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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 28 2010 13:17 GMT
#3461
On August 28 2010 22:12 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 21:09 BloodDrunK wrote:
so this win means Flash is back on top of PR next month right?


Unless he gets raped in the OSL


PR's coming out before then, or atleast it should. If he gets destroyed in OSL then he'll lose the #1 spot october. He's a shoe in for the september PR, now, though.
Remember Violet.
nimoraca
Profile Joined February 2007
Serbia84 Posts
August 28 2010 13:20 GMT
#3462
On August 28 2010 21:34 shalafi wrote:
I just see:

JD won every game on the maps with <55% TvZ win ratio. Flash did on the ones >55%.


Batoo OSl 2008, Jaedong won on zerg favoured maps, and he won 3-2, meaning Fantasy is actually better than Jae. Yeah right...
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
August 28 2010 13:22 GMT
#3463
Grats Flash, you deserve the win.

I was hoping JD would win tho . Im glad he was able to get a grip after being down 0-2 and take it to the 5th set, sadly it wasnt enough this time.

It was looking bad after the 2nd set but this JvF final turned out to be better than the previous two, but apart from set 3 the games were a bit "meh" IMO.

Ohh well, hoping for Stork vs JD in the OSL finals!!! p:p
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 28 2010 13:23 GMT
#3464
On August 28 2010 22:22 Rokevo wrote:

Ohh well, hoping for Stork vs JD in the OSL finals!!! p:p


Stork and Jd are playing in the semifinals of the OSL. =\
Remember Violet.
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
August 28 2010 13:24 GMT
#3465
Games 1 and 3 were really good. JD could've had game 5 and the series.

On the up-side, at least Flash fans can't enjoy Flash's games as much as JD fans enjoy JD's, since Zerg is an inherently more interesting race that requires flanking and beautiful orchestration to succeed.
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
August 28 2010 13:30 GMT
#3466
On August 28 2010 22:24 grax wrote:
Games 1 and 3 were really good. JD could've had game 5 and the series.

On the up-side, at least Flash fans can't enjoy Flash's games as much as JD fans enjoy JD's, since Zerg is an inherently more interesting race that requires flanking and beautiful orchestration to succeed.


Yes, god forbid people actually enjoy watching their favorite terran's games.

What?
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 13:33:53
August 28 2010 13:31 GMT
#3467
On August 28 2010 22:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 22:22 Rokevo wrote:

Ohh well, hoping for Stork vs JD in the OSL finals!!! p:p


Stork and Jd are playing in the semifinals of the OSL. =\


Ahh yeah your right, for some reason I was thinking it was Flash vs Stork and JD vs free T_T

meh, epic Stork vs JD semis then haha :p
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 28 2010 13:32 GMT
#3468
On August 28 2010 22:24 grax wrote:
Games 1 and 3 were really good. JD could've had game 5 and the series.

On the up-side, at least Flash fans can't enjoy Flash's games as much as JD fans enjoy JD's, since Zerg is an inherently more interesting race that requires flanking and beautiful orchestration to succeed.


Or maybe you're insane. "People can't like things that I don't like!!!"
Remember Violet.
LooseMoose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States184 Posts
August 28 2010 13:36 GMT
#3469
WTB more zerg favored maps
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 28 2010 13:38 GMT
#3470
On August 28 2010 22:24 grax wrote:
Games 1 and 3 were really good. JD could've had game 5 and the series.

On the up-side, at least Flash fans can't enjoy Flash's games as much as JD fans enjoy JD's, since Zerg is an inherently more interesting race that requires flanking and beautiful orchestration to succeed.



This must be the silliest thing written in this topic....and that's saying something.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 28 2010 13:44 GMT
#3471
Really sad to see JD lose. Didn't see the games but glad he at least got a few wins and almost pulled off the LLWWW.

When I saw which maps Flash won my saddness vanished and turned into a form of calm understanding mixed with a little rage.
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States409 Posts
August 28 2010 13:48 GMT
#3472
On August 28 2010 22:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Really sad to see JD lose. Didn't see the games but glad he at least got a few wins and almost pulled off the LLWWW.

When I saw which maps Flash won my saddness vanished and turned into a form of calm understanding mixed with a little rage.

JD would have easily won that last set if he just went an early aggressive build with lings. Unfortunately, he was too stubborn.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 28 2010 13:52 GMT
#3473
I don't understand people talking about JD winning the "Zerg favored maps."

LOOK AT THE STATS. He obviously had to be much, much better than Flash to win, given the map pool. And while he is better than Flash, IMHO, the margin is razor thin and definitely is not more than the map pool.

Congrats to Flash, no one is doubting he is great, I just wanted to see this final with a better map pool. JD isn't out of it.
One Love
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 28 2010 13:55 GMT
#3474
On August 28 2010 22:31 Rokevo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 22:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:22 Rokevo wrote:

Ohh well, hoping for Stork vs JD in the OSL finals!!! p:p


Stork and Jd are playing in the semifinals of the OSL. =\


Ahh yeah your right, for some reason I was thinking it was Flash vs Stork and JD vs free T_T

meh, epic Stork vs JD semis then haha :p


You can hope for epic Stork vs free finals :p
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 28 2010 13:58 GMT
#3475
On August 28 2010 22:52 Sleight wrote:
I don't understand people talking about JD winning the "Zerg favored maps."

LOOK AT THE STATS. He obviously had to be much, much better than Flash to win, given the map pool. And while he is better than Flash, IMHO, the margin is razor thin and definitely is not more than the map pool.

Congrats to Flash, no one is doubting he is great, I just wanted to see this final with a better map pool. JD isn't out of it.

Jaedong took such a high risk Game5 that was specifically tailored to beat bio --> mech. Flash is Flash though, and once that fourth went down the first time, the balance tipped in favor of Flash.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 14:03:27
August 28 2010 14:01 GMT
#3476
On August 28 2010 22:55 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 22:31 Rokevo wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:23 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:22 Rokevo wrote:

Ohh well, hoping for Stork vs JD in the OSL finals!!! p:p


Stork and Jd are playing in the semifinals of the OSL. =\


Ahh yeah your right, for some reason I was thinking it was Flash vs Stork and JD vs free T_T

meh, epic Stork vs JD semis then haha :p


You can hope for epic Stork vs free finals :p


I'm hoping for that honestly, just for the WTF double surprise factor.

That'd be a refreshing final compare to the dead obvious Flash JaeDong again, not that it wouldn't be good. Fly-On-Dreamliner is 30-70 unbalanced but whatever.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 14:08:54
August 28 2010 14:03 GMT
#3477
Dealing with "what ifs" is stupid. You take a gamble and if it doesn't work, you look like an idiot but if works its going to pay off greatly. The audience knows what both players are doing but that's not the case for Flash or Jaedong.

On August 28 2010 22:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Really sad to see JD lose. Didn't see the games but glad he at least got a few wins and almost pulled off the LLWWW.

When I saw which maps Flash won my saddness vanished and turned into a form of calm understanding mixed with a little rage.


While the maps themselves influenced the builds they used, I don't think map imba wasn't really honestly an issue here especially in Game 4. Ver once again proves himself right by saying that Jaedong's decision making is solid but generally not exceptional...I generally felt in many of the games Jaedong lost many opportunities that *may* have been enough for him to win the game but didn't either because of greed, overconfidence, or simply because idea didn't pop into his mind at the time.

A side note: I think your sig needs some updating...
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 28 2010 14:10 GMT
#3478
On August 28 2010 23:03 Womwomwom wrote:


A side note: I think your sig needs some updating...


You're right. With the JD/Flash rivalry I should remove Flash since it's near impossible to root for both now.

Unless you mean Upmagic. But ofc you don't since he is an absolute baller still and the game-fixing just proves he was still a genius and didn't start losing a lot b/c he couldn't own shit up.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 28 2010 14:12 GMT
#3479
omfg game three is so fucking good
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 28 2010 14:13 GMT
#3480
Aw...I wanted Jaedong to win the MSL and Flash to take the OSL. Congrats to both players for showing us an awesome series~
this is my quote.
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