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On August 21 2010 15:20 Tyrio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:19 ilj.psa wrote: not to say JD sucks or anything but:
anyone noticed that JD won by cheesing and rushing all 3 games, and lose the 2 "straight up" games? pretty sure if it was kwanro people would be bashing him for getting cheap wins 2 Hatch Muta isn't allin :o It's just aggressive, like 2 rax (though granted, 2 rax is a great deal easier to transition from)
its not all in but its almost all in, cause if the zerg can't do econ damage he'll be very behind
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Blaming JD for game 1 cheese? Get over yourselves.
The only "cheese" was the fast muta semi-all in build on the 5th set and 14cc eco cheese (and I don't even think those were blind).
I don't know what's worse, fan boys or anti-fans.
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Someone explain to me when mass muta against mech zvt became cheese? It's completely viable and is done all the time, and is a very good strategy to use on a map like Triathalon.
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On August 21 2010 15:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:20 Tyrio wrote:On August 21 2010 15:19 ilj.psa wrote: not to say JD sucks or anything but:
anyone noticed that JD won by cheesing and rushing all 3 games, and lose the 2 "straight up" games? pretty sure if it was kwanro people would be bashing him for getting cheap wins 2 Hatch Muta isn't allin :o It's just aggressive, like 2 rax (though granted, 2 rax is a great deal easier to transition from) That was the Yarnc build lol, it's at least semi all-in. Reminds me of the Yarnc vs Sea series from last year's WCG, he went this build all three games.
mmm Yarnc build is 12pool gas hatch. JD went hatch gas pool which I believe was popularized by kwanro.
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commentators said it was all-in
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Well the great thing we get to see a TvZ in both the MSL and WCG.
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Fenrax
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I cant believe the stupidity of JDs opponents.
WHY THE FUCK ARENT THEY PREPARING FOR EARLY LING AGGRESSION???
sry the caps. but wow. EVERY ZvP he goes for Ling runby and Tosses are just too effing stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and ALWAYS succeeds. Yeah THIS TIME he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. Goooooood logic. And in ZvT it is the not THAT often, but still more than often enough. IS IT THAT HARD TO BUILD A BUNKER? IS IT THAT HARD? TELL ME. Man this is so disappointing. Yes, sure, 100 minerals are not free, but what is the alternative? Lose everytime JD makes Lings. Wow, this is so incredibly dumb, I can't get over it. Getting linged on an effing Zerg graveyard two times in a row is just beyond me. Wow, I would love to go on but my nerdrage is running out of steam...so:
Good job, Jaedong, if your opponents are morons with APM 1000 times higher than game IQ there is NO reason to not take advantage of it. I liquibetted Light because of the totally imbalanced maps but that was a mistake. Unfortunately he is a moron. Beating a Terran on these maps is an incredible achievement, JD really deserves to advance and at least that ensures an epic final. I hope Flash is not too dumb to make a Bunker.
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mr flamewheel i am expecting an epic writeup XD
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Well, there it is.
If Light had won, I'd be #3 on liquibet. now that I lost i'm 91st
Liquibet seasons almost over, it wa sa gamble i had to take so gg, wp, maybe next season.
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If the double map is Polaris Rhapsody AGAIN (vs Sea, vs Light before) I'm going to punch something that shouldn't be punched. :X Seriously.
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On August 21 2010 15:21 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:21 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On August 21 2010 15:19 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote: How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.
...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?
JD vs Flash always gets such big ass hype, and it frankly, never fails to dissapoint. Did you see their last finals' meeting? The donger got poo'd on in terrible fashion. My point exactly? :l
Whoops, misread. I am glad in terms of matchup wise that it'll be Flash vs Jaedong as opposed to Light since I don't think his TvT is close to Flash's... But I would've liked to seen Light get to the finals.
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anyway, both semifinals were very epic
i'm so hyped for this finals, i hope we can get a good game as the power outage was (the only good game btw flash and JD i can remember)
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Why can't we have double FS? Traithalon and PR and Oddeye are just... ick.
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Can we go ahead and call JD/Flash co-bonjwas? 3 straight MSL finals with both. 4 straight OSL finals with one of them. This is dominance.
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On August 21 2010 15:23 Fenrax wrote: I cant believe the stupidity of JDs opponents.
WHY THE FUCK ARENT THEY PREPARING FOR EARLY LING AGGRESSION???
sry the caps. but wow. EVERY ZvP he goes for Ling runby and Tosses are just too effing stupid to prepare. 90% of his games JD vs. P he does it and ALWAYS succeeds. Yeah THIS TIME he wont go for it again, he already did it the last 7 ZvPs so I am safe. Goooooood logic. And in ZvT it is the not THAT often, but still more than often enough. IS IT THAT HARD TO BUILD A BUNKER? IS IT THAT HARD? TELL ME. Man this is so disappointing. Yes, sure, 100 minerals are not free, but what is the alternative? Lose everytime JD makes Lings. Wow, this is so incredibly dumb, I can't get over it. Getting linged on an effing Zerg graveyard two times in a row is just beyond me. Wow, I would love to go on but my nerdrage is running out of steam...so:
Good job, Jaedong, if your opponents are morons with APM 1000 times higher than game IQ there is NO reason to not take advantage of it. I liquibetted Light because of the totally imbalanced maps but that was a mistake. Unfortunately he is a moron. Beating a Terran on these maps is an incredible achievement, JD really deserves to advance and at least that ensures an epic final. I hope Flash is not too dumb to make a Bunker.
I was thinking about the bunker thing too, i really didn't understand the academy as the wall instead of supply depots with a bunker behind it.
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On August 21 2010 15:19 SimonB wrote: Jaedong won fair-and-square. It would just be nice for some of his fans to be consistent and berate him after you've berated so many others for far less cheesy strategies. Honestly, I praised effort for his game against flash and I even didnt mind his hydra bust against Bisu(although I was annoyed by that at the time). You do what you have to do. In TvZ, an 'invincible' terran strategy often has a timing window in which you can be raped.
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On August 21 2010 15:16 SimonB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:15 Wings wrote: FUCK YES
holy shit that was just so. damn. epic.
Though I'm a Flash fan, I gotta say I'm now a JD fan now. How could you NOT be after watching that series?? SUCH a badass. Omg.
I love SCBW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess you're a fan of Kwanro too? Kwanro and effort haven't been to 3 consecutive MSL finals and they don't have a Golden Mouse. I wasn't referring simply to the play. I was referring to JD's incredible desire not to lose, despite constantly being denied by Light's impeccable play in the lategame. This guy just keeps battling against trends and somehow stays on top while every one else comes and goes.
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On August 21 2010 15:22 FearDarkness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:18 machinebloodprogram wrote:On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote: How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.
...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?
lots of tvt fan boys would love this. only SKT terrans can make TvT fun to watch
Canata lol?
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On August 21 2010 15:22 FearDarkness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 15:18 machinebloodprogram wrote:On August 21 2010 15:18 setzer wrote: How can you be upset Jaedong won over Light.
...do you really want to see a Flash vs Light finale?
lots of tvt fan boys would love this. only SKT terrans can make TvT fun to watch
Hate to disagree with you, but man, Canata is a SKT terran too...
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