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On April 03 2010 22:06 DatTheMighty wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:04 revy wrote:On April 03 2010 21:58 meegrean wrote:On April 03 2010 21:56 Chen wrote:
seriously flash was not expecting carriers, had he let Flash push him to his third/nat while amassing 4-6 carriers he would've had a chance i think you had no idea how dangerous that push was. jaehoon needed to use his carriers immediately. The push was dangerous, yes, but it was only at 6 o clock when he showed the carriers. A little more dancing with ground units and giving away ground to his choke and he could've had more carriers and Flash would've spent more production cycles with tank/vult. That would've put Jaehoon in a better spot. That said, I still don't think it would have been enough. terrans always position tanks at the 6 expo to push. tanks are guarded from zealots and can reach the protoss army. everyone shouldn't assume flash was just gonna camp there.
Of course Flash wasn't planning on camping there I didn't think that he was, he was advancing at the proper speed. Jaehoon needed to let that push keep coming, let it get closer to his choke, then reveal 4 carriers. Flash would have done exactly as he did, pack up and run. The difference being he would have had further to run home to, Jaehoon would have had more 4 carriers instead of 2 at reveal, and Flash would've spent more cycles producing anti-ground.
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:10 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:07 johanes wrote:
ZnocK mod: even the commentator saying
ZnocK mod: flash is above bonjwa
ZnocK mod: its official
ZnocK mod: flash is bonjwa Please be true!
they said they need a new nickname for Flash, because 'bonjwa' just won't suit him. he's just that damn good.
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its like when nal_ra went to the kt house and he talked to hoejja and violet about playing vs flash.
summary:
hoejja: when you play against flash, you lose how it feels like to win
violet: after playing flash, i got sent to a one month slump
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On April 03 2010 22:04 JSH wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:02 Kvevil wrote:Game 7 Summary: + Show Spoiler +You see  Jaehoon? this is your gameplan for game against  Flash. Yeah, right, go dude and send 2 Carriers with couple Interceptors and show your hidden tech to Kespa No.1. Good luck. Congratulations to KT Rolster for fully deserved title. Apart from maybe game 2, this was disappointing final. All games were one-sided. Yeah I think he should not have taken his trump card out so fast... I was like WHY SO EEARLY!!! (I couldn't even spell right at my rage) of course, maybe he thought he couldn't defend Flash's push, except he wasn't attacking! He was trying to take that expansion --;;
It doesn't work that way, Jaehoon needed to use his carriers to make sure he didnt DIE right there and then... he had what, ~20 goons vs 15 vultures 12 tanks?
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On April 03 2010 22:09 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:08 Fionn wrote:
So does this mean KT can stopped being called the Proleague failures? They won a title. They won a one round title. Congrats to them! Come back and talk when KT wins an actual PL Grand Final.
We will, WE WILL !
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:10 Mystlord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:09 Roffles wrote:On April 03 2010 22:08 Fionn wrote:
So does this mean KT can stopped being called the Proleague failures? They won a title. They won a one round title. Congrats to them! Come back and talk when KT wins an actual PL Grand Final. Can KT rely on 2 other players to win other than Flash? .... Hahahahahahaahha
Hahaha. Good point. Ahh, no wonder KT and Yellow were on such great terms. Never won anything of real importance. Always good at special events though.
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The commentators said Flash was "above bonjwa"
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2427 from 2418. 9 points. I was exactly right on Sea for 5 and Tyson and Jaehoon for 4 combined. :D
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On April 03 2010 22:12 KristianJS wrote:
Flash is bonjwa? :O
He has been but everyone here is too hesitant to call him that for some reason.
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On April 03 2010 22:11 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:04 JSH wrote:On April 03 2010 22:02 Kvevil wrote:Game 7 Summary: + Show Spoiler +You see Jaehoon? this is your gameplan for game against Flash. Yeah, right, go dude and send 2 Carriers with couple Interceptors and show your hidden tech to Kespa No.1. Good luck. Congratulations to KT Rolster for fully deserved title. Apart from maybe game 2, this was disappointing final. All games were one-sided. Yeah I think he should not have taken his trump card out so fast... I was like WHY SO EEARLY!!! (I couldn't even spell right at my rage) of course, maybe he thought he couldn't defend Flash's push, except he wasn't attacking! He was trying to take that expansion --;; It doesn't work that way, Jaehoon needed to use his carriers to make sure he didnt DIE right there and then... he had what, ~20 goons vs 15 vultures 12 tanks?
This is what I have been saying. How long is Jaehoon gonna wait? He can't afford to risk losing any probes or nexus if the push gets too close.
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On April 03 2010 22:13 Megalisk wrote:He has been but everyone here is too hesitant to call him that for some reason.
I agree, but with Korean commentators outright saying it then that's something special....
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On April 03 2010 22:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
2427 from 2418. 9 points. I was exactly right on Sea for 5 and Tyson and Jaehoon for 4 combined. :D
Wasnt it 6, 1 and 2 respectively?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 03 2010 22:14 meegrean wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:11 synapse wrote:On April 03 2010 22:04 JSH wrote:On April 03 2010 22:02 Kvevil wrote:Game 7 Summary: + Show Spoiler +You see Jaehoon? this is your gameplan for game against Flash. Yeah, right, go dude and send 2 Carriers with couple Interceptors and show your hidden tech to Kespa No.1. Good luck. Congratulations to KT Rolster for fully deserved title. Apart from maybe game 2, this was disappointing final. All games were one-sided. Yeah I think he should not have taken his trump card out so fast... I was like WHY SO EEARLY!!! (I couldn't even spell right at my rage) of course, maybe he thought he couldn't defend Flash's push, except he wasn't attacking! He was trying to take that expansion --;; It doesn't work that way, Jaehoon needed to use his carriers to make sure he didnt DIE right there and then... he had what, ~20 goons vs 15 vultures 12 tanks? This is what I have been saying. How long is Jaehoon gonna wait? He can't afford to risk losing any probes or nexus if the push gets too close.
Pull the Probes. Unless Flash wants all his Tanks dead then lose to a counter attack, he'd pull his tanks once Carriers hit his army.
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Flash at 2427 Elo with an >71% win rate. Almost over 70% in all three matchups (69.29% in TvP)
Can we call him bonjwa yet?
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On April 03 2010 22:13 Megalisk wrote:He has been but everyone here is too hesitant to call him that for some reason.
It's because Jaedong exists and all the Jaedong fans will throw a riot if we call Flash bonjwa when he only has 2 OSL titles versus Jaedong's 3, as well as Jaedong's MSL victory over Flash in the last MSL.
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On April 03 2010 22:14 538 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
2427 from 2418. 9 points. I was exactly right on Sea for 5 and Tyson and Jaehoon for 4 combined. :D Wasnt it 6, 1 and 2 respectively?
I don't think Sea is worth six? Flash was like +150 points ahead of him, no matter the relative score. It may be that way but I've never seen an elo system not give out atleast 2 points for a win (mayhaps it's because of the big disparity in SC as opposed to other sports).
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On April 03 2010 22:16 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 22:13 Megalisk wrote:On April 03 2010 22:12 KristianJS wrote:
Flash is bonjwa? :O He has been but everyone here is too hesitant to call him that for some reason. It's because Jaedong exists and all the Jaedong fans will throw a riot if we call Flash bonjwa when he only has 2 OSL titles versus Jaedong's 3, as well as Jaedong's MSL victory over Flash in the last MSL.
We don't need to call Flash a Bonjwa, commentators did it for us :D
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If anything we can surely call Flash a Proleague bonjwa he was never in a slump there.
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