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[MSL] Semi-Final B: Light vs Jaedong - Page 82

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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
August 21 2010 06:22 GMT
#1621
On August 21 2010 15:20 Tyrio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:19 ilj.psa wrote:
not to say JD sucks or anything but:

anyone noticed that JD won by cheesing and rushing all 3 games, and lose the 2 "straight up" games?
pretty sure if it was kwanro people would be bashing him for getting cheap wins


2 Hatch Muta isn't allin :o It's just aggressive, like 2 rax (though granted, 2 rax is a great deal easier to transition from)



its not all in but its almost all in, cause if the zerg can't do econ damage he'll be very behind
BW is back
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:23:39
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1622
Blaming JD for game 1 cheese? Get over yourselves.

The only "cheese" was the fast muta semi-all in build on the 5th set and 14cc eco cheese (and I don't even think those were blind).

I don't know what's worse, fan boys or anti-fans.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1623
Someone explain to me when mass muta against mech zvt became cheese? It's completely viable and is done all the time, and is a very good strategy to use on a map like Triathalon.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1624
On August 21 2010 15:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:20 Tyrio wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:19 ilj.psa wrote:
not to say JD sucks or anything but:

anyone noticed that JD won by cheesing and rushing all 3 games, and lose the 2 "straight up" games?
pretty sure if it was kwanro people would be bashing him for getting cheap wins


2 Hatch Muta isn't allin :o It's just aggressive, like 2 rax (though granted, 2 rax is a great deal easier to transition from)

That was the Yarnc build lol, it's at least semi all-in. Reminds me of the Yarnc vs Sea series from last year's WCG, he went this build all three games.


mmm Yarnc build is 12pool gas hatch. JD went hatch gas pool which I believe was popularized by kwanro.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1625
commentators said it was all-in
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:23:54
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1626
Well the great thing we get to see a TvZ in both the MSL and WCG.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
August 21 2010 06:23 GMT
#1627
I cant believe the stupidity of JDs opponents.

WHY THE FUCK ARENT THEY PREPARING FOR EARLY LING AGGRESSION???

sry the caps. but wow. EVERY ZvP he goes for Ling runby and Tosses are just too effing stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and ALWAYS succeeds. Yeah THIS TIME he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. Goooooood logic.
And in ZvT it is the not THAT often, but still more than often enough. IS IT THAT HARD TO BUILD A BUNKER? IS IT THAT HARD? TELL ME. Man this is so disappointing. Yes, sure, 100 minerals are not free, but what is the alternative? Lose everytime JD makes Lings. Wow, this is so incredibly dumb, I can't get over it. Getting linged on an effing Zerg graveyard two times in a row is just beyond me. Wow, I would love to go on but my nerdrage is running out of steam...so:

Good job, Jaedong, if your opponents are morons with APM 1000 times higher than game IQ there is NO reason to not take advantage of it. I liquibetted Light because of the totally imbalanced maps but that was a mistake. Unfortunately he is a moron. Beating a Terran on these maps is an incredible achievement, JD really deserves to advance and at least that ensures an epic final. I hope Flash is not too dumb to make a Bunker.
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:24:18
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1628
mr flamewheel i am expecting an epic writeup XD
Hoejja is Bonjwa
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1629
Well, there it is.

If Light had won, I'd be #3 on liquibet. now that I lost i'm 91st

Liquibet seasons almost over, it wa sa gamble i had to take so gg, wp, maybe next season.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1630
If the double map is Polaris Rhapsody AGAIN (vs Sea, vs Light before) I'm going to punch something that shouldn't be punched. :X Seriously.
Jaedong
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1631
On August 21 2010 15:21 LuigiNMario wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:21 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:19 LuigiNMario wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote:
How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.

...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?



JD vs Flash always gets such big ass hype, and it frankly, never fails to dissapoint.


Did you see their last finals' meeting? The donger got poo'd on in terrible fashion.


My point exactly? :l


Whoops, misread. I am glad in terms of matchup wise that it'll be Flash vs Jaedong as opposed to Light since I don't think his TvT is close to Flash's... But I would've liked to seen Light get to the finals.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1632
anyway, both semifinals were very epic


i'm so hyped for this finals, i hope we can get a good game as the power outage was (the only good game btw flash and JD i can remember)
BW is back
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:25:03
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1633
Why can't we have double FS? Traithalon and PR and Oddeye are just... ick.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1634
Can we go ahead and call JD/Flash co-bonjwas? 3 straight MSL finals with both. 4 straight OSL finals with one of them. This is dominance.
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#1635
On August 21 2010 15:23 Fenrax wrote:
I cant believe the stupidity of JDs opponents.

WHY THE FUCK ARENT THEY PREPARING FOR EARLY LING AGGRESSION???

sry the caps. but wow. EVERY ZvP he goes for Ling runby and Tosses are just too effing stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and ALWAYS succeeds. Yeah THIS TIME he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. Goooooood logic.
And in ZvT it is the not THAT often, but still more than often enough. IS IT THAT HARD TO BUILD A BUNKER? IS IT THAT HARD? TELL ME. Man this is so disappointing. Yes, sure, 100 minerals are not free, but what is the alternative? Lose everytime JD makes Lings. Wow, this is so incredibly dumb, I can't get over it. Getting linged on an effing Zerg graveyard two times in a row is just beyond me. Wow, I would love to go on but my nerdrage is running out of steam...so:

Good job, Jaedong, if your opponents are morons with APM 1000 times higher than game IQ there is NO reason to not take advantage of it. I liquibetted Light because of the totally imbalanced maps but that was a mistake. Unfortunately he is a moron. Beating a Terran on these maps is an incredible achievement, JD really deserves to advance and at least that ensures an epic final. I hope Flash is not too dumb to make a Bunker.


I was thinking about the bunker thing too, i really didn't understand the academy as the wall instead of supply depots with a bunker behind it.
When there's Flash there's a way.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#1636
On August 21 2010 15:19 SimonB wrote:
Jaedong won fair-and-square. It would just be nice for some of his fans to be consistent and berate him after you've berated so many others for far less cheesy strategies.

Honestly, I praised effort for his game against flash and I even didnt mind his hydra bust against Bisu(although I was annoyed by that at the time). You do what you have to do. In TvZ, an 'invincible' terran strategy often has a timing window in which you can be raped.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
August 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#1637
On August 21 2010 15:16 SimonB wrote:
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On August 21 2010 15:15 Wings wrote:
FUCK YES

holy shit that was just so. damn. epic.

Though I'm a Flash fan, I gotta say I'm now a JD fan now. How could you NOT be after watching that series?? SUCH a badass. Omg.

I love SCBW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you're a fan of Kwanro too?

Kwanro and effort haven't been to 3 consecutive MSL finals and they don't have a Golden Mouse. I wasn't referring simply to the play. I was referring to JD's incredible desire not to lose, despite constantly being denied by Light's impeccable play in the lategame. This guy just keeps battling against trends and somehow stays on top while every one else comes and goes.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#1638
yay jaedong.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#1639
On August 21 2010 15:22 FearDarkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:18 machinebloodprogram wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote:
How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.

...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?


lots of tvt fan boys would love this.


only SKT terrans can make TvT fun to watch


Canata lol?
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
August 21 2010 06:25 GMT
#1640
On August 21 2010 15:22 FearDarkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:18 machinebloodprogram wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote:
How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.

...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?


lots of tvt fan boys would love this.


only SKT terrans can make TvT fun to watch


Hate to disagree with you, but man, Canata is a SKT terran too...
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