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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 30 2010 17:41 GMT
#1141
holy smokes, looking like the loser of Bisu v. Effort won't make it through. Damn Leta and Action!

ALSO,

SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for dual starleague champion!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 30 2010 17:42 GMT
#1142
fuuuuuu at least free won
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 30 2010 17:44 GMT
#1143
Everything cept Flash and Free's game were upsets
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 30 2010 17:58 GMT
#1144
All that I want to say right now is that Flash's style is the gayest thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
July 30 2010 18:11 GMT
#1145
just finished watching flash vs zero. im just wondering what zero could have done in that game.
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 30 2010 18:12 GMT
#1146
On July 31 2010 01:21 matjlav wrote:
It sounds like JD's play was really cocky against Sea. I'm glad he lost for it, and not just because I'm a Sea fan.

This along with JD's complaining about his win over Ssak, and his comments about how he doesn't care about getting into the Ro8/Ro16 and only about winning make him seem like a player with a bad, cocky "I'm-better-than-everyone" attitude overall.

He's starting to make an antifan out of me.

That's the attitude that has made him one of the greatest SC players of all time. JD would not have been nearly as accomplished if he had not had his bad-ass attitude. And Flash said in an interview that he keeps thinking ''Lol, you can't beat me'' to himself during games. It's called winner-mentality. I love JD for his self-confidence. You may call it arrogance or being cocky or whatever, but it has gotten him 5 Starleague golds, so I don't see any reason for him to change it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 30 2010 18:16 GMT
#1147
flash is terribly frustrating, wow.

and i was cringing during that jaedong vs sea game, he should have gone crazy zerg and straight teched to ultras off the gas, that would have been entertaining.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 18:25:02
July 30 2010 18:24 GMT
#1148
On July 30 2010 20:59 Tyrio wrote:
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so good, +Free winning =DD

Flash vs Zero was awesome too, was like a clinic for mech TvZ
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
July 30 2010 18:36 GMT
#1149
On July 31 2010 02:41 amazingoopah wrote:
holy smokes, looking like the loser of Bisu v. Effort won't make it through. Damn Leta and Action!

ALSO,

SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for dual starleague champion!

looooooool

Who will get eliminated? Defending Champion or Unslumping Revolutionist?
Jaedong plz
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
July 30 2010 19:24 GMT
#1150
On July 31 2010 02:04 Slow Motion wrote:
I like Flash, but I felt so bad for Zero in that game. As the game went on you could just see the sick look on Zero's face. He had no idea what to do and was almost crying. When he finally lost it's like all his spirit and life-force was gone.

If you enjoy watching cute little kids get raped, this is the game for you.

Thanks, gonna check it out.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 30 2010 19:29 GMT
#1151
WHAT THE HELL. (T)Sea > (Z)Jaedong? FML.
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 30 2010 19:33 GMT
#1152
On July 31 2010 03:36 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 02:41 amazingoopah wrote:
holy smokes, looking like the loser of Bisu v. Effort won't make it through. Damn Leta and Action!

ALSO,

SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for dual starleague champion!

looooooool

Who will get eliminated? Defending Champion or Unslumping Revolutionist?


lol Leta and Action be trolling that group. Be even more strange/hilarious/depressing (depending on your affiliation) if both Effort and Bisu fail out of the group.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 30 2010 19:36 GMT
#1153
holy moley.. SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i will watch what happend there dispite it isnt recommended.
in The Kong line forever
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 19:44:55
July 30 2010 19:44 GMT
#1154
I'm hoping for a tiebreaker between Bisu/Effort/some scrub that lasts for 10 hours.

But really what map will Bisu vs Effort be playing on? If its polaris rhapsody that blows for effort, but anything else pretty much gets him the Z>P advantage.

EDIT: oooo seems like dreamliner..should be an interesting game!

Effort fighting!

Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 30 2010 20:03 GMT
#1155
JD over committed to mutas he didnt even try to tech to lurkers.. it wasnt that good of a match really.. and jd didnt seem to be winning late-mid game.. he had killed some SCVs and marines... but he didnt even try to transition.
in The Kong line forever
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 30 2010 20:05 GMT
#1156
On July 31 2010 03:12 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 01:21 matjlav wrote:
It sounds like JD's play was really cocky against Sea. I'm glad he lost for it, and not just because I'm a Sea fan.

This along with JD's complaining about his win over Ssak, and his comments about how he doesn't care about getting into the Ro8/Ro16 and only about winning make him seem like a player with a bad, cocky "I'm-better-than-everyone" attitude overall.

He's starting to make an antifan out of me.

That's the attitude that has made him one of the greatest SC players of all time. JD would not have been nearly as accomplished if he had not had his bad-ass attitude. And Flash said in an interview that he keeps thinking ''Lol, you can't beat me'' to himself during games. It's called winner-mentality. I love JD for his self-confidence. You may call it arrogance or being cocky or whatever, but it has gotten him 5 Starleague golds, so I don't see any reason for him to change it.


This is a pretty silly idea. Flash streak of domination came when he started being more humble (and as a result playing more safely). He lost his series against Effort because he made cocky moves in the last 3 games (moving marines out without scouting/medics, BBSing, 14cc). And Jaedong lost his game against Sea because of this winner mentality.

Mondragon is also an example that pops into my head of a player that does/did really well despite always predicting himself to lose in interviews. Yeah, he's a foreigner, but he had a period of dominance among his peers despite the presence of people like idra, who also holds this strange and unjustified attitude that you need to be cocky to win.

Obviously, it goes both ways; you have to take gambles every now and then so your opponents can't abuse your strategy. But one way cockiness will never win you games is by going pure muta against one of the top 10 players right now just to show off that you can.

tl;dr version: Mentality doesn't win you games. Playing well wins you games.

Now that we have that out of the way, there's a difference between having a confident winner mentality and being cocky. When you give an interview after a win saying that you played horribly and you'll never ever play that badly again, it's a ridiculously belittling thing to say for the person you beat (Ssak). When he says that qualifying for the Ro8 doesn't matter to him and he only cares if he wins, it's belittling to say for Sea, who is a good, experienced player and just qualified for the Ro8 for the first time (and he will probably now qualify for both Ro8s. fuck yeah Sea ^_^).

Trying to beat Sea with just mass mutas was a dumb idea; it's evident from the fact that he lost from such a huge advantage. I find it very hard to believe that Jaedong, as the best player in the world right now, didn't realize this. His trying to end the game with pure mutas was him sending a message that he thinks that he is much, much better than Sea. And it makes me so happy (as a Sea fan especially) to see that he got his face stomped to the curb in response.

You can agree with me or not, but I find Jaedong's attitude to be in general pretty distasteful and discourteous to other progamers. In comparison, as he's aged, Flash seems to have become a much nicer/classier guy overall.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4835 Posts
July 30 2010 20:15 GMT
#1157
I don't see how Leta beating Bisu is 'trolling'. It seemed like the most probable outcome.

Also, when did JD have a huge advantage against Sea? He never had a decent drone count.
My strategy is to fork people.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 30 2010 20:39 GMT
#1158
Why do you do this, Jaedong.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 30 2010 21:30 GMT
#1159
I don't get why people complain about mech TvZ and T starving out Z in late game. Protoss used to do it all the time, especially with sair/reaver. Remember why rA is called the Flower Toss?
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 30 2010 21:44 GMT
#1160
Because T is already >>>> Z enough that we don't need more gayness tbh
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