious. Ok i liked his chow chow style but it was a rape so it wasn't an amazing game just amazing strategy. And in Gorky the zerg completely fucks up. If you want more amazing strategies; Check Foru vs Goodfriend@ Korhal and Kingdom vs Niza @ Korhal. It was a RAPE? Are you unable to acknowledge that fOru was LOSING in that game? Even in the end, he had no money left, if saferzerg had the resources to just stop that last carrier assault, he would have won. I agree that saferzerg did not play 100% of what he could have played like on gorky, but when you consider the imbalance of zvp on gorky, it was actually pretty good. fOru just raped goodfriend on korhal, he correctly adapted to carriers and just owned him after that. All of those goliaths had no chance. On dahlia, there was a bit of reaver micro, and nothing but rape afterwards.
Ok i was talking about other Chow chow game vs another zerg where he zealot rushed from 5 to 1 positions, my bad. But it was painful to watch how the zerg lost the game @ gorky after he had it.
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On August 14 2004 12:42 [pG]Rekrul wrote:
hey atleast you addressed me properly
Yeah it's a start, god.
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Sweden1368 Posts
ForU played nice against MinGu though, very cute, and very good control in the dahlia-game
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Just to adress the Korean-foreigner discussion..ForU will be the hardest to beat.Xellos and Midas will both lose.I wonder if I shouldnt practice ZvP Dahlia and Kohral...
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On August 15 2004 01:03 Beast_Bg wrote:
Just to adress the Korean-foreigner discussion..ForU will be the hardest to beat.Xellos and Midas will both lose.I wonder if I shouldnt practice ZvP Dahlia and Kohral...
Yea i think so too... Foru wont loose there. Only can loose at Gorky Pvt.
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Well.. Everyone can lose and actually the maps aren't that bad for T once you get to know them(after 200-300 games..),but still it's a tournament and ppl make mistakes.ForU is not just a progamer..He's a machine PvT.He won't make big mistakes.And only 1 stupid mistake from the T player on those 2 maps can cost him the game.But we'll see.
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Sweden1225 Posts
I haven't read the thread much but I think this years koreans seem harder to beat than the ones last year.
I suppose it's natural to assume koreans will lose a game or two, is that what the discussion is about here btw? =O
What someone said about Boxer being better compared to the rest in 2002 is something I disagree with. These players are so good KAKA.
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beast your good but to say Xellos will just flat out lose?
I hope you get spawned into his group so I can see how this statement holds up.
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Norway28678 Posts
I'm not a racepicker
I will random in every single game.
which imo gives me a better chance at beating the koreans. if I get the matchup and locations I want I can beat everyone, no question about it. I do depend on luck, but hey I tend to get lucky.
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2 T's and 1 P from korea~! haha i think china will do very this year ^_^
gogo China~!
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On August 15 2004 17:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: I'm not a racepicker I will random in every single game. which imo gives me a better chance at beating the koreans. if I get the matchup and locations I want I can beat everyone, no question about it. I do depend on luck, but hey I tend to get lucky.
You're our only hope! Kekekekeke
Luck > Skill -_-v
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Boxer was more of a dominant force in 01 (where he did go undefeated) than 02. It's conceivable that forU will lose on Dahlia or Korhal. After all who thought Boxer would lose two games on Valhalla in 02.
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On August 15 2004 17:16 Ace wrote: beast your good but to say Xellos will just flat out lose? I hope you get spawned into his group so I can see how this statement holds up.
Actually I hope so ,too.
edit:I meant he will get beaten at least once, but its more funny this way anyway...
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After actually watching the replays...
ForU didn't impress me at all.I'm not even taking the final ,where he lost on purpose.I thought he would be a greater challenge ,but I'm not so sure anymore.
Xellos played nice vs Nada ,but nice as macro and micro go.He made a couple of tactical mistakes,letting Nada contain him sooo easy.Really good nevertheless, but nothing incredible from a progamer.
Midas was incredibly good TvZ, but I can't make my mind about his TvP and TvT skills yet.He deserved his first place ,imo.
Overall, I think there is a higher probability of a non-korean winning this year, than the opposite.
Edit: And by the way, I liked many of the zerg players a lot from what I saw, and its amazing how none of them qualified.I guess Midas TvZ skills are to blame.
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On August 15 2004 01:15 Beast_Bg wrote:
Well.. Everyone can lose and actually the maps aren't that bad for T once you get to know them(after 200-300 games..),but still it's a tournament and ppl make mistakes.ForU is not just a progamer..He's a machine PvT.He won't make big mistakes.And only 1 stupid mistake from the T player on those 2 maps can cost him the game.But we'll see.
"Actually not bad"?
They are good for T except Dahlia TvP, Khoral TvP and Gorky TvZ. I thought they were great in all other matchups?
It's a question btw, since I only play PvT PvZ TvP and not TvZ~
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On August 15 2004 17:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: I'm not a racepicker I will random in every single game. which imo gives me a better chance at beating the koreans. if I get the matchup and locations I want I can beat everyone, no question about it. I do depend on luck, but hey I tend to get lucky.
Yeah I just lumped you together with them
Go win wcg !
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out here no one really doubts that there could be a possibility of the koreans losing lolz
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midas is actually known for his mech skills and his tvz skills are known rather to be pretty bad. (but i guess not)
anyway, kingdom vs july game 3 is the funniest
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Frozen-->Read more carefully.
"Just to adress the Korean-foreigner discussion..ForU will be the hardest to beat.Xellos and Midas will both lose.I wonder if I shouldnt practice ZvP Dahlia and Kohral...
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"Yea i think so too... Foru wont loose there. Only can loose at Gorky Pvt."
"Well.. Everyone can lose and actually the maps aren't that bad for T once you get to know them(after 200-300 games..),but still it's a tournament and ppl make mistakes.ForU is not just a progamer..He's a machine PvT.He won't make big mistakes.And only 1 stupid mistake from the T player on those 2 maps can cost him the game.But we'll see.
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And I meant Dahlia and Kohral TvP of course.
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