The reason Flash lost to Skyhigh is because his TvT is monstrous...
He basically has a winning record against every good terran except Sea/Hiya
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3-1 - flash, 4-0 - baby, 3-0 - fantasy, 4-0 - leta, 1-0 - light, 2-1 - really

Gtks

Greece135 Posts

June 21 2010 10:03 GMT

#1203

What did you expect Snow? i thougt i was pretty clear with "shake me brake me" but i also was telling you a drain 'mindless' tactic sometimes can win a game this is why effort lost the game:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131617&currentpage=37
Gtks post.

Forget the FUNS and the stunts and focus on the game, forget about me also.

I have some bussiness to take care cya in a week or so..

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Finaly i will through up everything in the forrum alote of pro players are reading me dame it.

Ps: I will stick with snow but he may need to listen this again:
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My comments of Snow game:

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To many trainers in the Cj team?

I couldn't leave before to send a message to the Blizzard that is trying to creat a problem to kespa:
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Shut up Blizzard the boys in korea are playing BW:
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Crais

Canada2136 Posts

June 21 2010 17:25 GMT

#1204

Some good games. I didn't even mind the long tank game. (Mech <3<3<3)
Had hoped to see flash in the normal matches and someone else get ace.
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DreaM)XeRO

Korea (South)4667 Posts

June 22 2010 00:28 GMT

#1205

well this is unprecedented
2 ACE loses for flash?

Jayme

United States5866 Posts

June 22 2010 00:39 GMT

#1206

On June 21 2010 01:33 vnlegend wrote:
Predictably Skyhigh pwns Flash once again. Go CJ!

Frankly, Flash is just overrated. Every game he loses is supposedly because his opponent is so good. The simplest explanation is Flash is the one who's not good. His TvT is getting figured out by fellow progamers and that's why he's losing.

Lol Flash overrated...

What's with all these people that have no clue what they're talking about. How about you learn what the meaning of "overrated" actually is? 2 Golds and 2 Silvers in 4 back to back SL's is not and never will be overrated.

Flash is extremely good and just because he's actually losing some games now doesn't change that fact. It's not as if he's like 2-8... he's 4-4. This only looks HORRIBLE because we're used to crap like 17-3

dani_caliKorea

730 Posts

June 22 2010 01:06 GMT

#1207

On June 21 2010 12:41 Silentness wrote:
Flash's TvT is fine. Yous guys are freaking out for no reason.

Hiya, Skyhigh, Ruby, Baby all have ridiculously good TvT so it's not a fluke to lose to them.

Ruby and Hiya dont have "ridculously good TvT" I dont think Baby does either, he did lose to MVP.

Lightwip

United States5497 Posts

June 22 2010 01:11 GMT

#1208

On June 22 2010 10:06 dani_caliKorea wrote:

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Ruby and Hiya dont have "ridculously good TvT" I dont think Baby does either, he did lose to MVP.

Flash lost to MVP once too...

Vathus

Canada404 Posts

June 22 2010 04:30 GMT

#1209

On June 21 2010 18:18 Aurioch wrote:
Did anyone notice Savior on the bench when watching the VOD? He's the guy in the yellow :o

I saw the guy in yellow he was only there in the last vod but was that really savior? o.O

J1.au

Australia3596 Posts

June 22 2010 04:40 GMT

#1210

On June 22 2010 13:30 Vathus wrote:

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I saw the guy in yellow he was only there in the last vod but was that really savior? o.O

Why the hell would Savior be at a Proleague game. He is BANNED from e-Sports.

C[SCL]

Philippines576 Posts

June 22 2010 05:08 GMT

#1211

I don't know if anyone pointed this out already but, remember JvZ? Other Zergs learned from him and look at JD's 80% ZvZ winrate now. It's like 75%. I feel it's the same with FvT with his recent TvT losses. But let's admit it, SkyHigh is a beast in TvT. That's my explanation for Flash's losses to Baby, Hiya and Ruby.

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

June 22 2010 08:31 GMT

#1212

On June 22 2010 14:08 C[SCL] wrote:look at JD's 80% ZvZ winrate now. It's like 75%.

For some reason I found this really hilarious

manymunkies

United States184 Posts

June 22 2010 21:01 GMT

#1213

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This seriously made me lol

Crimson)S(hadow

Philippines625 Posts

June 22 2010 21:07 GMT

#1214

On June 21 2010 18:18 Aurioch wrote:
Did anyone notice Savior on the bench when watching the VOD? He's the guy in the yellow :o

where where where where where where where?! someone please pinpoint a close-up

[X]Ken_D

United States4650 Posts

June 24 2010 02:53 GMT

#1215

I watched and the Ace match went something like this...

Skyhigh with a huge early lead early on..

.. 1 hour later, Flash finally GG.

Despite the lead that Skyhigh had, Flash looked like he was controlling the flow through out the match while Skyhigh could only react. That is how strong Flash's TvT is.

Navi

5286 Posts

June 24 2010 03:55 GMT

#1216

flash is not playing bad at all, other teams are just preparing extra hard to snipe him / his opponents sometimes grab an advantage early on (skyhigh this game, fantasy vs flash on match point a while ago, etc.) and flash has to fight against all of this while being unsure most of the time who will be sent against him on ace. the results don't always show how well he is playing; while he does have his sick streaks, it doesn't mean he is playing any worse if he loses due to great preparation or luck on the opponent's behalf.

this also goes to the person who said that they didn't think baby's TvT was so hot because he lost to mvp; results are just results. hell, bisu's lost to cuteangel, JD got smashed by rock several times consecutively, etc. a couple of black spots don't mean flash is out of the picture.