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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1988 Posts
May 14 2010 10:00 GMT
#281
That felt like a really old-school game, and not in a good way.
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
May 14 2010 10:00 GMT
#282
GG! Nice, only two more! Think Effort has a better chance (although really small, sadly) against Flash.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 14 2010 10:00 GMT
#283
Probably going to see another protoss get 0-3'ed here
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
May 14 2010 10:00 GMT
#284
if kal hadn't attacked out of his ramp like that I wonder if he'd have had enough zealots to break effort's lings and do more damage... hmm. I haven't seen a PvZ like that in forever...
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 14 2010 10:00 GMT
#285
The speedling attack delayed the speedlot rush just long enough for effort to get out those 3 muta and it was gg from there. If effort hadn't gotten all those lings right off, he probably would have lost at least one base or had to throw down too many sunkens.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
May 14 2010 10:01 GMT
#286
On May 14 2010 19:00 vietboi wrote:
What build did kal go for really? I came in to the stream a little late and did see the start. Only saw 3 gates and no probes mining gas when i came into the stream.


1 Base Fake Stargate into 3 Gate Speedlot timing attack.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 14 2010 10:01 GMT
#287
On May 14 2010 19:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 18:58 SuperArc wrote:
WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY SO GOOD, Effort?

So sexy ling bust!!


That wasnt so good, Effort flipped a coin and got it right, he was going 3hat speedling all in, and if Kal waited before going down ramp Effort would've been crushed.

Oh well, all in all he could do at that point after taking a 3rd.


Kal should have known Effort goes mass speedlings once he saw Effort getting a third.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 14 2010 10:01 GMT
#288
On May 14 2010 19:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Kal still has trouble with the top zvp players, if that was (P)Movie playing it would have been a story.


We dont have to hear about this every single thread. It doesnt matter if Movie has better PvZ than Kal because he is out of this OSL and is not playing right now.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 14 2010 10:01 GMT
#289
On May 14 2010 19:00 vietboi wrote:
What build did kal go for really? I came in to the stream a little late and did see the start. Only saw 3 gates and no probes mining gas when i came into the stream.


+1 speed zealot rush. He faked a stargate while hiding his citadel, but it got spotted when the lings got in his main and effort got a spire.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#290
On May 14 2010 19:00 khellian wrote:
GG! Nice, only two more! Think Effort has a better chance (although really small, sadly) against Flash.


Lol, the only terrans he has beat this year are go.go and Fantasy
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
May 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#291
On May 14 2010 19:00 vietboi wrote:
What build did kal go for really? I came in to the stream a little late and did see the start. Only saw 3 gates and no probes mining gas when i came into the stream.

1 gate tech
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#292
On May 14 2010 19 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              14 2010 19      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 18:58 SuperArc wrote:
WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY SO GOOD, Effort?

So sexy ling bust!!


That wasnt so good, Effort flipped a coin and got it right, he was going 3hat speedling all in, and if Kal waited before going down ramp Effort would've been crushed.

Oh well, all in all he could do at that point after taking a 3rd.


Yes, when you're on 3 bases and your opponent is on 1, making a lot of speedlings is definitely considered an allin.

...

Seriously?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
May 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#293
How was it all-in..? Kal was on one base. Effort could afford producing alot of units right??
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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
May 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#294
wrong strategy by Kal, great counter by Effort.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
May 14 2010 10:03 GMT
#295
APM 458/415
Max apm 520+
LOL
the slogans
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 14 2010 10:03 GMT
#296
So they both averaged 400plus APM? wow.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4730 Posts
May 14 2010 10:03 GMT
#297
I'm just curious since I really have no idea: 3gate speedlot push, shouldn't he get a fast +1 upgrade to make it much more effective or is it just to expensive/ late to get? +1 speedlots would have raped those lings so hard.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 14 2010 10:04 GMT
#298
On May 14 2010 19:03 Malinor wrote:
I'm just curious since I really have no idea: 3gate speedlot push, shouldn't he get a fast +1 upgrade to make it much more effective or is it just to expensive/ late to get? +1 speedlots would have raped those lings so hard.


he had +1
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Mekexi
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland18 Posts
May 14 2010 10:04 GMT
#299
On May 14 2010 19:02 Elroi wrote:
How was it all-in..? Kal was on one base. Effort could afford producing alot of units right??

Yeah, it was all-in only on Kal's side. Effort just made enough Lings to keep Toss at bay and pumped some more Drones once he felt a little bit safer. Nothing weird, just proper counter to unorthodox strat.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 14 2010 10:04 GMT
#300
On May 14 2010 19 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              14 2010 19      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:04 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 19:03 Malinor wrote:
I'm just curious since I really have no idea: 3gate speedlot push, shouldn't he get a fast +1 upgrade to make it much more effective or is it just to expensive/ late to get? +1 speedlots would have raped those lings so hard.


he had +1

That was waaay later.
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