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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 23 2010 18:42 GMT
#6141
super sad face.

it really pisses me off that Flash got screwed by KeSPA decision in MSL final vs JD but in the OSL, KeSPA let Effort a regame (when Effort was loosing) which eventually led to Effort's OSL win.
...from the land of imba
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 18:43:31
May 23 2010 18:43 GMT
#6142
On May 24 2010 03:23 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 03:21 Pooster wrote:
Is there an interview out about Flash? I know they do it for the winner, but I'd like to hear what Flash has to say.


You will have to wait till he wins sth, a game or MSL final.


actually he was shortly interviewed right after the games too, like after every final.

great post by insult xD
beep boop
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
May 23 2010 18:49 GMT
#6143
On May 24 2010 03:42 dybydx wrote:
super sad face.

it really pisses me off that Flash got screwed by KeSPA decision in MSL final vs JD but in the OSL, KeSPA let Effort a regame (when Effort was loosing) which eventually led to Effort's OSL win.


Wait, what?
Moderator<:3-/-<
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 23 2010 18:50 GMT
#6144
On May 24 2010 03:42 dybydx wrote:
super sad face.

it really pisses me off that Flash got screwed by KeSPA decision in MSL final vs JD but in the OSL, KeSPA let Effort a regame (when Effort was loosing) which eventually led to Effort's OSL win.

Er, what?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 23 2010 18:50 GMT
#6145
On May 24 2010 03:42 dybydx wrote:
super sad face.

it really pisses me off that Flash got screwed by KeSPA decision in MSL final vs JD but in the OSL, KeSPA let Effort a regame (when Effort was loosing) which eventually led to Effort's OSL win.


EFFORT WAS LOSING?!

god I'll just ignore this post...

-if- anyone was screwed by the regame it was Effort, not Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 23 2010 18:52 GMT
#6146
On May 24 2010 03:50 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 03:42 dybydx wrote:
super sad face.

it really pisses me off that Flash got screwed by KeSPA decision in MSL final vs JD but in the OSL, KeSPA let Effort a regame (when Effort was loosing) which eventually led to Effort's OSL win.


EFFORT WAS LOSING?!

god I'll just ignore this post...

-if- anyone was screwed by the regame it was Effort, not Flash.


He's probably talking about the Shine game..
BW forever || Thall
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 19:12:42
May 23 2010 19:04 GMT
#6147
yes i was talking about that 13 game long tie breaker in which effort was loosing then he pp'ed for a regame which he won.

it angers me because the power outage was completely not flash's fault, but he was given a loss cause he was "loosing". but effort pp'ed AFTER he just lost a muta battle (and in ZvZ, loosing muta battle means gg). clearly effort's claim of equipment malfunction was too coincidental. so i felt effort does not deserve an OSL title.
...from the land of imba
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 23 2010 19:08 GMT
#6148
On May 24 2010 04:04 dybydx wrote:
yes i was talking about that 13 game long tie breaker in which effort was loosing then he pp'ed for a regame which he won.


yeah well he did have hardware problems like Flash did with his monitor...

Things like these happen unfortunately.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 23 2010 19:10 GMT
#6149
I'm not sure about the exact details but didn't Effort say his mouse stopped working AFTER the game? Or when it was clear that he was losing.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
May 23 2010 19:15 GMT
#6150
On May 24 2010 04:10 Amnesia wrote:
I'm not sure about the exact details but didn't Effort say his mouse stopped working AFTER the game? Or when it was clear that he was losing.

He asked for pause when he was clearly losing mutalisk battle
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 19:17:28
May 23 2010 19:15 GMT
#6151
On May 24 2010 04:10 Amnesia wrote:
I'm not sure about the exact details but didn't Effort say his mouse stopped working AFTER the game? Or when it was clear that he was losing.



Just like how Flash strangely flew his two valks right into the muta cloud, Effort suddenly stopped microing his muta and lost half of them to Shine's scourge.

Effort pp'ed right then, in the middle of the game, and was allowed a regame.

Flash's monitor shut down was a circumstance similar to Effort's mouse malfunction.

If you guys aren't complaining about Flash's regame, then you shouldn't complain about Effort's regame against Shine. It was pretty obvious that Effort had the upper hand in the first game after that pimp drone scout, successfully sniping the valk and perfectly countering Flash's build.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 23 2010 19:16 GMT
#6152
if you look at the vod, effort pp'ed after shine had advantage in the air battle. not DURING, not BEFORE, but AFTER. what a douche.

for flash's monitor problem though, the monitor went blank so the booth girl can confirm he wasnt taking advantage of the situation.
...from the land of imba
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 23 2010 19:19 GMT
#6153
On May 24 2010 04:16 dybydx wrote:
if you look at the vod, effort pp'ed after shine had advantage in the air battle. not DURING, not BEFORE, but AFTER. what a douche.

for flash's monitor problem though, the monitor went blank so the booth girl can confirm he wasnt taking advantage of the situation.


the monitor didnt go blank, it flickered afaik and Effort's problem was confirmed by Kespa referees...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 23 2010 19:20 GMT
#6154
On May 24 2010 04:08 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 04:04 dybydx wrote:
yes i was talking about that 13 game long tie breaker in which effort was loosing then he pp'ed for a regame which he won.


yeah well he did have hardware problems like Flash did with his monitor...

Things like these happen unfortunately.


On April 18 2010 20:41 Waxangel wrote:
If it's a mouse issue, then the responsibility is with the player (personal equipment is your own responsibility according to the rules). It could possibly be an easy forfeit loss for effort.

BW forever || Thall
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 23 2010 19:20 GMT
#6155
On May 24 2010 04:16 dybydx wrote:
if you look at the vod, effort pp'ed after shine had advantage in the air battle. not DURING, not BEFORE, but AFTER. what a douche.

for flash's monitor problem though, the monitor went blank so the booth girl can confirm he wasnt taking advantage of the situation.



How's Effort's mouse malfunction different from Flash's monitor? That malfunction could have occurred at any time. It just happens that it occurred when Shine was attacking, similar to how the monitor shut down when Effort was attacking Flash.

So you claim that Kespa loves Effort and decide to just throw him a regame. You claim to know more than on-site technicians.
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
May 23 2010 19:22 GMT
#6156
bla bla bla

User was temp banned for this post.
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 23 2010 19:23 GMT
#6157
On May 24 2010 04:20 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 04:08 SuperArc wrote:
On May 24 2010 04:04 dybydx wrote:
yes i was talking about that 13 game long tie breaker in which effort was loosing then he pp'ed for a regame which he won.


yeah well he did have hardware problems like Flash did with his monitor...

Things like these happen unfortunately.


Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 20:41 Waxangel wrote:
If it's a mouse issue, then the responsibility is with the player (personal equipment is your own responsibility according to the rules). It could possibly be an easy forfeit loss for effort.


Could, doesn't mean that's always the right choice.
So I ask everyone here, how can Flash lose in a finals in a way that's acceptable?
Jaedong
SkysLa
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada84 Posts
May 23 2010 19:24 GMT
#6158
On May 24 2010 04:16 dybydx wrote:
if you look at the vod, effort pp'ed after shine had advantage in the air battle. not DURING, not BEFORE, but AFTER. what a douche.

for flash's monitor problem though, the monitor went blank so the booth girl can confirm he wasnt taking advantage of the situation.


Like people have said, they have on site staff to verify these problems. Also you cant seriously be blaming Flash losing the OSL to efforts mouse problem which led to regame.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 23 2010 19:25 GMT
#6159
On May 24 2010 04:23 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 04:20 Rostam wrote:
On May 24 2010 04:08 SuperArc wrote:
On May 24 2010 04:04 dybydx wrote:
yes i was talking about that 13 game long tie breaker in which effort was loosing then he pp'ed for a regame which he won.


yeah well he did have hardware problems like Flash did with his monitor...

Things like these happen unfortunately.


On April 18 2010 20:41 Waxangel wrote:
If it's a mouse issue, then the responsibility is with the player (personal equipment is your own responsibility according to the rules). It could possibly be an easy forfeit loss for effort.


Could, doesn't mean that's always the right choice.
So I ask everyone here, how can Flash lose in a finals in a way that's acceptable?


I was just pointing out that there is a clear difference between the two situations.
BW forever || Thall
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
May 23 2010 19:27 GMT
#6160
On May 24 2010 04:22 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
bla bla bla


I have been enlightened.
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