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yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
November 07 2010 07:28 GMT
#701
On November 07 2010 16:20 dtvu wrote:
Best is dedicated to winning on central plain - only central plain.


Didn't Best beat Flash on Icarus, thus spearheading the belief that that map is very P>>T?

(When it's only 13-10, reasonable given the inherent T>Z>P>T in BW. Truly uberbalanced maps like MP are rare. T is spoiled from last season's maps, methinks, they think T>Z 56% P>T 51% maps are "normal". We'll see how it plays out as the sample size gets larger.)
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:28 GMT
#702
On November 07 2010 16:24 trifecta wrote:
skt is crazy deep

still, given the team's reputation...I still find it mind-boggling that they basically have
1 main terran
2 main tosses
and 3 main zergs (soo/s2/kwanro)
and 1 2nd-stringer of each race (ssak, by.sun, hyuk <-unfortunately)
there's canata too but I have a feeling he's close to retiring
well maybe he won't if he gets a bit farther in the MSL this time
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
November 07 2010 07:29 GMT
#703
On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu

shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified

Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best

Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa

Baby > Fantasy

after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs

[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]

skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname

WeMade > SKT

skt ez game


I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3
SKT still going undefeated :3
Nothing worth having comes easy.
SaikOuLighT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada742 Posts
November 07 2010 07:30 GMT
#704
Damn SKT and Bisu both undefeated o.O, and I think their last few matches in R1 are the weaker teams so it might stay that way.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:33 GMT
#705
On November 07 2010 16:29 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu

shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified

Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best

Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa

Baby > Fantasy

after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs

[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]

skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname

WeMade > SKT

skt ez game


I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3
SKT still going undefeated :3

SKT has ACE, STX, and Hwaseung left.

Even if those teams are in form, I'd say SKT is the favorite in all 3 matches. It's very possible that SKT could complete a perfect round.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 07 2010 07:34 GMT
#706
All these zergs that have to suffer through fighting Bisu are really trying hard to do something amazing to beat him.
Seriously, I never expected great and to a lesser extent Shine to play like they did.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 07 2010 07:57 GMT
#707
Thanks Craton for streaming, especially the picture in picture.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 07 2010 07:59 GMT
#708
t1 undefeated 6-0 24/12
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
November 07 2010 08:04 GMT
#709
I wanted to see a Best vT.

Ideally, Mind for whacking the MafiaZerg from OSL.

Mirror matches are bleh.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
November 07 2010 08:06 GMT
#710
On November 07 2010 16:15 nayumi wrote:
for the entire game i thought best was red :/


lol same thing happened to me while watching msl wildcard. it feels bad cheering for the wrong guy
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
November 07 2010 08:11 GMT
#711
Whats up with the 7th game being reccomended as the best of the year when there is none?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9805 Posts
November 07 2010 09:10 GMT
#712
On November 07 2010 15:08 seRapH wrote:
s2 gg's. dammittt

well now skt will win next 2 in a row

boomer hands
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
November 07 2010 09:48 GMT
#713
On November 07 2010 16:29 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu

shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified

Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best

Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa

Baby > Fantasy

after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs

[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]

skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname

WeMade > SKT

skt ez game


I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3
SKT still going undefeated :3


This is what happens when Shine tries new things instead of just all ining with hydra + mutas (or just pure hydras). If he spent the resources on lurkers on pure hydras, he would have had the game when the first bust came about >
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 07 2010 10:24 GMT
#714
On November 07 2010 16:24 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:15 Kentor wrote:
ugh why did he do a snsd ceremony -_-

it makes his fans happy?

remember what best got after doing the Miss A ceremony?

yeap.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
November 07 2010 10:54 GMT
#715
Ssak did pretty good and hope to see him play more in PL along with Canata cuz it's hard for Fanta to carry Terran line on his shoulders alone.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
November 07 2010 10:59 GMT
#716
I guess we've entered another cycle of Bisu pulling away in PvZ and zergs catching up to him. After 2007 and late 2008 this is the third period he is looking so insanely dominant in the MU
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 07 2010 11:04 GMT
#717
On November 07 2010 16:21 yanmaodao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:
On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.

New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.

Best > WMFrandomterran





No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup


Well yeah, okay. I'm aware of the stats, but many of them have played such a small sample of games that stats don't mean as much as what we judge from watching their gameplay from select matches. I'm saying that as someone who usually trusts in the evening-out effect of long-term stats and am skeptical of the typical anti-statistics arguments.

SK's vP is 7-5, for instance, which is technically 58%. But if that means his vP is better than the vT clinic he just put on against Sea, then, for instance, Hydra's 8-5, 60%+ vT must mean he's better than Yarnc. Classic's 60%+ record after 20 games must mean he's as good as Stork or Fantasy. SK's last two games against Bisu and Snow inspired neither confidence nor the idea that he's aware that units exist other than lings that he can use in the matchup.

I don't know. When JD first started out, he was a vT sniper who was horrible at vP. So we'll see. In the long term, zergs will always be stronger against P than T, I suppose, at least in BW.


all big zergs started with ZvT being their speciality
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2122 Posts
November 07 2010 11:07 GMT
#718
On November 07 2010 17:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Whats up with the 7th game being reccomended as the best of the year when there is none?

It's just so that silly people don't spoiler themselves by going:
"I opened the spoiler for the 7th game recommendation and it was EMPTY! Now I know that there was no 7th game so I know the outcome of the 6th game. Boohoo."
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
November 07 2010 11:59 GMT
#719
Pretty hard to beat SKT when FBB is winning.

Has any team ever gone unbeaten in a round before?
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 07 2010 12:31 GMT
#720
On November 07 2010 19:59 disciple wrote:
I guess we've entered another cycle of Bisu pulling away in PvZ and zergs catching up to him. After 2007 and late 2008 this is the third period he is looking so insanely dominant in the MU


yeah seriously... everytime this happens and the zergs catch up i'm fooled into thinking that is that. not bisu though...
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