How can you say that? Hell this time even stats back me up.
Go look up ZvP ELOs. You see Calm (horrible slump), July (gone), Effort (gone), Hyuk (horrible slump), Juni (wtf?) in the top10.

Who else apart from the names mentioned are good ZvPers?

Lightwip

United States5497 Posts

November 07 2010 19:40 GMT

#743

On November 08 2010 04:35 Holgerius wrote:

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SuperArc's philosophy; no one is ever good at anything, there are just different levels of bad.

Except CJ and Jaedong.

I'll have to watch the game again, but really there wasn't much wrong with Bisu's play. The ling runby was a result of some major skimping.

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

November 07 2010 19:45 GMT

#744

On November 08 2010 04:39 SuperArc wrote:

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I say that because you use that way of thinking quite a lot.

yanmaodao

United States430 Posts

November 07 2010 19:49 GMT

#745

On November 08 2010 04:39 SuperArc wrote:

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Shine does not have good ZvP. He's below 50% in the matchup with over 40 games played, which is really inexcusable for an A-team zerg. I'd take Calm over him. A slumping Calm is probably at least as consistent vP as an in-form Shine, and a resurgent Calm would be scary.

Hazard

Norway594 Posts

November 07 2010 20:57 GMT

#746

Excuses, excuses...falling behind and winning - comeback. But it doesn't matter how (P)

Bisu played as long as he won cuz winners just have to play a little better than losers. If Hyuk's ZvT is ridiculously weak, his opponents let him getting Hyuked by himself

Sux to see (Z)

s2 crying after his loss.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

November 07 2010 23:50 GMT

#747

the problem wtih bisu's play that game was just that he was very close to being denied a 3rd expo and starved to death. he was too insistent on attacking, which would have been his undoing had the zerg not waste his mutas or expanded/macroed better. he even said in the interview that he misjudged his position in the game.

of course, this is not to say that he didn't play well or isn't good. it's just that this particular game isn't anything to get excited about.

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

November 08 2010 04:49 GMT

#748

On November 08 2010 08:50 oneofthem wrote:
the problem wtih bisu's play that game was just that he was very close to being denied a 3rd expo and starved to death. he was too insistent on attacking, which would have been his undoing had the zerg not waste his mutas or expanded/macroed better. he even said in the interview that he misjudged his position in the game.

of course, this is not to say that he didn't play well or isn't good. it's just that this particular game isn't anything to get excited about.

Shine had a low saturation of drones and was going allin by pumping units non-stop. Bisu was in no real danger of losing the game, taking a fast third would be suicidal against Shine's strategy. Had Shine expanded, Bisu would've destroyed him for sure..