EPT[OSL] Ro16 Day 2 - Page 20
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On April 03 2010 00:24 motbob wrote: See? This is why I don't like making predictions  Haha same here... I bet against Hwasin for last night's matches too... and he 2-0ed. Lesson learned: never bet against Hwasin when making it to the Ro16 is concerned... | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On April 03 2010 01:59 Mortality wrote: Uhm, why is Kal being considered a PvZ specialist when statistically it's by far his worst match? Because compared with other P's his PvZ is pretty good, or at least used to be. I think it's mostly that in the MSL finals against Jaedong a while back he actually put up a good fight. | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On April 02 2010 17:50 mdb wrote: This is Hwasin`s OSL. Yes, I said it first. You are definitely not the first to say this  | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 03 2010 02:47 Djabanete wrote: Because compared with other P's his PvZ is pretty good, or at least used to be. I think it's mostly that in the MSL finals against Jaedong a while back he actually put up a good fight. Kal is probably the most solid Protoss right now, but I have to agree with Mortality that his PvZ is nothing special, relatively speaking (though he was a great PvZer in the dragon days). Movie, Shuttle and a back in form Jangbi have put up better results recently. His "good fight" against Jaedong was him getting 3-0ed. He lost to Soulkey and Hyuk (granted, Hyuk tricked him with his opening and Kal's scarabs later failed en masse). His PvT on the other hand is pretty sexy, as his drops, multitasking and good battle micro can really overwhelm his Terran opponents. I didn't watch the first two games, but after reading the thread it sounds like his multitasking did the job. This isn't the first time that he's at a disadvantage and comes back with crazy drops (watch his game vs ggaemo during WL). | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On April 03 2010 01:59 Mortality wrote: Uhm, why is Kal being considered a PvZ specialist when statistically it's by far his worst match? Legacies die hard. If you go back just to this time last year, through the end of the first WL his overall record PvZ was 32-18 (64%). Over the same time his PvT was 39-27 (59%) and PvP 28-31 (47%). Over the last year, he's gone 21-25 vs Zerg (46%), 27-10 vs Terran (73%), and 17-5 vs Protoss (77%). His PvZ obviously has slipped down to merely decent, but overall that's an absolutely massive improvement in two matchups at the expense of the other one. Wonder what happened? | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On April 03 2010 04:21 Musoeun wrote: Legacies die hard. If you go back just to this time last year, through the end of the first WL his overall record PvZ was 32-18 (64%). Over the same time his PvT was 39-27 (59%) and PvP 28-31 (47%). Over the last year, he's gone 21-25 vs Zerg (46%), 27-10 vs Terran (73%), and 17-5 vs Protoss (77%). His PvZ obviously has slipped down to merely decent, but overall that's an absolutely massive improvement in two matchups at the expense of the other one. Wonder what happened? Same thing that happens to many progamers. They get too confident in leading matchups and spend a lot of time practicing for weaker MUs. Must feel good to be Hwasin. He finally won a game after getting 0-3d in the last 3 Osls. Also, fuck go.go. Someone squash this insect before it spreads its filthy disease all over this OSL. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
So glad to see cheezerg got raped. That guy denied us of a Stork/Flash rematch. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7863 Posts
ForGG 3-0 Go.Go 2-1 Shine 1-2 Effort 0-3 At this point that's totally believable to me.. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
On April 03 2010 07:39 StorkHwaiting wrote: It's a rare day when I cheer for go.go, but Shine is an auto-veto for me. So glad to see cheezerg got raped. That guy denied us of a Stork/Flash rematch. It's not Shine's fault that Stork can't figure out how to beat pure mutas in a 25 minute game :/ get over it please. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On April 03 2010 07:39 StorkHwaiting wrote: It's a rare day when I cheer for go.go, but Shine is an auto-veto for me. So glad to see cheezerg got raped. That guy denied us of a Stork/Flash rematch. Shine still did what he wanted to do: Get further into the OSL to get to the Finals-not to roll over when a "star" player comes around and let the player beat him. And anyways, it wasn't necessarily Shine's fault either in that Stork would have had to get past Movie too to get to Flash in the first place. Who knows what would happen in that OSL Semifinal? | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
Zero played great, knowing exactly how to counter the tech switch, having lost to it before in a dramatic WL game, but it was also very poor play by fantasy in general. He didn't pressure Zero, he didn't harass at all (didn't even make one dropship), he let his units sit around everywhere collecting dust, he made absolutely no attempt to micro his m&m, and he lost the game to 5-overlords worth of zerg units. He was lazy, ill-prepared, and assumed that his awkward tech switch (denchanic-whatever-thing) would win the game, with the assumption that Zero would spam ultralisks and lings, and be blown apart by mines and siege. Fantasy's so average at TvZ, that instead of improving his management, macro, or micro, he's just pulling out these half-assed builds and crossing his fingers hoping he won't have to put in any real effort to win. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Mo_oN
Germany82 Posts
cant believe this, good thing stork isnt in good shape either. I hope Baby cant pull stuff like he did every day so Movie can advance to ro8. I want to see him play Flash  | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On April 03 2010 16:34 Chen wrote: Go.Go might actually be a really interesting player if he didnt, you know suck. can you imagine the love if Flash or Fantasy pulled off the transition go.go did vs Shine? we'd all be hailing the person as a genius with a great new build/idea, but with go.go... its like shrugged off Go.go is also unbelievably ugly which doesn't win him a lot of points in the eyes of fans either. That and he was known for bm that isn't as funny as FBH (who people give flak to anyway for the same list as go.go) and doesn't play as well, either. In fact, he is like FBH crap. | ||
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grahf
39 Posts
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On April 03 2010 04:21 Musoeun wrote: Legacies die hard. If you go back just to this time last year, through the end of the first WL his overall record PvZ was 32-18 (64%). Over the same time his PvT was 39-27 (59%) and PvP 28-31 (47%). Over the last year, he's gone 21-25 vs Zerg (46%), 27-10 vs Terran (73%), and 17-5 vs Protoss (77%). His PvZ obviously has slipped down to merely decent, but overall that's an absolutely massive improvement in two matchups at the expense of the other one. Wonder what happened? well to be fair he met jaedong from the dates u noted 10 times and lost all 10 for some reason the guy keeps meeting the best zvp ever to be born 16 in total and won 3...... kal's pvz is not deteriorating its just jaedong's zvp is just the only s class that's left in jaedong (when he is not mad - if so than its automatically transforms to j vs ) i think its awesome he improved with his other 2 matches and u can see it clearly as he is the leader in both kespa and elo from the protoss clan . def the most solid protoss out there (consistent) stork has greater potential (but cant maintain consistency lately) but like someone allready said he cant beat flash or jaedong so he need to get lucky | ||
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