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FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
April 03 2010 18:43 GMT
#2501
You guys are comparing Wayne Gretzky vs Sidney Crosby. What's the point?

Anyway. Flash is so dominant right now. Perhaps when he wins the OSL most of the Savior fanboys will shut up and finally realized their hero has been long surpassed.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
April 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#2502
People should clamour to make Flash a registered sex offender, what an utter rapist.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
April 03 2010 19:07 GMT
#2503
MBC put up a good fight. (T)Flash is just too imba.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
April 03 2010 19:21 GMT
#2504
wow, flash is such a beast... (Kira lol)
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 19:36:24
April 03 2010 19:27 GMT
#2505
Flash wins for KT again.

Man he's good.

Even tho they rocked in WL, KT still shouldn't be the fav to win the PL since recent play hasn't shown that there are 2 other players on the team who can consistantly win. The only reason Flash is on such a role atm and has such high stats (as fans have been quick to point out) is because he is being forced to win so many games for the team to advance. We'll see how this works in the PL where he can only go once, maybe twice if his team does their job.

(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)
bluetrolls
Profile Joined October 2009
United States139 Posts
April 03 2010 19:57 GMT
#2506
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months.


We are in April. Please check your maths
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
April 03 2010 20:09 GMT
#2507
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
Flash wins for KT again.

Man he's good.

Even tho they rocked in WL, KT still shouldn't be the fav to win the PL since recent play hasn't shown that there are 2 other players on the team who can consistantly win. The only reason Flash is on such a role atm and has such high stats (as fans have been quick to point out) is because he is being forced to win so many games for the team to advance. We'll see how this works in the PL where he can only go once, maybe twice if his team does their job.

(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)


So you mean he is been raping everybody left and right for only half an year!? -.-
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
April 03 2010 20:16 GMT
#2508
damnit
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
April 03 2010 20:22 GMT
#2509
I slept before finishing the fOrGG vs Sea game because I was too tired (it was like 7AM EST), but I honestly thought MBC had a chance... Sea was winning that game, it was Neo Moon Glaive next (Sea's map!), and MBC had 2 chances to snipe Flash even if Sea failed. O well, I guess Flash too good, lol.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 03 2010 20:23 GMT
#2510
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 03 2010 20:51 GMT
#2511
So yeah.
I just read through all of this.
I keep oversleeping.
Flash...
Oh Flash.
I call for a new TLFE on him (I'll spearhead the writing if nobody else will )

Flash.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 20:52:40
April 03 2010 20:52 GMT
#2512
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 21:09:59
April 03 2010 21:08 GMT
#2513
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


He's been the best Terran since late 2008 when he destroyed Stork in the (at the time) shortest OSL finals ever, revolutionized TvP forever, and cemented himself as the most dominant macro player in the world.

Fantasy was never better than Flash, despite what fanboys say. No he hasn't been dominating as #1 in the StarLeagues/etc. since he rose to the top 2 years ago but neither has Jaedong or any other player.

Keep in mind, during the days of NaDa/Iloveoov progamers played far less games. NaDa won simultaneous OSL/MSL with a lot of time to practice inbetween. The fact that Flash can get a Gold/Silver in one season with so little time to practice while still carrying his team through proleague is absolutely stunning.

"A single SL trophy"

What the fuck do you expect? When Flash wins double golds every season THEN he's really good? Don't be ridiculous. Winning a SL trophy means a lot. Winning an SL gold AND silver AND WL gold in the same season means more than NaDa's double starleague victory considering the modern progamer practice schedule.

Players like NaDa and Iloveoov didn't dominate as #1 through their first SL win to their last. It really says a lot that Flash has been the #1 Terran for so long, has never failed to qualify for the Starleagues since his debut in 2007, and has consistently and constantly innovated terran play through his short career.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 03 2010 21:09 GMT
#2514
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


Um, Flash has only played 1 season. Aside from Nada no one has won double titles (and Nada did it a month apart against the same player). He literally is still in the process of winning the others.

It'll take a couple of months but you'd be foolish to not think Flash will win a title this season.
Remember Violet.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 21:24:27
April 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#2515
On April 04 2010 06:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


Um, Flash has only played 1 season. Aside from Nada no one has won double titles (and Nada did it a month apart against the same player). He literally is still in the process of winning the others.

It'll take a couple of months but you'd be foolish to not think Flash will win a title this season.


Exactly... since he has only played 1 season the bonjwa talk is premature, which was the entire point of my post. I never once said he can't earn it or that it's some impossible platform that noone can ever attain again. Come back when he does win both this season and then i'll be on your side.

Having said that, he is certainly playing LIKE a bonjwa atm, and I don't see anyone stopping him from the trophies, especially en route to the golden mouse(especially since JD is out of the OSL now).

Also, funny how the poster 2 above is giving Flash credit for the WL win. Either he did it or it was a team venture, you can't have it both ways. I guess this seperates the Flash fanbois from the KT ones.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 03 2010 21:26 GMT
#2516
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


The problem is that Flash started his uber-dominance at the very beginning of the last season. This means that even though 6 months passed there were only 2 SL finals and hence he had only 2 chances to get a title. The fact that he got gold and silver is then very very meaningful. Unfortunately, Flash will have to keep this kind of surreal dominance for 2 more months to have a chance to win more titles.

NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 21:28:41
April 03 2010 21:28 GMT
#2517
On April 04 2010 06:22 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 06:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


Um, Flash has only played 1 season. Aside from Nada no one has won double titles (and Nada did it a month apart against the same player). He literally is still in the process of winning the others.

It'll take a couple of months but you'd be foolish to not think Flash will win a title this season.


Exactly... since he has only played 1 season the bonjwa talk is premature, which was the entire point of my post. I never once said he can't earn it or that it's some impossible platform that noone can ever attain again. Come back when he does win both this season and then i'll be on your side.

Having said that, he is certainly playing LIKE a bonjwa atm, and I don't see anyone stopping him from the trophies, especially en route to the golden mouse(especially since JD is out of the OSL now).

Also, funny how the poster 2 above is giving Flash credit for the WL win. Either he did it or it was a team venture, you can't have it both ways. I guess this seperates the Flash fanbois from the KT ones.


Since the win was 3/4ths Flash doing I think it's pretty safe to say it was pretty much Flash that got this win for KT. Has nothing to do with fanboyism.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
April 03 2010 21:53 GMT
#2518
On April 03 2010 21:59 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 21:57 konadora wrote:
ok, KT vs SKT 09-10 PROLEAGUE FINALS!!!!!!!!


Nah, Jaedong Oz vs KTFlash will be a lot more epic.

how would that be epic? its basically all filler games until a bo1 between Jaedong and Flash. I'd rather see Flash try to all-kill Fantasy-Bisu-Best again
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 03 2010 22:00 GMT
#2519
On April 04 2010 06:28 NurseArial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 06:22 On_Slaught wrote:
On April 04 2010 06:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:52 On_Slaught wrote:
On April 04 2010 05:23 Holgerius wrote:
On April 04 2010 04:27 On_Slaught wrote:
(And wow are Flash fans annoying... they act like he's been playing like this for years. A year ago he couldn't win a game that mattered for his life. He's only been this good since like Oct, which while still amazing, is still only a couple of months. GIve people time to figure him out)

Ya, Flash is still a fucking noob in my eyes. 6 months as unarguable #1, reigning OSL champion, MSL finalist, WL hero and ELO record breaking monster; he's got a lot to prove before I accept him as a half decent player.


Hyperbole doesn't help your argument. Nor does blatantly misreading mine.

The fact is over the time of this "dominance" he has only won a single SL trophy, while in the past there has been people who not only dominated for much longer periods of time, but also won a lot more hardware during that time.


Um, Flash has only played 1 season. Aside from Nada no one has won double titles (and Nada did it a month apart against the same player). He literally is still in the process of winning the others.

It'll take a couple of months but you'd be foolish to not think Flash will win a title this season.


Exactly... since he has only played 1 season the bonjwa talk is premature, which was the entire point of my post. I never once said he can't earn it or that it's some impossible platform that noone can ever attain again. Come back when he does win both this season and then i'll be on your side.

Having said that, he is certainly playing LIKE a bonjwa atm, and I don't see anyone stopping him from the trophies, especially en route to the golden mouse(especially since JD is out of the OSL now).

Also, funny how the poster 2 above is giving Flash credit for the WL win. Either he did it or it was a team venture, you can't have it both ways. I guess this seperates the Flash fanbois from the KT ones.


Since the win was 3/4ths Flash doing I think it's pretty safe to say it was pretty much Flash that got this win for KT. Has nothing to do with fanboyism.


Taking out Light in WL is as important as taking out Sea. Flash is one Jaehoon and one Tyson above Violet for this finals which, while significant, isn't wholly impressive for someone of Flash's caliber. Credit is due to Violet.

Same for ForGG. It's not like he choked, just barely lost to Sea.
Remember Violet.
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
April 03 2010 22:25 GMT
#2520
wooo ktflash
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
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