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emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
May 14 2010 11:27 GMT
#861
On May 14 2010 20:25 HnR)hT wrote:
Effort haters need to shut the fuck up. About imbalance, about tiebreakers, about the final, about everything. His demolishing of Kal in a bo5 was not in the least surprising to anyone not blinded by sheer hate and wishful thinking. It's as if his play through most of 2009, which shows that he has been slumping badly in the past few months but is now apparently recovering, has been forgotten. He certainly deserves to be here, and Kespa wouldn't give him a regame against Shine unless there was a legitimate hardware issue.


I'm an Effort hater, hands down he is good. But no doubt he will be raped in the next few weeks. goodluck Alien!
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 11:30:12
May 14 2010 11:27 GMT
#862
On May 14 2010 20:26 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:20 o[twist] wrote:
ugh cj fans come on. these were some solid 6hatch breaks but nobody watching this thought kal played well


Those ht snipes looked pretty unstoppable, and those observer strikes seemed pretty impressive to me. Kal's counter attack almost won him a game he was going to have difficulty winning, it was hardly an objectively bad move. And EffOrt grabbed a BO win in Game 1. Kal played well, I think in the semi-finals of a starleague, people usually do, but EffOrt was better.


Kal played about as well as every other protoss in the current era of Starcraft.

PvZ is such a volatile matchup that you absolutely have to get everything right against any zerg that is fairly good. The minute you stuff up and lose stuff like reavers, shuttles, and high templars, and you're just going to get rolled by 1a2a3a hydralisks.

Effort played the standard game as well as anyone that could be considered great at the matchup can but you're kidding yourself that Kal played well.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
May 14 2010 11:27 GMT
#863
On May 14 2010 20:21 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:13 losso wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:04 J1.au wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:04 Jackal03 wrote:
now i just hope, just hope, that effort brings his S class ZvT to the finals

How can he bring something he doesn't have?


[image loading]

Sure, he's struggled a little more recently, but it seems that people forget why he was such a big name. He was so good a that point that some people were talking that he might be the best zerg.


well not the biggest names he beat there but yeah, efforts zvt was really really good at one point. i remember day[9] commentated one of his games on neo medusa or so. I think he will make Flash fight hard for the title, all this "3-0 boring effOrt sucks he has no chance kal just choked usually he is way better" is just funny xD
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 14 2010 11:27 GMT
#864
On May 14 2010 20:25 538 wrote:
fun fact: Kal is 4-23 (14%) against Zero, Effort and Jaedong combined.


he needs his alias changed from smug toss to choking toss
BW is back
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
May 14 2010 11:28 GMT
#865
On May 14 2010 20:24 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:21 Malinor wrote:
One year ago EffOrt was believed to be the next zerg overmind, and now everyone is like he is the worst zerg ever.


Yes, and a year ago bisu was a monster, and now everyone is like he is the worst protoss ever.

your point?


Bisu has nothing to be embarassed of, he's given us years of dominance and great play. Effort disappointed us all by starting to slump in the middle of his rise to fame. But I'm delighted that he's started showing his true self again, though this series was hardly the most convincing 3-0 rape.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 11:29:20
May 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#866
On May 14 2010 20:27 Jackal03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:25 538 wrote:
fun fact: Kal is 4-23 (14%) against Zero, Effort and Jaedong combined.


he needs his alias changed from smug toss to choking toss

...and 3 of those 4 wins are to Jaedong, lol.
GANDHISAUCE
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
May 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#867
I predict a 3-0 OSL final in favor of Flash.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#868
On May 14 2010 20:20 o[twist] wrote:
ugh cj fans come on. these were some solid 6hatch breaks but nobody watching this thought kal played well



Yeah, you are right. I was afraid of this, since the winners interview of Kal after the RO8... He seemed so overconfident, and today it looked like he wasnt too prepared... But also, i guess the first set was a bit demoralizing...
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#869
One question:

Would anyone rather have a shine vs flash finals?

If the answer is yes you must be insane
beep boop
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#870
On May 14 2010 20:21 Shikyo wrote:
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On May 14 2010 20 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              14 2010 20      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:20 Jackal03 wrote:
i think flash has less chance of winning against a Z then against a P

no P is playing really good this days and flash's TvP has been absolute rape, he even passed JD in his vP elo peak

Well dunno, JD hasn't played a P in like half a year.


not Flash's fault Jaedong gets knocked out of OSL before Ro16.

also also, not Flash's fault that Jaedong didn't put any protoss in his MSL Ro32 group.

also also also, not Flash's fault no one tries to snipe Jaedong with protosses in PL (though it would be pretty funny).
Remember Violet.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
May 14 2010 11:30 GMT
#871
On May 14 2010 20:24 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:21 Malinor wrote:
One year ago EffOrt was believed to be the next zerg overmind, and now everyone is like he is the worst zerg ever.


Yes, and a year ago bisu was a monster, and now everyone is like he is the worst protoss ever.

your point?


Did Bisu reach the OSL final 10 minutes ago? He was lucky in the group stages, so what, he is 2-0/3-0 afterwards. And my point is he has shown S-Class play before, he was slumping, but now he obviously isn't.

Should not be to hard to understand.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
May 14 2010 11:30 GMT
#872
On May 14 2010 20:29 dtnmang wrote:
I predict a 3-0 OSL final in favor of Flash.


thats not a prediction, thats merely more of a fact bound to happen
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 14 2010 11:31 GMT
#873
The finals will definitely not be 3-0. Even with Movie, who sucks at PvT, it was 3-1, where Flash lost in the late game.
GANDHISAUCE
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 14 2010 11:31 GMT
#874
On May 14 2010 20:28 Demand2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:24 moopie wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:21 Malinor wrote:
One year ago EffOrt was believed to be the next zerg overmind, and now everyone is like he is the worst zerg ever.


Yes, and a year ago bisu was a monster, and now everyone is like he is the worst protoss ever.

your point?


Bisu has nothing to be embarassed of, he's given us years of dominance and great play. Effort disappointed us all by starting to slump in the middle of his rise to fame. But I'm delighted that he's started showing his true self again, though this series was hardly the most convincing 3-0 rape.


How was this series not convincing? it was like the worst roflstomp ever.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
May 14 2010 11:32 GMT
#875
]
On May 14 2010 20:13 J1.au wrote:
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On May 14 2010 20:11 Vasoline73 wrote:
Gayyyyyyyyyy. Why the fuck is Match Point always the map played twice for Flash? Get that shit out of the map pool already.

Yikes, Flash is 3-4 versus Zerg on this map.

At least he has time to prepare.


Well, lets look at how he lost those 4 games:

v JD: No turrets in main, gets owned by 12p lair
v Zero: Turret it main this time but still skimps turrets and gets owned by 12p lair
v Hyun: Skimps turrets gets owned once again by early mutas (forget the exact build)

vs Hyvaa is the only 1 he lost that wasn't in the early game (Fine, v Hyun lasted like 30 minutes but it was well over after the muta harass in the beginning).

I'm sure if flash decides to even cut scvs for 5 seconds to get like 2 extra turrets up its no prob. The natural mineral line is a nightmare to defend from uta harass
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
May 14 2010 11:32 GMT
#876
On May 14 2010 20:30 emoniax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:29 dtnmang wrote:
I predict a 3-0 OSL final in favor of Flash.


thats not a prediction, thats merely more of a fact bound to happen

and that is a lie
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 14 2010 11:32 GMT
#877
On May 14 2010 20:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:28 Demand2k wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:24 moopie wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:21 Malinor wrote:
One year ago EffOrt was believed to be the next zerg overmind, and now everyone is like he is the worst zerg ever.


Yes, and a year ago bisu was a monster, and now everyone is like he is the worst protoss ever.

your point?


Bisu has nothing to be embarassed of, he's given us years of dominance and great play. Effort disappointed us all by starting to slump in the middle of his rise to fame. But I'm delighted that he's started showing his true self again, though this series was hardly the most convincing 3-0 rape.


How was this series not convincing? it was like the worst roflstomp ever.

Worst roflstomp ever? Have you seen Flash's latest Bo5's?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
May 14 2010 11:32 GMT
#878
On May 14 2010 20:29 7mk wrote:
One question:

Would anyone rather have a shine vs flash finals?

If the answer is yes you must be insane


good point lol. shine rofl
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
May 14 2010 11:32 GMT
#879
On May 14 2010 20:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:28 Demand2k wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:24 moopie wrote:
On May 14 2010 20:21 Malinor wrote:
One year ago EffOrt was believed to be the next zerg overmind, and now everyone is like he is the worst zerg ever.


Yes, and a year ago bisu was a monster, and now everyone is like he is the worst protoss ever.

your point?


Bisu has nothing to be embarassed of, he's given us years of dominance and great play. Effort disappointed us all by starting to slump in the middle of his rise to fame. But I'm delighted that he's started showing his true self again, though this series was hardly the most convincing 3-0 rape.


How was this series not convincing? it was like the worst roflstomp ever.


...because its how every good zerg beats every single protoss since the fall of Bisu.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
May 14 2010 11:33 GMT
#880
On May 14 2010 20:30 emoniax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 20:29 dtnmang wrote:
I predict a 3-0 OSL final in favor of Flash.


thats not a prediction, thats merely more of a fact bound to happen
"predict" implies Effort still have a chance (albeit very small) to take 1 or 2 games from Flash.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
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