EPTFlash just overpowered Baby with more units, and then the finisher with the drops in the main.
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Zona
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Flash just overpowered Baby with more units, and then the finisher with the drops in the main. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:18 Zona wrote: Starving him out? After Flash dropped Baby's early 3rd at 9 at the beginning of the game, Flash was always ahead by at least 1 mining base the entire game. Maybe you missed the point in the game where the only operational expos were Baby had 9 and Flash had 3 but Baby's 9 was much more fresh. This was immediately following Flash's drops getting killed by mines and baby forcing 12 to lift. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:21 Kwanroller wrote: Baby with quite a bit more APM than Flash. Like 50 more. And Flash had about 50 more EAPM. | ||
boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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emoniax
Philippines81 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:21 integral wrote: Interestingly, baby's turtling combined with his use of vultures for both mines and harass is a passable counter to flash's mass-drops-with-macro-advantage style. Flash was actually in danger there momentarily. Mmm. If Baby moved his tanks a bit more towards 12 and stopped Flash from mining there (when Flash was mining with his off-placed CC) the game might have been a lot closer. | ||
moopie
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:22 Zona wrote: Baby with higher APM that game in all 3 categories. Flash just overpowered Baby with more units, and then the finisher with the drops in the main. BTW I think Nada consistently has an APM over 400 while Flash stays around the 350 area. Additionally, when sAviOr, when he was still good, was beating Nada's 450+ APM with an APM of about 250. I know it is different races in that case, but I don't think APM at this level is something that is too important. Really, it is only good for diagnosing game play that might be too slow. | ||
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Beachac
United States278 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:22 Zona wrote: Baby with higher APM that game in all 3 categories. Flash just overpowered Baby with more units, and then the finisher with the drops in the main. flash had higher eapm. which is all that matters. | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:22 boesthius wrote: it's the metal remix of Gee done by LemonWalrus here on tl Thanks.  | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:22 revy wrote: Maybe you missed the point in the game where the only operational expos were Baby had 9 and Flash had 3 but Baby's 9 was much more fresh. This was immediately following Flash's drops getting killed by mines and baby forcing 12 to lift. Baby only forced 12 to lift for short moments when you're talking about that point in the game. After than Flash had the right side up and running a lot earlier than Baby's left side. To discuss starving someone out you can't just consider only their current mining ability but their short term potential too. | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
Unless I'm reading the table wrong, Baby was around 350-450-250 and Flash was around 300-400-200. Isn't one of the values EAPM? Hang on, nope I'm stupid as fuck never mind. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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moopie
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On April 23 2010 19:21 Shotcoder wrote: 14cc inbase protects you from early marines since you can drill the entrance or ramp. he didnt expect flash to 14rx, 15 cc or whatever he did so he was going for the safe choice. I believe that was a 13cc in-base. On a 4-player map like Eye of the Storm, your opponent isnt likely to go for a very early marine push (hence why people 14cc on it all the time). | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:25 o[twist] wrote: baby should have built more scvs, taken gas at the 8 o'clock base, etc. hard to say all of these things in isolation. Maybe if Baby built more scvs, he'd have less vultures and wouldn't have been able to pull off so much harassment of Flash's bases? Baby played very well considering his opponent. | ||
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JDizz6688
United States177 Posts
On April 23 2010 19:25 Kwanroller wrote: Unless I'm reading the table wrong, Baby was around 350-450-250 and Flash was around 300-400-200. Isn't one of the values EAPM? no it's average/high/low | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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