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On June 20 2010 16:12 Yxes2211 wrote: Man... I really don't know how to approach Flash's Ace match curse.
On the one hand, it's easy for teams to predict Flash for Ace, but i mean its not like that hasn't happened before. Look at Jaedong Oz.
At the same time Flash just 3-0 JD in the MSL. So... is he just nervous, not practicing since MSL, or is it just KTs predictability. I'm not the biggest Flash fan, but I just don't know how to break it down.
Maybe all he needs is one win to get that confidence back. The only downside to that is, he's gotta keep playing Ace matches to get there.
Some believe (And I would agree) players find it difficult to do well in both pro leagues and the star leagues, which is also why I think Effort isn't doing to hot right now either. (In pro league)
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Flash definitely needs a win to get his confidence back but I think part of the problem may be his coaching. Flash looks like he has consistently had the inferior build order in his TvT ace matches. idk, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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On June 20 2010 16:11 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:09 flamewheel wrote:On June 20 2010 16:08 DarkMatter_ wrote: If Jaedong isn't #1 in this month's PR, I'm gonna be pissed. Me too... I believe both of you will be pissed then. But undeniable the gap is getting closer. It's a Power Rank. We're not looking at who's statistically best for a prolonged period of time, but for the month. What do you mean, "the gap is getting closer"? Look at what's happened this month, and you tell me Flash is currently more "powerful."
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On June 20 2010 16:12 Yxes2211 wrote: Man... I really don't know how to approach Flash's Ace match curse.
On the one hand, it's easy for teams to predict Flash for Ace, but i mean its not like that hasn't happened before. Look at Jaedong Oz.
At the same time Flash just 3-0 JD in the MSL. So... is he just nervous, not practicing since MSL, or is it just KTs predictability. I'm not the biggest Flash fan, but I just don't know how to break it down.
Maybe all he needs is one win to get that confidence back. The only downside to that is, he's gotta keep playing Ace matches to get there.
It is accurate to say he is just going through a post-starleague slump. Jaedong goes through the same thing after he wins a starleague. It is important to remember that Flash has only been playing TvTs so it is difficult to judge where his other two matchups are at.
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On June 20 2010 16:11 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:06 flamewheel wrote:On June 20 2010 16:03 Holgerius wrote:I'm so happy SuperArc is banned right now.  Oh god yeah, this. LoL So mean :p ...  How did he get banned???
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He is not slipping, at least he is winning the normal lineup. ace matches is gay for him because he has to practice 3 races, and everyone basically just practice vs Terran
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I REALLY like Flash as a player but SkyHigh played like how Flash would win. If Flash was the one doing the turtling and won with it, you guys would've been like "OMG Flash is the ultimate weapon!" When someone else is doing it, people will go like "Ugh, I hate that kid that wasted my time!" And I am actually pretty concerned about Flash today. The longer the game goes, the more likely that you will lose your gamesense because of the stress.
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On June 20 2010 15:58 IntoTheWow wrote: sKyHigh is the king of TvT, no question. ELO disagrees.
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On June 20 2010 16:15 Xiphos wrote: I REALLY like Flash as a player but SkyHigh played like how Flash would win. If Flash was the one doing the turtling and won with it, you guys would've been like "OMG Flash is the ultimate weapon!" When someone else is doing it, people will go like "Ugh, I hate that kid that wasted my time!" And I am actually pretty concerned about Flash today. The longer the game goes, the more likely that you will lose your gamesense because of the stress. lol are you serious? because everytime flash does his turtle things all i read is OMG FLASH SO BORING.
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On June 20 2010 16:15 BloodDrunK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:11 InTheFade wrote:On June 20 2010 16:06 flamewheel wrote:On June 20 2010 16:03 Holgerius wrote:I'm so happy SuperArc is banned right now.  Oh god yeah, this. LoL So mean :p ...  How did he get banned???
SuperArc was just temp banned for 1 week by RaGe.
That account was created on 2009-03-20 03:08:00 and had 6756 posts.
Reason: How dare you report some other guy as trolling when you yourself posted this:
On June 17 2010 01:26 SuperArc wrote: Spain world cup winners?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
There's a reason Germany, Italy, France are WC winners and Spain has never been IN a final!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
more bullshit like this and you'll be banned till the next world cup
Anti-climactic, if you ask me. To be banned for football talk.
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On June 20 2010 16:15 anch wrote: He is not slipping, at least he is winning the normal lineup. ace matches is gay for him because he has to practice 3 races, and everyone basically just practice vs Terran He has to practice for 3 races in normal games too -_-
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On June 20 2010 16:15 anch wrote: He is not slipping, at least he is winning the normal lineup. ace matches is gay for him because he has to practice 3 races, and everyone basically just practice vs Terran
Leta and Jaedong have to practice for all three matchups, yet they are doing remarkable in their ace matches.
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Poor Superarc doesn't get to spam the thread (thank god)
As for the ace match Skyhigh was playing to win once Flash stopped mining - yamato would win the game for him eventually, Flash needed to attack/secure a base before his forces are whittled down. Hella boring to watch but he does what he has to do to secure CJ's playoff spot, can you blame him for that?
On the other hand that "expo everywhere after securing lead, oh wait it backfired" looked like cockiness instead of game-winning so I completely blame Skyhigh for that
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On June 20 2010 16:15 BloodDrunK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:11 InTheFade wrote:On June 20 2010 16:06 flamewheel wrote:On June 20 2010 16:03 Holgerius wrote:I'm so happy SuperArc is banned right now.  Oh god yeah, this. LoL So mean :p ...  How did he get banned??? He reported someone for trolling while trolling himself in one of the World Cup threads.
I bet he'll read this thread soon and rage that he can't rub things into everyone's faces.
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On June 20 2010 16:14 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:12 Yxes2211 wrote: Man... I really don't know how to approach Flash's Ace match curse.
On the one hand, it's easy for teams to predict Flash for Ace, but i mean its not like that hasn't happened before. Look at Jaedong Oz.
At the same time Flash just 3-0 JD in the MSL. So... is he just nervous, not practicing since MSL, or is it just KTs predictability. I'm not the biggest Flash fan, but I just don't know how to break it down.
Maybe all he needs is one win to get that confidence back. The only downside to that is, he's gotta keep playing Ace matches to get there. It is accurate to say he is just going through a post-starleague slump. Jaedong goes through the same thing after he wins a starleague. It is important to remember that Flash has only been playing TvTs so it is difficult to judge where his other two matchups are at.
Yah u have a point. I just hate this discussion about slump or not slump.
Also, this is kinda off topic but isn't it weird that slumps occur after a player wins a starleague. I mean now all they have to worry about is proleague XD its kinda counterintuitive XD Just saying
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On June 20 2010 16:14 space_yes wrote: Flash definitely needs a win to get his confidence back but I think part of the problem may be his coaching. Flash looks like he has consistently had the inferior build order in his TvT ace matches. idk, someone correct me if I'm wrong. This is correct. Even in the game against Hiya, where he lost a late-game advantage, he did so after first coming back from an early setback.
But it's not just about initial build order rock paper scissors... every game, he made big or small mistakes that uncharacteristically prevented him from coming back.
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On June 20 2010 16:11 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2010 16:09 flamewheel wrote:On June 20 2010 16:08 DarkMatter_ wrote: If Jaedong isn't #1 in this month's PR, I'm gonna be pissed. Me too... I believe both of you will be pissed then. But undeniable the gap is getting closer. While a Flash vs. JD match is still 50:50 IMO, Jaedong has looked like a much better player overall this month. Jaedong's ZvZ and ZvP are almost flawless (his ZvT has looked amazing too since the MSL finals). Meanwhile, Flash's TvT is looking extremely inconsistent and he continuously keeps failing in the Ace match.
Of course, considering Plexa's bias, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Flash is still #1 in the PR.
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what da hell man, how they not double mr. ho?
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Well this game was cloaked wraiths with comsat and good micro vs cloaked wraiths without comsat, and the rest of the game was Flash trying to come back.
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Meh, all i'll say from now is watch flash rape in the next few pl matches and keep that no.1 spot for kt, then watch him rape in the finals against whoever we play glhf whoever we're playing next, your gonna need it
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