On August 28 2010 20:49 Sea.JustGod wrote:
what's the name of the song???
what's the name of the song???
faber drive- I'll be there
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Xkalibert
United States1404 Posts
August 28 2010 12:24 GMT
#3441
On August 28 2010 20:49 Sea.JustGod wrote: what's the name of the song??? faber drive- I'll be there | ||
krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 28 2010 12:25 GMT
#3442
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
August 28 2010 12:26 GMT
#3443
On August 28 2010 21:25 krndandaman wrote: Not really.Show nested quote + On August 28 2010 21:18 Severedevil wrote: On August 28 2010 21:14 Pvvned wrote: On August 28 2010 21:11 deafhobbit wrote: On August 28 2010 21:02 Goragoth wrote: If anyone has any example games of 12hat winning against 14cc (excluding aggressive zergling all-in followups like EffOrt did in the OSL final) I would be very interested to see some VODs. It really looks like it is virtually impossible because Terran ends up with such a strong early mid-game push off two bases that seems unstoppable for Zerg. Except i think efforts play in that OSL was the perfect response. I don't think committing to a kill attempt is necessary, but spamming zerglings to punish the 14cc seems like a solid response. Zerglings seem to be about the only viable response out there to end it in the early game. Anything else will just get raped in the mid/late-game (barring mishaps from the terran or absolute perfect execution from the zerg). I don't think the problem is or ever was 14CC, with or without scouting. It's the maps that allow Terran a perfect wall-in with 2 depots and a barracks. On such a map, Terran doesn't need any defense for the first five minutes of the game. I still want to see JD drone scout --> 4 hatch before pool against Flash's scout --> 14 CC, but w/e. no need for 4hatch. tech is too late and you dont need all that extra larvae. plus terran can do damage with the extremely late pool. 3hatch before pool is already a soft counter to 14cc anyways It's more like "break even". | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
August 28 2010 12:26 GMT
#3444
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
August 28 2010 12:26 GMT
#3445
On August 28 2010 21:25 krndandaman wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2010 21:18 Severedevil wrote: On August 28 2010 21:14 Pvvned wrote: On August 28 2010 21:11 deafhobbit wrote: On August 28 2010 21:02 Goragoth wrote: If anyone has any example games of 12hat winning against 14cc (excluding aggressive zergling all-in followups like EffOrt did in the OSL final) I would be very interested to see some VODs. It really looks like it is virtually impossible because Terran ends up with such a strong early mid-game push off two bases that seems unstoppable for Zerg. Except i think efforts play in that OSL was the perfect response. I don't think committing to a kill attempt is necessary, but spamming zerglings to punish the 14cc seems like a solid response. Zerglings seem to be about the only viable response out there to end it in the early game. Anything else will just get raped in the mid/late-game (barring mishaps from the terran or absolute perfect execution from the zerg). I don't think the problem is or ever was 14CC, with or without scouting. It's the maps that allow Terran a perfect wall-in with 2 depots and a barracks. On such a map, Terran doesn't need any defense for the first five minutes of the game. I still want to see JD drone scout --> 4 hatch before pool against Flash's scout --> 14 CC, but w/e. no need for 4hatch. tech is too late and you dont need all that extra larvae. plus terran can do damage with the extremely late pool. 3hatch before pool is already a soft counter to 14cc anyways 3hatch before pool is a soft counter to rax expand... | ||
King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
August 28 2010 12:30 GMT
#3446
On August 28 2010 21:26 nayumi wrote: anyone doing the interview? I think smix is. | ||
Emon_
3925 Posts
August 28 2010 12:32 GMT
#3447
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Ideas
United States8104 Posts
August 28 2010 12:32 GMT
#3448
Hopefully in the OSL final JD won't get PR twice again -_- | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
August 28 2010 12:34 GMT
#3449
On August 28 2010 21:30 King K. Rool wrote: I think smix is. oh yea flash won what was i thinking ? hehe | ||
shalafi
394 Posts
August 28 2010 12:34 GMT
#3450
JD won every game on the maps with <55% TvZ win ratio. Flash did on the ones >55%. | ||
Wonders
Australia753 Posts
August 28 2010 12:34 GMT
#3451
On August 28 2010 21:26 SuperArc wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2010 21:25 krndandaman wrote: On August 28 2010 21:18 Severedevil wrote: On August 28 2010 21:14 Pvvned wrote: On August 28 2010 21:11 deafhobbit wrote: On August 28 2010 21:02 Goragoth wrote: If anyone has any example games of 12hat winning against 14cc (excluding aggressive zergling all-in followups like EffOrt did in the OSL final) I would be very interested to see some VODs. It really looks like it is virtually impossible because Terran ends up with such a strong early mid-game push off two bases that seems unstoppable for Zerg. Except i think efforts play in that OSL was the perfect response. I don't think committing to a kill attempt is necessary, but spamming zerglings to punish the 14cc seems like a solid response. Zerglings seem to be about the only viable response out there to end it in the early game. Anything else will just get raped in the mid/late-game (barring mishaps from the terran or absolute perfect execution from the zerg). I don't think the problem is or ever was 14CC, with or without scouting. It's the maps that allow Terran a perfect wall-in with 2 depots and a barracks. On such a map, Terran doesn't need any defense for the first five minutes of the game. I still want to see JD drone scout --> 4 hatch before pool against Flash's scout --> 14 CC, but w/e. no need for 4hatch. tech is too late and you dont need all that extra larvae. plus terran can do damage with the extremely late pool. 3hatch before pool is already a soft counter to 14cc anyways 3hatch before pool is a soft counter to rax expand... I really don't think so. Rax finishes when the pool starts, just like for 8 rax vs 12 hatch 11 pool. The difference is that the terran won't be scouting so aggressively and the rax will be in the main, but on the other hand the economic disparity isn't as great. If terran scouts it first then he can pressure with marines and more than make back the economic disadvantage. If zerg scouts 13cc first he can't do anything. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
August 28 2010 12:36 GMT
#3452
On August 28 2010 21:34 shalafi wrote: I just see: JD won every game on the maps with <55% TvZ win ratio. Flash did on the ones >55%. ace analysis of these games brah | ||
Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
August 28 2010 12:42 GMT
#3453
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
August 28 2010 12:42 GMT
#3454
On August 28 2010 21:42 Lightwip wrote: They better have Flight-Dreamliner as the ace map in OSL. And Battle Royale as the second set? | ||
Grend
1600 Posts
August 28 2010 12:46 GMT
#3455
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
August 28 2010 12:52 GMT
#3456
On August 28 2010 21:46 Grend wrote: Looking forward to next month`s Power Rank! thats so mean... ![]() | ||
KristianJS
2107 Posts
August 28 2010 12:55 GMT
#3457
Overall great finals imo. When Flash lost the 4th set like that I nearly shat myself in fear of another effort-repeat. Spent the whole 5th set screaming non-stop "Flash I believe in you, push out hard!!!" etc. haha. | ||
Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
August 28 2010 13:04 GMT
#3458
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synapse
China13814 Posts
August 28 2010 13:12 GMT
#3459
On August 28 2010 21:09 BloodDrunK wrote: so this win means Flash is back on top of PR next month right? Unless he gets raped in the OSL | ||
Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
August 28 2010 13:13 GMT
#3460
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