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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 13 2010 11:54 GMT
#801
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 11:57 GMT
#802
On May 13 2010 19:56 darktreb wrote:
It feels so good to have always been a Flash fan right now.

If you had told me in July of 2009 that this would happen ... I mean in March 2008 I was ready to say this was going to happen for sure, but then it took 20 months for him to make another final. 20 long and dark months of underachieving.

And now this.


Yeah it feels amazing I wanted this to happen back when reach first told us about flash in an interview... like back in late 2007...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 13 2010 11:58 GMT
#803
On May 13 2010 20:54 streamofhonour wrote:
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain

Nope, Flash is more talented than anyone who has ever played the game. You will not become Flash no matter how much you practise. The kid is so smart.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
May 13 2010 11:59 GMT
#804
2443 peak and 2318 vP, crazy.

I like how his peaks are 2316, 2318, and 2320 I think it sums up Flash pretty well.
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
May 13 2010 12:03 GMT
#805
Flash is now 71.32% in TvP. This is ridiculous.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
May 13 2010 12:09 GMT
#806
On May 13 2010 20:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:16 krndandaman wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:12 Kazius wrote:
SC3 plot: Admiral Flash takes control of the Terran forces. Protoss and Zerg die. The end.


SC4 plot: Admiral Flash spreads his seed over the world and creates his own race.

...which leads to the destruction of all 3 other races.


new sc3 terran unit: Admiral Flash.

I would think most sc3 units would be pretty new at this point in time.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 13 2010 12:12 GMT
#807
On May 13 2010 20:47 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:16 krndandaman wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:12 Kazius wrote:
SC3 plot: Admiral Flash takes control of the Terran forces. Protoss and Zerg die. The end.


SC4 plot: Admiral Flash spreads his seed over the world and creates his own race.

...which leads to the destruction of all 3 other races.


new sc3 terran unit: Admiral Flash.

that unit would require that SCVs mine Pocari Sweat instead of minerals. and I'm pretty sure they don't have Pocari Sweat on alien worlds, only in Korea...
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:19:42
May 13 2010 12:19 GMT
#808
I love Flash.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:21:55
May 13 2010 12:20 GMT
#809
has any1 noticed that flash has lost exactly 1 tvp and 1 tvz since last seasons finals?

the kid´s not from this world.

now there is only one elo record not held by flash: vZ peak elo....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 12:25 GMT
#810
On May 13 2010 21:20 Black Gun wrote:
has any1 noticed that flash has lost exactly 1 tvp and 1 tvz since last seasons finals?


I didn't think of that. Now that's really impressive considering how many games he has played.
Losing one game in between consecutive dual SL finals... uhm..
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:36:48
May 13 2010 12:34 GMT
#811
I think Free went 12 nex two times in a row because he thought he would do a better job than Pure if he gotten away with it. As far as I remember when Flash played Pure, only in game 1 Flash proxy raxed and in the next 2 consecutive games he just let Pure have his 12 nex advantage only to crush him later. Free must have thought that Flash will do the same thing, allow him to 12 nex and then used his own strategies to try and win, but as we saw Flash didn't want none of that .

By the end of game 2 Free realized that Flash won't just let him 12nex and thus played standard and felt into Flash's trap ( OMG IT'S A TARP etc ) who just casually abused the fact that he was ahead 2-0 and also the fact that Free was a nerve wreck after the second bunker rush.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 13 2010 12:37 GMT
#812
On May 13 2010 20:58 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:54 streamofhonour wrote:
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain

Nope, Flash is more talented than anyone who has ever played the game. You will not become Flash no matter how much you practise. The kid is so smart.


Right. Hes a monster right now and only jaedong can beat him. I must admit that he has to have had practiced so much that our feeble minds can not comprehend it. But talented? I dunno, cause if he was really talented then he wouldnt need such a long time to show us that impressive play..
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:42:18
May 13 2010 12:41 GMT
#813
On May 13 2010 21:25 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 21:20 Black Gun wrote:
has any1 noticed that flash has lost exactly 1 tvp and 1 tvz since last seasons finals?


I didn't think of that. Now that's really impressive considering how many games he has played.
Losing one game in between consecutive dual SL finals... uhm..

Try 48-7 (87.3%) since the last MSL finals - in which 5 of his losses are in TvT, where he is the best ever by far. Crazy. And if that's crazy then the consecutive dual SL finals is batshit insane. I'm not even gonna start with his Elo, or his winners league abuse of any and all opposition. To think he's got a couple of years (at the very least) before the average age in which progamers peak in skill... Maybe Blizzard could release a patch to nerf him or something?
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
May 13 2010 12:43 GMT
#814
On May 13 2010 21:37 streamofhonour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:58 Holgerius wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:54 streamofhonour wrote:
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain

Nope, Flash is more talented than anyone who has ever played the game. You will not become Flash no matter how much you practise. The kid is so smart.


Right. Hes a monster right now and only jaedong can beat him. I must admit that he has to have had practiced so much that our feeble minds can not comprehend it. But talented? I dunno, cause if he was really talented then he wouldnt need such a long time to show us that impressive play..


He's been impressive since his debt and he revolutionized TvP at the age of 15. If that isn't talent I don't know what is.

This isn't the first time Flash has dominated you know. He's been the best terran for a long time.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 13 2010 12:44 GMT
#815
On May 13 2010 21:37 streamofhonour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:58 Holgerius wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:54 streamofhonour wrote:
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain

Nope, Flash is more talented than anyone who has ever played the game. You will not become Flash no matter how much you practise. The kid is so smart.


Right. Hes a monster right now and only jaedong can beat him. I must admit that he has to have had practiced so much that our feeble minds can not comprehend it. But talented? I dunno, cause if he was really talented then he wouldnt need such a long time to show us that impressive play..

Flash showed this impressive play already in 2008, when he was 15 years old. It's just that he kept losing (only) the most important games for over a year. There was never any question about his talent, only that he repeatedly failed to convert it into Starleague titles. Arguably this was due to a lack of maturity as a player, which he now seems to have developed (and look at the results).
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:52:11
May 13 2010 12:48 GMT
#816
Guys, it's official. TvZ is Flash's WORST matchup. Lol.

All: 297-115 (72.09%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W
vT: 103-36 (74.10%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W W L W W W W W
vZ: 97-40 (70.80%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W L W W W
vP: 97-39 (71.32%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W


by 1 game, I know, but still.... somewhat ridiculous.

Flash is the Roger Federer of Starcraft. He's breaking every single record out there. JD is Nadal. Flash just needs to beat JD in a legit battle to shut all the critics up lol (poor Fed)
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
May 13 2010 12:51 GMT
#817
On May 13 2010 21:37 streamofhonour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:58 Holgerius wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:54 streamofhonour wrote:
Flash dint get here due to talent. He made it here after sheer practice, gaining experience as the overworked KT ace and getting thrown into all sorts of crappy situations for a long time period of nearly 2 years after he cheesed bisu out of osl. So savor it flash, because this is where it all paid off, and show that all the time u were overworked were not in vain

Nope, Flash is more talented than anyone who has ever played the game. You will not become Flash no matter how much you practise. The kid is so smart.


Right. Hes a monster right now and only jaedong can beat him. I must admit that he has to have had practiced so much that our feeble minds can not comprehend it. But talented? I dunno, cause if he was really talented then he wouldnt need such a long time to show us that impressive play..

That's just the wrong perspective. It's a combination of talent and hard work - because with all due respect, how many titles did Jaedong, SaviOr, BoxeR or NaDa have at the age of 17? His first win he got by on talent, luck (cheese working out, lucky scouting, etc), and just a good streak for that time, but his game was still far from mature. Just as chess players have child prodigies that manage to surprise grand masters, but none of them can do it consistently without at least a decade of insane amounts of practice to bring their fundamental skills up to par, in BW it takes years to bring your mechanics and instincts to the highest levels. Now, finally, those have caught up with his natural talent - and luck is no longer a factor in his wins.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:56:07
May 13 2010 12:52 GMT
#818
On May 13 2010 21:48 Wings wrote:
Guys, it's official. TvZ is Flash's WORST matchup. Lol.

Show nested quote +
All: 297-115 (72.09%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W
vT: 103-36 (74.10%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L W W L W W W W W
vZ: 97-40 (70.80%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W L W W W
vP: 97-39 (71.32%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W W W

Flash is the Roger Federer of Starcraft. He's breaking every single record out there. JD is Nadal. Flash just needs to beat JD in a legit battle to shut all the critics up lol (poor Fed)

Not really. The main reason for his TvZ winrate being the lowest is because of Jaedong. About 15 of the 40 losses were to JD. On the other hand, there hasn't been a terran or protoss player who can seriously compete with him.

Also, the analogy doesn't work because Jaedong has more starleagues under his name than Flash, whereas Nadal has nowhere as many grand slams as Federer.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 13 2010 12:54 GMT
#819
flash's imba, needs nerf
BW is back
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 13 2010 13:03 GMT
#820
On May 13 2010 20:12 Kazius wrote:
SC3 plot: Admiral Flash takes control of the Terran forces. Protoss and Zerg die. The end.



hahahahaha
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
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