[OSL] Korean Air OSL Grand Final - Page 284

On May 22 2010 22:41 DarkMatter_ wrote:
What a crappy OP. No writeup, no recommended games, nothing. If you're gonna do an LR thread for a starleague finals, put some effort into it or let someone more capable to do it.

On May 22 2010 22:38 Scaramanga wrote:

Thats what im saying, did you actually read my post? Effort made many mistakes in game one and two compared to flash's two, how people can say effort is more deserving of a title is beyond me

On May 22 2010 22:42 Triple7 wrote:
T____T FLASH~~~

Aside from FlaSh's psychic powers in game 2, and EffOrt's psychic powers in game 4, I thought it was a pretty mediocre series. Also:

On May 22 2010 22:42 Triple7 wrote:
T____T FLASH~~~

Aside from FlaSh's psychic powers in game 2, and EffOrt's psychic powers in game 4, I thought it was a pretty mediocre series. Also:

On May 22 2010 22:34 DraGone wrote:
Congrats Effort, he will one day surpass Jaedong!

On May 22 2010 22:41 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:


Learn? He didn't lose bc of lack of skill and knowledge.

On December 04 2008 06:51 Hot_Bid wrote:

let me explain something about effort, and why there's so much good feeling about him. effort is irrevocably tied to savior. he is his true apprentice, his home grown little brother. idra says that savior loves effort, i'm sure even more than the coaches do. he's more like a young, modern savior than kwanro or jy or orion ever was. he's his heir. when cj fans and savior fans watch effort, we see a young ma jae yoon, someone with infinite possibilities and whose play reminds us so much of the old maestro its scary. most of all, when we watch effort play, we remember. we remember a dominant ma jae yoon who had been so abruptly taken from us. we remember the savior who we wish so badly to return. before bisu, before FBH, before his current painful struggles. effort represents both hope for the future and the legacy of the past, merged into one talented, hard working, fierce looking kid.

i am basing this solely off of what i see during CJ proleague matches, but the kid cares. he's a team player, he's humble, and he's come up through one of the most difficult team practice systems out there. ever since the team-ceremonies that xellos, much, and iris did to stick it to FBH when savior was slumping, i've loved CJ more and more. effort is a continuation of that and of all the things i've mentioned above with relation to our memories of savior. even his name is representative of this. his choice of ID is not one that represents a sun god or jesus or even something that's cool like bisu or shark. it's an ID that embodies the CJ spirit more than anything. it's all you need to be a good teammate, to win. if CJ could be embodied in one noun, it'd be effort.

to us CJ fans, he means much more than just the next big zerg player.

On May 22 2010 22:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
Anyone complaining that Effort got "lucky" in winning against a 14cc is ridiculous. There were no cheeses this series, except the BBS by Flash in Game 4 and he even canceled that.

Good scouting is not "Luck"
Hidden ling flank is not "Luck"
Beating 14cc is not "Luck"

Flash has weaknesses, Effort exploited them. If you want to watch two long games where Flash loses, check out CJ vs KT in Proleague.

On May 22 2010 22:42 Wohmfg wrote:


For reals, I'm slightly disappointed in the OP, I love the banner but the rest is severely lacking. It's always nice to have some hype for a finals of this magnitude.

On May 22 2010 22:42 matjlav wrote:


I doubt many people think that Effort is actually the better player, but the fact is that it's Flash's own fault that he lost. The way you said that he got "gayed out" of it and that it's "fucking bullshit" suggested that you were just blaming Effort's "gay" play.

On May 22 2010 22:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
I feel really happy for Effort, Coach Cho, and CJ.

They lost their iconic figure to a horrible cheating scandal, and found out not only was he losing on purpose, but was betraying the team to do so. Remember, Savior was their big brother, their role model, and someone they looked up to as they rose through the CJ ranks.

And now, almost as if to wipe the slate clean, Savior's heir replaces him. I feel this win means so much more to CJ and CJ fans than before.



Lastly, to all those saying it was lucky or Flash was more deserving:

On May 22 2010 22:44 niteReloaded wrote:
Instead of smashing this kid, winning the golden mouse, gaining a shitload of confidence, then beating Jaedong next week and finally being recognized as bonjwa and the greatest SC player to ever walk this earth, he'll now start doubting and 'reinventing' himself which will lead to him losing 3-0 to jaedong where he'll try some stupid shit builds ala fantasy and FAIL. And then OGN and MBC will announce that there will be no more SC1 tournaments and flash will end up in a mad house and we can all kill ourselves.

On May 22 2010 22:31 darktreb wrote:


"He's not as good at bo5's as the greatest bo5 player of all time so he's not clutch".

Seriously? He's lost big games and won some. Even JD couldn't close the deal against SKT1 in the finals. I mean come on. After his first OSL (when he was 14 and they had a 3rd place bo5 match), Flash has only lost bo5's to JD, forGG, and now Effort.

On May 22 2010 22:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
I feel really happy for Effort, Coach Cho, and CJ.

They lost their iconic figure to a horrible cheating scandal, and found out not only was he losing on purpose, but was betraying the team to do so. Remember, Savior was their big brother, their role model, and someone they looked up to as they rose through the CJ ranks.

And now, almost as if to wipe the slate clean, Savior's heir replaces him. I feel this win means so much more to CJ and CJ fans than before.



Lastly, to all those saying it was lucky or Flash was more deserving:

On May 22 2010 22:44 rainei wrote:
I dunno, I thought the one who won more games deserves the title.

In hockey/baseball/ whatever sports, it doesn't matter if you win a few games 10-0 and then proceed to lose 3-2 2-1 etc, etc. Theres an example in baseball which I can't remember in which the losing team won a couple of blowouts, but lost a lot of close games, and therefore not winning the title.