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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 23 2010 10:28 GMT
#341
On April 23 2010 19:25 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 19:21 Shotcoder wrote:
On April 23 2010 19:20 moopie wrote:
Still don't understand baby's opening (looked like 13cc, but in-base). floating it over cost the bo advantage.


14cc inbase protects you from early marines since you can drill the entrance or ramp. he didnt expect flash to 14rx, 15 cc or whatever he did so he was going for the safe choice.


I believe that was a 13cc in-base. On a 4-player map like Eye of the Storm, your opponent isnt likely to go for a very early marine push (hence why people 14cc on it all the time).


yea but flash has also been know to build his rax forward for faster scouting. and overall it makes the build safer. I don't know what build flash did. 13rax 14 cc? Flash's rax and BaBy's CC went down almost simo. so idk.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 23 2010 10:28 GMT
#342
Well Baby's CC actually landed at the nat a split second before Flash's CC finished at his nat so it was no big deal.

Movie gets the slimmer and prettier boothgirl!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
April 23 2010 10:28 GMT
#343
Baby is the future of terran. no doubt about it. But will stay below the Ultimate Weapon as long as he still plays
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
April 23 2010 10:28 GMT
#344
What is interesting its ~1.5K spectators on both streams combined while last nights SC2 showmatch got ~6k. Appears that SCII will bring revival to SC scene even if its just curiosity.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 23 2010 10:29 GMT
#345
Wow, they don't consider Pure to have any recent record vP?

Damn the chubby boothgirl is an eyesore.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 23 2010 10:29 GMT
#346
On April 23 2010 19:28 emoniax wrote:
Baby is the future of terran. no doubt about it. But will stay below the Ultimate Weapon as long as he still plays

You don't really believe that do you?
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 23 2010 10:30 GMT
#347
Wow pure's last 10 vs P is 3-7, ugly.

Still, I have hope he can pull through!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 23 2010 10:30 GMT
#348
On April 23 2010 19:28 Zona wrote:
Well Baby's CC actually landed at the nat a split second before Flash's CC finished at his nat so it was no big deal.

Movie gets the slimmer and prettier boothgirl!



im in LOVE with that booth girl.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 23 2010 10:30 GMT
#349
movie dominates the weird graph
BW is back
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 23 2010 10:31 GMT
#350
dont like movie but hes prolly gunna win..
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 10:44:24
April 23 2010 10:31 GMT
#351
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
DefectiveGnome
Profile Joined November 2008
45 Posts
April 23 2010 10:32 GMT
#352
I think Pure will win because he has better hair.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 10:33:09
April 23 2010 10:32 GMT
#353
On April 23 2010 19:31 Katsuge wrote:
dont like movie but hes prolly gunna win..

Yeah...

But one can hope!

E:
On April 23 2010 19:32 DefectiveGnome wrote:
I think Pure will win because he has better hair.

Hah, if only it was the case!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 23 2010 10:33 GMT
#354
what is that poouch that pure had in his hand there??
emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
April 23 2010 10:33 GMT
#355
another wemadeFOX player going down here
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 23 2010 10:35 GMT
#356
I wonder if Flash's off-races are strong too. Savior had a great Terran as well during his prime.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 23 2010 10:35 GMT
#357
MY GOD THAT BOOTHGIRL IS BEAUTIFUL
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 23 2010 10:35 GMT
#358
On April 23 2010 19:25 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 19:22 Qwertify wrote:
On April 23 2010 19:21 Kwanroller wrote:
Baby with quite a bit more APM than Flash. Like 50 more.


And Flash had about 50 more EAPM.


Unless I'm reading the table wrong, Baby was around 350-450-250 and Flash was around 300-400-200. Isn't one of the values EAPM?


What I mean is, I think many people on TL would agree with me, is that APM does not matter if you don't put it to good use, or you can't make good decisions to benefit from that high APM.

In a simple case, I can just spam hot keys to get a really high APM but still be a lousy player because of all the button pressing, not much is happening.

On a more complicated level, even if all those actions go to act on a strategy, who cares if you can make more movements when those movements, on a larger strategic levels are not your best moves available to you. It just reverts back to the simple model because there you are also doing a lot of button pressing but it is not putting into motion the best strategy possible for you. In fact, that is an exaggerted case if you want to consider the possibility that at that level one can control the high APM rather than spam it.

You might say that, well if Baby made all the right decision, as well as Flash, then he should win because he has a higher APM. In this case, Baby would win because his micro/macro game would be more exact and prolific. But I really don't think that Flash can't keep up with Baby. His strategy does not require the need for such high APM, which may add to the stability and consistency of his game play. (NaDa for instance has an APM of over 450, but this was true even when he began to lose games about a year ago.)

So when you have two A listers, APM is fun to look at, but APM does not win games, and I refure to try to draw concrete conclusions from them other than that those players can hit such high APMs in playing a high level game.
CJ Entusman #24
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 23 2010 10:35 GMT
#359
On April 23 2010 19:28 Zona wrote:
Movie gets the slimmer and prettier boothgirl!

That means he's destined to win. I think they covered that in that episode of 7224.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 23 2010 10:36 GMT
#360
On April 23 2010 19:28 Zona wrote:
Well Baby's CC actually landed at the nat a split second before Flash's CC finished at his nat so it was no big deal.

Movie gets the slimmer and prettier boothgirl!


As always because he is a stud.
CJ Entusman #24
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