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unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
May 22 2010 13:26 GMT
#5601
how can people say he doesn't deserve the OSL after the man came back from that hellish experience of rererere games.. to say he doesn't deserve is just blatant flash fanboyism
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
May 22 2010 13:26 GMT
#5602
On May 22 2010 22:24 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:22 Holgerius wrote:
Flash, why the fuck didn't you play straight up? You crushed him like a bug in the 2 first games, and then just... Goddamnit.

DWADAdwdada


When I saw his eye twitch in game 4 I knew he was really nervous.
He tried to win with mind games while he himself was choking...

umm.. when flash does eye twitch he is nervous? lol

gawd I love EffOrt..
Entusman #51
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
May 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#5603
On May 22 2010 22:25 darktreb wrote:
Flash will be fine. This will just keep him motivated - always gotta keep mixing it up. He didn't play too smart the last 3 games but these things happen. He's already made 5 finals before turning 18 ... this is just the start of what's to come.


Hmm, no...
this really really hurts.

Men are not machines. It will affect him.
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
May 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#5604
Well I know who to LB for in the MSL finals now
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
May 22 2010 13:27 GMT
#5605
Yeah, that's pretty much the only way Z's beat Flash these days... prepare a solid opening and then Kwanroll in early game. kind of a shame Flash left himself so vulnerable going BBS and 14cc -_-
(>'.')>
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33481 Posts
May 22 2010 13:28 GMT
#5606
Elsewhere in Seoul....


[image loading]


AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 22 2010 13:28 GMT
#5607
I wonder if Flash talked to his coach in between matches... and they'd be like "PLAY SAFE" G4/5 and Flash just ends up doing the riskiest builds imaginable. What a sad way to lose.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
May 22 2010 13:28 GMT
#5608
On May 22 2010 22:26 Silentness wrote:
Jaedong: "So all I have to do is build speed lings???" (throws late game macro builds notes in the trash)


Jaedong had actually been researching a build that would completely revolutionize TvZ play into revolving around valkyrie-devourer play. Now he's just going to opt for 9pool speed.
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
May 22 2010 13:29 GMT
#5609
While Flash is very dominant, I don't think he's clutch. He can win finals but his finals bo5 record is considerably worse than Jaedong's. I think this finals has demonstrated that Flash still can choke in highly pressured situations (especially that 14 CC). With this in mind, I predict Jaedong will win the MSL. I feel that Jaedong is simply a stronger player in finals while Flash is stronger overall.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 22 2010 13:29 GMT
#5610
Oh man, Flash let me down. Big time. I just hope the MSL is different.
phlamez
Profile Joined January 2008
United States96 Posts
May 22 2010 13:29 GMT
#5611
I wouldn't expect Flash to just roll over in the MSL finals, expect a fight
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
May 22 2010 13:30 GMT
#5612
my fav pro is jd but i am very very sorry for flash
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 22 2010 13:30 GMT
#5613
man what a great finals. So much rage lolololol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 22 2010 13:30 GMT
#5614
I have only this question: consider how Flash had been raping EVERY zerg since October, with 1raxCC into SK terran or bio-mech, over and over again. Now consider the last few weeks, where he's highly deviating with his builds, and doing poorly. I know you want to keep your opponent on their toes but I ask this: if it ain't broke, why try to fix it?
... Knowmsayin'?
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
May 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#5615
Flash was much more deserving of the title than effort, first two games flash raped effort repeatedly for 20 minuets each, 3rd game flash made one mistake of not scouting before moving out which cost him the game and the 5th game he didnt walloff properly and it cost him the game
two mistakes and hes gayed out of a spot in history as one of the games best
two mistakes
fucking bullshit
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
May 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#5616
On May 22 2010 22:29 pat777 wrote:
While Flash is very dominant, I don't think he's clutch. He can win finals but his finals bo5 record is considerably worse than Jaedong's.


"He's not as good at bo5's as the greatest bo5 player of all time so he's not clutch".

Seriously? He's lost big games and won some. Even JD couldn't close the deal against SKT1 in the finals. I mean come on. After his first OSL (when he was 14 and they had a 3rd place bo5 match), Flash has only lost bo5's to JD, forGG, and now Effort.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#5617
On May 22 2010 22:17 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 22:14 dukethegold wrote:
Effort made good decisions in game 3,4,5.

He totally deserved this OSL.

But it's true that it was a pity we didn't see a long macro game between Flash and Effort like that PL match.

To be honest, the only game that I can recommend was game 4 because Effort's defense was BEAUTIFUL.

I would agree with good decisions in game 3 and 5, but game 4 was more of a bad decision of Flash than a good decision from effort. Flash tried to cheese and failed, after that effort pretty much had the game.

I would've cheesed too if I was Flash(although on game 3, not 4). Effort went 3h before pool in game 2, so he would probably do the same in the next game.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
May 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#5618
On May 22 2010 22:30 InTheFade wrote:
I have only this question: consider how Flash had been raping EVERY zerg since October, with 1raxCC into SK terran or bio-mech, over and over again. Now consider the last few weeks, where he's highly deviating with his builds, and doing poorly. I know you want to keep your opponent on their toes but I ask this: if it ain't broke, why try to fix it?




Exhibit 1: Bisu
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
May 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#5619
On May 22 2010 22:29 pat777 wrote:
While Flash is very dominant, I don't think he's clutch. He can win finals but his finals bo5 record is considerably worse than Jaedong's. I think this finals has demonstrated that Flash still can choke in highly pressured situations (especially that 14 CC). With this in mind, I predict Jaedong will win the MSL. I feel that Jaedong is simply a stronger player in finals while Flash is stronger overall.


That's a pretty apt and unbiased assessment. Never thought of it that way, but putting it that way works.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 22 2010 13:32 GMT
#5620
On May 22 2010 22:26 Silentness wrote:
Jaedong: "So all I have to do is build speed lings???" (throws late game macro builds notes in the trash)

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