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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
July 06 2010 11:28 GMT
#1041
On July 06 2010 20:23 Subwoofermate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:22 Warrior Madness wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.


Didn't JD lose to s2 at some point in the GFs too? My memory is fuzzy but I'm pretty sure his loss to one of the SKT zergs was pretty critical to their loss (And of course the double loss to fantasy).


Lost to bloody Hyuk when Hyuk was plain awful.


Hyuk was never awful, its just that he finally mastered how to hyuk the other player and not himself
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
July 06 2010 11:28 GMT
#1042
On July 06 2010 20:26 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:23 RisingTide wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.

The problem is, JD is the only reason that Oz HAS a chance in the first place. Sometimes he loses. Sometimes in big matches. It's a shame that Oz rarely seems to have a backup plan.


I think there has to be something about JD mentally regarding why he is so strong in BoX but sub par by his standards in 1v1s.

Maybe he just needs that mental confidence of a BoX to feel his opponent out a little bit.



I agree. There are plenty of occasions, (especially in Bo5s) where JD loses the first match. It also doesn't help that his OSL games are tomorrow.

Jaedong and Baby
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
July 06 2010 11:29 GMT
#1043
They call JD king of PL?
When there's Flash there's a way.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
July 06 2010 11:29 GMT
#1044
FUUUUUUUUUUU oz is out of playoffs T_T. lets just hope killer,hiya,lomo,backho and jd can get their form back up after the playoffs.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 06 2010 11:29 GMT
#1045
On July 06 2010 20:28 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:24 SkytoM wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.


Care to name anyone who actually is clutch instead?


Fantasy? Skyhigh? These two are PL PO Bonjwas


Trust me. If those two players are ever become skilled enough to get the high number of games in the play-offs that Jaedong under his bag, and the extra-attention from the opposing teams that comes with it, they won't look so clutch either.


Fantasy did really well in last year's finals and has been playing pretty well all of this year so...
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#1046
I didn't want JD to go 0-2 Shame on you killer.
SKT/Bisu Fighting though.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
July 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#1047
On July 06 2010 20:18 GTR wrote:
i can't believe s2 has turned into a respectable player


Is it that shocking that a player got better? After all, even Boxer started off being unable to beat the computer.

Glad to see Bisu beating JD, I believed he could do it.
One giant leap for mankind
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
July 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#1048
On July 06 2010 20:29 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:28 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 SkytoM wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.


Care to name anyone who actually is clutch instead?


Fantasy? Skyhigh? These two are PL PO Bonjwas


Trust me. If those two players are ever become skilled enough to get the high number of games in the play-offs that Jaedong under his bag, and the extra-attention from the opposing teams that comes with it, they won't look so clutch either.


Fantasy did really well in last year's finals and has been playing pretty well all of this year so...


Remember when Bisu and Fantasy were #1 and #2 in Kespa rankings and Fantasy was considered best terran
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#1049
Jaedong is now finally walking Flash's path and feeling his pain.
9-0 in Ace matches throughout the season but it takes only one moment of "the best way to kill scourges is to give them mutalisks" to choke.
Sorry Oz, sorry.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
July 06 2010 11:31 GMT
#1050
Can't believe I didn't watch this set . I was just expecting the standard JD wins everyone else loses but nooo. Need vods asap!
"It's not acceptable"
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
July 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1051
Something is wrong with Jaedong play today... I feel missing 2% in some way.

I think it is micro. I keep saw Jaedong giving free units to Bisu during engage. And the Ace match is not epic ZvZ fighting. Just A left click watch show.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1052
People seem to be forgetting that Jaedong pretty much had to prepare against all three races for two different maps. That doesn't justify the mistake he made in the Ace match but still, give the guy a break. Unlike KT who can save Flash for Ace specifically, Oz doesn't have that luxury.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#1053
On July 06 2010 20:25 darktreb wrote:
You carry a team all year long and then lose like this and all of a sudden you're not "clutch". We had to listen to this BS with Flash last year and it looks like we'll have to listen to it with JD again this year.

Sometimes when one guy literally carries an entire team they ... run out of gas.

"clutch" is such a terrible word.

Even "metagame" is cromulent in comparison.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
lespostea
Profile Joined May 2010
United States256 Posts
July 06 2010 11:34 GMT
#1054
JD's mental toughness and presumably insane practice routine causes him to burn out sometimes.

I really seems sometimes like nobody can beat Jaedong but Jaedong. Moreso than other players...

or I've just stayed up all night and don't make sense anymore.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 06 2010 11:34 GMT
#1055
On July 06 2010 20:29 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:28 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 SkytoM wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.


Care to name anyone who actually is clutch instead?


Fantasy? Skyhigh? These two are PL PO Bonjwas


Trust me. If those two players are ever become skilled enough to get the high number of games in the play-offs that Jaedong under his bag, and the extra-attention from the opposing teams that comes with it, they won't look so clutch either.


Fantasy did really well in last year's finals and has been playing pretty well all of this year so...


Fantasy only has two play-off experience under his bag. Jaedong took part in four. Jaedong's play-off statistics pretty much wipes the floor with Fantasy's if you only take the first couple of games as well.
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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
July 06 2010 11:34 GMT
#1056
On July 06 2010 20:32 DarkMatter_ wrote:
People seem to be forgetting that Jaedong pretty much had to prepare against all three races for two different maps. That doesn't justify the mistake he made in the Ace match but still, give the guy a break. Unlike KT who can save Flash for Ace specifically, Oz doesn't have that luxury.


KT doesnt have LUXURY no more either HAHAHAHAhahaaha.. for anyone else that rooted for Lux
Subwoofermate
Profile Joined May 2010
293 Posts
July 06 2010 11:34 GMT
#1057
On July 06 2010 20:28 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 20:24 SkytoM wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:24 Letmelose wrote:
On July 06 2010 20:20 Subwoofermate wrote:
At the end of the day, seems like Jaedong is the dude who is never really clutch in proleague...

Not the first time he's completely screwed up. The 4 pool against Skyhigh, losing twice in the Proleague Finals, losing against Frozean and lucky to have Anytime and Forgg roll over Khan, and now basically ruining Oz's chances to get into the playoffs by losing two games he really should have no trouble winning.


Care to name anyone who actually is clutch instead?


Fantasy? Skyhigh? These two are PL PO Bonjwas


Trust me. If those two players are ever become skilled enough to get the high number of games in the play-offs that Jaedong under his bag, and the extra-attention from the opposing teams that comes with it, they won't look so clutch either.


Fantasy is a damn reliable player that you could depend on in a high stress Proleague situation. He's pretty bad in finals series but he's rock solid when he's playing low number of games.

Jaedong presumably does worse in Proleague because there is a team behind the player playing against him and thus aren't shitting their pants like Kal does or Free did against Flash. Even Fantasy played amazing SK terran against him on Outsider.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 06 2010 11:36 GMT
#1058
That was a really bad attack by Jeadong i don't know what he was thinking . He should have at least clumped all of his mutas when attacking and have them all in 1 clump .
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 06 2010 11:36 GMT
#1059
In other news, Bisu vs JD is now tied in head-to-head(in ranked games).
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
lespostea
Profile Joined May 2010
United States256 Posts
July 06 2010 11:38 GMT
#1060
More importantly -- what does this mean for PR?
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