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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 04 2010 07:18 GMT
#2541
He was never losing to sea even a little bit in that match.
Remember Violet.
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
April 04 2010 07:38 GMT
#2542
On April 04 2010 16:18 TwoToneTerran wrote:
He was never losing to sea even a little bit in that match.

he was never losing, but he did almost lose.
At the biggest upset of all of bw, Shanghai SPL finals 2011
fly.stat
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States449 Posts
April 04 2010 07:59 GMT
#2543
Flash is the most stunning and destructive force starcraft has ever witnessed...but apparently you need to do more than that to be the king.

Anti flash fans make me laugh. Really, it's comical.
Until I write you again, take care of your precious person.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 04 2010 08:06 GMT
#2544
On April 04 2010 12:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 12:37 mmdmmd wrote:
Jaehoon sent out his 2 carriers early because he thought Flash is pushing him after he scanned his carrier build. But in real fact Flash just did a push at a very critical moment without knowing it before hand.

A bit of luck I guess.


Flash pushed because Jaehoon had a tiny ass army and didn't even try to push out onto the map. When protoss isn't probing you with dragoons then you know he's rushing carriers or mass expanding, either of which means you push hard and, just incase of carriers, research goliath range the way Flash did when he was pushing (notice how the observer was focused on Flash's machine shop while he was pushing).

Jaehoon could've waited for 2 more carriers to pop but he might've lost his nexus and, frankly, you can't afford to lose mining time when you carrier rush off 2 1/2 bases.

Flash was lucky because they didn't spawn cross positions. If so his push would've been late and Jaehoon definitely would've had four carriers and more goons waiting to crush Flash's goliathless army.


Nah, Flash didn't research range until he saw the Carriers
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 04 2010 08:40 GMT
#2545
Lol I like how everybody is arguing over the Bonjwa/Jaehoon's carriers and such and MrHoon is just like WOOOO GOLD.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
April 04 2010 08:43 GMT
#2546
Hi, I'm Flash. I don't lose.
Graphics
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
April 04 2010 10:52 GMT
#2547
The last 2 years of being a KT fan through their worst slumps has finally paid off!
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 04 2010 11:23 GMT
#2548
On April 04 2010 12:03 Xiphos wrote:
That's it! Flash on my FPL next round with Stork go go and go! Sea actually was ahead at some point in the game versus Flash but he made too much damn Turrets and kept all his tanks inside of his base I mean WTF MAN! That's at least 10 Turrets! You can probably made some more factories or units and the amount of mining time the SCVs wasted! And PLUS he kept his units in his base instead of using them against Flash was a HUGE mistake. But I guess if you are playing against Flash, you would want to be as safe as possible.


Yep, Sea was ahead early on in the game but towards the halfway point he started to play really safe and standard (which typifies his individual league play) and started losing the game. You gotta take some risks against Flash, that might end badly but safe and standard guarantees a loss.

I like Sea so I was disappointed in the manner in which he lost. It's a mental hurdle he's gotta overcome but at least in the early part of the game he played better than the last time these two met.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 04 2010 13:04 GMT
#2549
I'm not a fan of flash, in fact I'm more of an anti-fan, but there's no doubt in my mind that flash is the bonjwa now. He is the player nobody (in their right mind) would want to face. I'm a Jaedong fan but flash is now far more scary than Jaedong ever managed to be (unfortunately). I think if Flash had gone on first he would have beaten light as well.
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 04 2010 22:18 GMT
#2550
Why not just wait for the Korean SC community to declare someone bonjwa instead of pointless arguing.
quote? what quote?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8197 Posts
April 04 2010 22:25 GMT
#2551
I'm a huge Flash fan but I don't think he's bonjwa.

Yay for kt gold, but I would rather see the rest of the team shape up and win themselves the PL final.
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
April 04 2010 23:08 GMT
#2552
Liquipedia calls Flash a "near bonjwa."
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
April 04 2010 23:15 GMT
#2553
This is pretty much exactly what I wanted to see.

Thanks to the first couple MBC guys for winning, it gave Flash more games to make up
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Ret.
Profile Joined June 2009
Brazil33 Posts
April 04 2010 23:49 GMT
#2554
aaah, i was hoping for an reverse all kill from flash, but this 3-kill was ass kicking anyway ... gg
FLASH IS A MONSTER!!!
Nuclear launch detected
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 04 2010 23:50 GMT
#2555
On April 05 2010 07:18 theramstoss wrote:
Why not just wait for the Korean SC community to declare someone bonjwa instead of pointless arguing.


Because the OGN commentators have all already agreed out loud that Flash is "probably beyond Bonjwa" after he (not KT) won WL?

but I'm personally tired of this talk. Can we talk about something else? Like betting who can take a game off Flash before he inevitably wins Golden Mouse?
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 05 2010 00:36 GMT
#2556
On April 05 2010 08:50 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 07:18 theramstoss wrote:
Why not just wait for the Korean SC community to declare someone bonjwa instead of pointless arguing.


Because the OGN commentators have all already agreed out loud that Flash is "probably beyond Bonjwa" after he (not KT) won WL?

but I'm personally tired of this talk. Can we talk about something else? Like betting who can take a game off Flash before he inevitably wins Golden Mouse?


John McEnroe can declare Federer the greatest of all time after he wins the 6th wimbledon but that doesn't mean the fans agree. The OGN commentators are not the same as the Korean SC community. Jaedong and bisu have both had their periods of dominance just like flash is having his now. It's premature to call him bonjwa.
quote? what quote?
SVN-ShaS
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia258 Posts
April 05 2010 00:38 GMT
#2557
FlaSh is god ...

Why he need to be a king of Starcraft ?
I love FlaSh !!!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 05 2010 00:58 GMT
#2558
KT Flash, KT Flash.

Typical situation of Flash > All.

God damn it, MBC.

Also, where the heck was Hyungjun?
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 05 2010 01:13 GMT
#2559
On April 05 2010 09:36 theramstoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 08:50 Wings wrote:
On April 05 2010 07:18 theramstoss wrote:
Why not just wait for the Korean SC community to declare someone bonjwa instead of pointless arguing.


Because the OGN commentators have all already agreed out loud that Flash is "probably beyond Bonjwa" after he (not KT) won WL?

but I'm personally tired of this talk. Can we talk about something else? Like betting who can take a game off Flash before he inevitably wins Golden Mouse?


John McEnroe can declare Federer the greatest of all time after he wins the 6th wimbledon but that doesn't mean the fans agree. The OGN commentators are not the same as the Korean SC community. Jaedong and bisu have both had their periods of dominance just like flash is having his now. It's premature to call him bonjwa.


Skillwise, current Flash is better Bisu and Jaedong in their periods of domination. ELO wise, flash's dominance is also better.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 05 2010 03:11 GMT
#2560
On April 05 2010 10:13 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 09:36 theramstoss wrote:
On April 05 2010 08:50 Wings wrote:
On April 05 2010 07:18 theramstoss wrote:
Why not just wait for the Korean SC community to declare someone bonjwa instead of pointless arguing.


Because the OGN commentators have all already agreed out loud that Flash is "probably beyond Bonjwa" after he (not KT) won WL?

but I'm personally tired of this talk. Can we talk about something else? Like betting who can take a game off Flash before he inevitably wins Golden Mouse?


John McEnroe can declare Federer the greatest of all time after he wins the 6th wimbledon but that doesn't mean the fans agree. The OGN commentators are not the same as the Korean SC community. Jaedong and bisu have both had their periods of dominance just like flash is having his now. It's premature to call him bonjwa.


Skillwise, current Flash is better Bisu and Jaedong in their periods of domination. ELO wise, flash's dominance is also better.


As favorites drop like flies in the individual leagues...Flash looks pretty damn set to take both Starleagues this season.

After that, he can be bonjwa. He can even be neo-bonjwa if people like that title better. There is no question he is the most skillful player in starcraft history.
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