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On November 07 2010 16:20 dtvu wrote:
Best is dedicated to winning on central plain - only central plain.
Didn't Best beat Flash on Icarus, thus spearheading the belief that that map is very P>>T?
(When it's only 13-10, reasonable given the inherent T>Z>P>T in BW. Truly uberbalanced maps like MP are rare. T is spoiled from last season's maps, methinks, they think T>Z 56% P>T 51% maps are "normal".  We'll see how it plays out as the sample size gets larger.)
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On November 07 2010 16:24 trifecta wrote:
skt is crazy deep
still, given the team's reputation...I still find it mind-boggling that they basically have
1 main terran
2 main tosses
and 3 main zergs (soo/s2/kwanro)
and 1 2nd-stringer of each race (ssak, by.sun, hyuk <-unfortunately)
there's canata too but I have a feeling he's close to retiring
well maybe he won't if he gets a bit farther in the MSL this time
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On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu
shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified
Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best
Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa
Baby > Fantasy
after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs
[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]
skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname
WeMade > SKT
skt ez game
I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3
SKT still going undefeated :3
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Damn SKT and Bisu both undefeated o.O, and I think their last few matches in R1 are the weaker teams so it might stay that way.
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On November 07 2010 16:29 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu
shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified
Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best
Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa
Baby > Fantasy
after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs
[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]
skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname
WeMade > SKT
skt ez game I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3 SKT still going undefeated :3
SKT has ACE, STX, and Hwaseung left.
Even if those teams are in form, I'd say SKT is the favorite in all 3 matches. It's very possible that SKT could complete a perfect round.
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All these zergs that have to suffer through fighting Bisu are really trying hard to do something amazing to beat him.
Seriously, I never expected great and to a lesser extent Shine to play like they did.
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Thanks Craton for streaming, especially the picture in picture.
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I wanted to see a Best vT. 
Ideally, Mind for whacking the MafiaZerg from OSL.
Mirror matches are bleh.
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On November 07 2010 16:15 nayumi wrote:
for the entire game i thought best was red :/
lol same thing happened to me while watching msl wildcard. it feels bad cheering for the wrong guy
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Whats up with the 7th game being reccomended as the best of the year when there is none?
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On November 07 2010 15:08 seRapH wrote:s2 gg's. dammittt well now skt will win next 2 in a row
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On November 07 2010 16:29 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 07:46 Milkis wrote:
Shine > Bisu
shine makes hydras, Bisu gets flashbacks and shudders in fear and pauses the game without pp to get disqualified
Roro > Best. Alternatively, Pure > Best
Dosairs will rule the skies tonight, or Pure will show he is the new pvp bonjwa
Baby > Fantasy
after a game filled with vulture harass fantasy gets out multitasked and ggs
[insert random wemade B Teamer] > [insert random skt zerg]
skt zerg shows how they earned the nickname
WeMade > SKT
skt ez game I like how a Bisu vs Shine game actually happened. Too bad though. BISUUUUUUUUUU <3 SKT still going undefeated :3
This is what happens when Shine tries new things instead of just all ining with hydra + mutas (or just pure hydras). If he spent the resources on lurkers on pure hydras, he would have had the game when the first bust came about >
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On November 07 2010 16:24 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 16:15 Kentor wrote:
ugh why did he do a snsd ceremony -_- it makes his fans happy?
remember what best got after doing the Miss A ceremony?
yeap.
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Ssak did pretty good and hope to see him play more in PL along with Canata cuz it's hard for Fanta to carry Terran line on his shoulders alone.
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I guess we've entered another cycle of Bisu pulling away in PvZ and zergs catching up to him. After 2007 and late 2008 this is the third period he is looking so insanely dominant in the MU
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On November 07 2010 16:21 yanmaodao wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 15:59 SubtleArt wrote:On November 07 2010 15:55 yanmaodao wrote:
Is it just me, or does this generation of zergs really how to play ZvT? Action, Soo, and Soulkey all have ZvT as strong as if not stronger than ZvP, it seems.
New maps may play a role, though. Turtling on four-ish bases doesn't work if the other guy can take 10. Mapmakers responding properly to mid-2010 imba late game turtle TvZ.
Best > WMFrandomterran
No, nobody can ZvT better than they can ZvP, even these guys, Soulkey's ZvP is better than his ZvT and same with Soo (go check TLPD). Then again I wouldn;'t call soo anything cause he's inconsistent as fuck, and mind played horribly. As for action, his ZvT hasn't been anything special recently. Unfortunately all he's good at in the matchup is defiler usage but the general trend for terrans is to pressure earlier now (as opposed to camp in base --> push at 9 minutes used almost every game 2 years ago) and in the late game switch to mech, both of which diminish the role of defilers in the matchup Well yeah, okay. I'm aware of the stats, but many of them have played such a small sample of games that stats don't mean as much as what we judge from watching their gameplay from select matches. I'm saying that as someone who usually trusts in the evening-out effect of long-term stats and am skeptical of the typical anti-statistics arguments. SK's vP is 7-5, for instance, which is technically 58%. But if that means his vP is better than the vT clinic he just put on against Sea, then, for instance, Hydra's 8-5, 60%+ vT must mean he's better than Yarnc. Classic's 60%+ record after 20 games must mean he's as good as Stork or Fantasy. SK's last two games against Bisu and Snow inspired neither confidence nor the idea that he's aware that units exist other than lings that he can use in the matchup. I don't know. When JD first started out, he was a vT sniper who was horrible at vP. So we'll see. In the long term, zergs will always be stronger against P than T, I suppose, at least in BW.
all big zergs started with ZvT being their speciality
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On November 07 2010 17:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
Whats up with the 7th game being reccomended as the best of the year when there is none?
It's just so that silly people don't spoiler themselves by going:
"I opened the spoiler for the 7th game recommendation and it was EMPTY! Now I know that there was no 7th game so I know the outcome of the 6th game. Boohoo."
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Pretty hard to beat SKT when FBB is winning.
Has any team ever gone unbeaten in a round before?
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On November 07 2010 19:59 disciple wrote:
I guess we've entered another cycle of Bisu pulling away in PvZ and zergs catching up to him. After 2007 and late 2008 this is the third period he is looking so insanely dominant in the MU
yeah seriously... everytime this happens and the zergs catch up i'm fooled into thinking that is that. not bisu though...
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