EPT[SWL] Final - KT Rolster vs MBCGame HERO - Page 120
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:16 Kyo Yuy wrote: It's because Jaedong exists and all the Jaedong fans will throw a riot if we call Flash bonjwa when he only has 2 OSL titles versus Jaedong's 3, as well as Jaedong's MSL victory over Flash in the last MSL. More importantly, it's neither TL nor a one-time remark by commentators that's going to make Flash bonjwa. Why the impatience from his fans? He's well on his way to win his Golden Mouse and maybe even the MSL, in which case he's sure to be recognized as a bonjwa. No need to press the issue. Anyway, let's not turn this thread into a bonjwa/not-bonjwa flame fest. Go to the PR thread or something for that. | ||
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ZnocK
Canada23 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:18 SuperArc wrote: If anything we can surely call Flash a Proleague bonjwa he was never in a slump there. He was never in a slump in the individual leagues either. Unlike Jaedong, Bisu and Stork, Flash has never failed to qualify for both OSL and MSL after he first qualified. It's obviously not up to our expectations (obviously Flash should have surpassed Nada's in titles so far, lol), but his losses were generally reasonable and not due to any lack of skill or unusual funk. | ||
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:16 Hinanawi wrote: Flash at 2427 Elo with an >71% win rate. Almost over 70% in all three matchups (69.29% in TvP) Can we call him bonjwa yet? For a guy with such a high win rate, it's funny how he only has 2 titles. I won't deny that Flash is playing really well as of late, almost unstoppable. Brings me to the days when Savior would rape everyone (except Chojja) on any given day. Nothing would stop him from that title. I just think Flash needs to show more results in Starleagues. Show me the titles. Oov is 4/4 in finals, Nada has like 6 titles, Savior was pretty much godlike when he won his 4. Flash's on the right direction though. Used to get bounced all the time by stupid things, but now he's consistently making it through in convincing fashion. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote: 5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa. Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals? | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:20 SkytoM wrote: 5 back to back Finals guys. Five. Flash is NOT a bonjwa. Its not about how many finals you play in. It's about how good you are relative to everyone else. And Flash can only be compared to Nada and Oov(with July=JD) in that aspect, Boxer and Savior dont even come close. | ||
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:20 TwoToneTerran wrote: Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals? The only real bonjwa. ma bonjwa. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:19 TwoToneTerran wrote: He was never in a slump in the individual leagues either. Unlike Jaedong, Bisu and Stork, Flash has never failed to qualify for both OSL and MSL after he first qualified. It's obviously not up to our expectations (obviously Flash should have surpassed Nada's in titles so far, lol), but his losses were generally reasonable and not due to any lack of skill or unusual funk. 14cc?  Jaedong even in taek-bang era "slump" reached MSL Ro8. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:20 Roffles wrote: For a guy with such a high win rate, it's funny how he only has 2 titles. I won't deny that Flash is playing really well as of late, almost unstoppable. Brings me to the days when Savior would rape everyone (except Chojja) on any given day. Nothing would stop him from that title. I just think Flash needs to show more results in Starleagues. Show me the titles. Oov is 4/4 in finals, Nada has like 6 titles, Savior was pretty much godlike when he won his 4. Flash's on the right direction though. Used to get bounced all the time by stupid things, but now he's consistently making it through in convincing fashion. He was in two finals last season. Not many players have managed that. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:16 TwoToneTerran wrote: I don't think Sea is worth six? Flash was like +150 points ahead of him, no matter the relative score. It may be that way but I've never seen an elo system not give out atleast 2 points for a win (mayhaps it's because of the big disparity in SC as opposed to other sports). I was just saying that based on watching the TLPD update game by game, I didnt do any calculations. The rounding might play a small role, but it was at least 5.5  .fun fact: Flash is 80-20 in his last 100 games (since 09-07-19) | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:20 TwoToneTerran wrote: Um, what? Who has 5 back to back finals? Savior. Savior > Reach, Chojja > Savior, Savior > rA, Savior > Silver, Bisu > Savior | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:21 samachking wrote: Its not about how many finals you play in. It's about how good you are relative to everyone else. And Flash can only be compared to Nada and Oov(with July=JD) in that aspect, Boxer and Savior dont even come close. You clearly did NOT see Savior play back in the days. That guy was unstoppable. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:21 SuperArc wrote: 14cc? Jaedong even in taek-bang era "slump" reached MSL Ro8. 14cc and not building turrets! Both silly ways to lose but neither showed a lack of skill so much as a bad choice of build orders. He never played BADLY, basically. And my point still stands that he ALWAYS qualifies. he may go out in group stages sometimes but that's not a slump -- it's not a big deal to lose 1-2. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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yB.TeH
Germany419 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:22 Roffles wrote: Savior. Savior > Reach, Chojja > Savior, Savior > rA, Savior > Silver, Bisu > Savior Oh haha, I entirely forgot to count Bisu's game. Jesus I just can't even think of that being savior when we talk about how good he was. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:22 Roffles wrote: You clearly did NOT see Savior play back in the days. That guy was unstoppable. Savior was not as dominant as Flash is now... | ||
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