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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
April 03 2010 13:18 GMT
#2381
Flash broke the game =/
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 13:20:05
April 03 2010 13:19 GMT
#2382
On April 03 2010 22:16 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:13 Megalisk wrote:
On April 03 2010 22:12 KristianJS wrote:
Flash is bonjwa? :O


He has been but everyone here is too hesitant to call him that for some reason.

It's because Jaedong exists and all the Jaedong fans will throw a riot if we call Flash bonjwa when he only has 2 OSL titles versus Jaedong's 3, as well as Jaedong's MSL victory over Flash in the last MSL.


More importantly, it's neither TL nor a one-time remark by commentators that's going to make Flash bonjwa. Why the impatience from his fans? He's well on his way to win his Golden Mouse and maybe even the MSL, in which case he's sure to be recognized as a bonjwa. No need to press the issue.

Anyway, let's not turn this thread into a bonjwa/not-bonjwa flame fest. Go to the PR thread or something for that.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
ZnocK
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada23 Posts
April 03 2010 13:19 GMT
#2383
Flash new nick = The Ultimate Bonjwa Lol...
Flash ~~ Neo Bonjwa ~~ The Last Generation
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 13:20:09
April 03 2010 13:19 GMT
#2384
On April 03 2010 22:18 SuperArc wrote:
If anything we can surely call Flash a Proleague bonjwa he was never in a slump there.

He was never in a slump in the individual leagues either. Unlike Jaedong, Bisu and Stork, Flash has never failed to qualify for both OSL and MSL after he first qualified.

It's obviously not up to our expectations (obviously Flash should have surpassed Nada's in titles so far, lol), but his losses were generally reasonable and not due to any lack of skill or unusual funk.
Remember Violet.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#2385
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.
Bisu... ;-(
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#2386
On April 03 2010 22:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash at 2427 Elo with an >71% win rate. Almost over 70% in all three matchups (69.29% in TvP)

Can we call him bonjwa yet?

For a guy with such a high win rate, it's funny how he only has 2 titles.

I won't deny that Flash is playing really well as of late, almost unstoppable. Brings me to the days when Savior would rape everyone (except Chojja) on any given day. Nothing would stop him from that title. I just think Flash needs to show more results in Starleagues. Show me the titles. Oov is 4/4 in finals, Nada has like 6 titles, Savior was pretty much godlike when he won his 4. Flash's on the right direction though. Used to get bounced all the time by stupid things, but now he's consistently making it through in convincing fashion.
God Bless
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#2387
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.

Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals?
Remember Violet.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 03 2010 13:21 GMT
#2388
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.


Its not about how many finals you play in. It's about how good you are relative to everyone else. And Flash can only be compared to Nada and Oov(with July=JD) in that aspect, Boxer and Savior dont even come close.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 03 2010 13:21 GMT
#2389
On April 03 2010 22:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.

Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals?


The only real bonjwa. ma bonjwa.
Bisu... ;-(
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 03 2010 13:21 GMT
#2390
On April 03 2010 22:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:18 SuperArc wrote:
If anything we can surely call Flash a Proleague bonjwa he was never in a slump there.

He was never in a slump in the individual leagues either. Unlike Jaedong, Bisu and Stork, Flash has never failed to qualify for both OSL and MSL after he first qualified.

It's obviously not up to our expectations (obviously Flash should have surpassed Nada's in titles so far, lol), but his losses were generally reasonable and not due to any lack of skill or unusual funk.


14cc?

Jaedong even in taek-bang era "slump" reached MSL Ro8.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 03 2010 13:21 GMT
#2391
On April 03 2010 22:20 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash at 2427 Elo with an >71% win rate. Almost over 70% in all three matchups (69.29% in TvP)

Can we call him bonjwa yet?

For a guy with such a high win rate, it's funny how he only has 2 titles.

I won't deny that Flash is playing really well as of late, almost unstoppable. Brings me to the days when Savior would rape everyone (except Chojja) on any given day. Nothing would stop him from that title. I just think Flash needs to show more results in Starleagues. Show me the titles. Oov is 4/4 in finals, Nada has like 6 titles, Savior was pretty much godlike when he won his 4. Flash's on the right direction though. Used to get bounced all the time by stupid things, but now he's consistently making it through in convincing fashion.

He was in two finals last season. Not many players have managed that.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
April 03 2010 13:22 GMT
#2392
On April 03 2010 22:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:14 538 wrote:
On April 03 2010 22:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
2427 from 2418. 9 points. I was exactly right on Sea for 5 and Tyson and Jaehoon for 4 combined. :D

Wasnt it 6, 1 and 2 respectively?


I don't think Sea is worth six? Flash was like +150 points ahead of him, no matter the relative score. It may be that way but I've never seen an elo system not give out atleast 2 points for a win (mayhaps it's because of the big disparity in SC as opposed to other sports).

I was just saying that based on watching the TLPD update game by game, I didnt do any calculations. The rounding might play a small role, but it was at least 5.5.

fun fact: Flash is 80-20 in his last 100 games (since 09-07-19)
BW fighting!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 03 2010 13:22 GMT
#2393
On April 03 2010 22:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.

Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals?

Savior. Savior > Reach, Chojja > Savior, Savior > rA, Savior > Silver, Bisu > Savior
God Bless
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
April 03 2010 13:22 GMT
#2394
Flash = bonjwa God
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 03 2010 13:22 GMT
#2395
On April 03 2010 22:21 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.


Its not about how many finals you play in. It's about how good you are relative to everyone else. And Flash can only be compared to Nada and Oov(with July=JD) in that aspect, Boxer and Savior dont even come close.

You clearly did NOT see Savior play back in the days. That guy was unstoppable.
God Bless
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 03 2010 13:23 GMT
#2396
On April 03 2010 22:21 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 03 2010 22:18 SuperArc wrote:
If anything we can surely call Flash a Proleague bonjwa he was never in a slump there.

He was never in a slump in the individual leagues either. Unlike Jaedong, Bisu and Stork, Flash has never failed to qualify for both OSL and MSL after he first qualified.

It's obviously not up to our expectations (obviously Flash should have surpassed Nada's in titles so far, lol), but his losses were generally reasonable and not due to any lack of skill or unusual funk.


14cc?

Jaedong even in taek-bang era "slump" reached MSL Ro8.


14cc and not building turrets! Both silly ways to lose but neither showed a lack of skill so much as a bad choice of build orders. He never played BADLY, basically. And my point still stands that he ALWAYS qualifies. he may go out in group stages sometimes but that's not a slump -- it's not a big deal to lose 1-2.
Remember Violet.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
April 03 2010 13:23 GMT
#2397
Flash = Kira
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany419 Posts
April 03 2010 13:24 GMT
#2398
flash is like oov all over again
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 03 2010 13:24 GMT
#2399
On April 03 2010 22:22 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.

Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals?

Savior. Savior > Reach, Chojja > Savior, Savior > rA, Savior > Silver, Bisu > Savior


Oh haha, I entirely forgot to count Bisu's game. Jesus I just can't even think of that being savior when we talk about how good he was.
Remember Violet.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 03 2010 13:24 GMT
#2400
On April 03 2010 22:22 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2010 22:21 samachking wrote:
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote:
5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa.


Its not about how many finals you play in. It's about how good you are relative to everyone else. And Flash can only be compared to Nada and Oov(with July=JD) in that aspect, Boxer and Savior dont even come close.

You clearly did NOT see Savior play back in the days. That guy was unstoppable.

Savior was not as dominant as Flash is now...
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
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