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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 23 2010 02:21 GMT
#161
And suddenly this just got a lot more interesting...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
May 23 2010 03:08 GMT
#162
Wtf, Triathlon is the one played twice?

T_T
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 24 2010 07:45 GMT
#163
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
awesomeopossum
Profile Joined February 2010
United States72 Posts
May 25 2010 02:27 GMT
#164
On May 24 2010 16:45 motbob wrote:
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.


You missed one...

+ Show Spoiler +
Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.


Also, I question whether this is the best course of action. It won't be easy to wipe their histories clear, and is it even desirable? They have already turned their success into shame, so erasing some records isn't likely to blacken their reputations any further. In fact, the renown of the players involved is what makes this scandal so abhorrent. Why remove such a key element from the story?
we can plant a house, we can build a tree
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 25 2010 03:09 GMT
#165
I'm not wiping their histories clear. I'm wiping this R&S thread clear. This is an individual action and doesn't reflect a concerted effort on the part of TL.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria493 Posts
May 25 2010 20:31 GMT
#166
On May 25 2010 11:27 awesomeopossum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 16:45 motbob wrote:
I took Kim Carrier's advice to heart.


You missed one...

+ Show Spoiler +
Match D
(T)Hwasin thumbed down Triathlon.


Also, I question whether this is the best course of action. It won't be easy to wipe their histories clear, and is it even desirable? They have already turned their success into shame, so erasing some records isn't likely to blacken their reputations any further. In fact, the renown of the players involved is what makes this scandal so abhorrent. Why remove such a key element from the story?


At first when i saw the history of MSL and saw Chojja > ???? i was WTF who is ???? and how TL staff don't know that. And in the next moment i was - omg am i stupid or what :[
Valks rulzz
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 25 2010 23:23 GMT
#167
thats dumb you should still put em back in. R&S threads are history threads, I learned so much about the history of MSL/OSL through them. you shouldnt ruin it for future readers.
Free Palestine
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 26 2010 00:14 GMT
#168
On May 26 2010 08:23 Ideas wrote:
thats dumb you should still put em back in. R&S threads are history threads, I learned so much about the history of MSL/OSL through them. you shouldnt ruin it for future readers.

+1
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 26 2010 22:38 GMT
#169
On May 25 2010 12:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not wiping their histories clear. I'm wiping this R&S thread clear. This is an individual action and doesn't reflect a concerted effort on the part of TL.


Savior and Luxury won those tournaments. Please don't write your own personal history.
Oai
Profile Joined July 2009
United States40 Posts
May 27 2010 01:11 GMT
#170
I would say, not to erase their names, but like in the after talk thing, they said that erasing their names isn't good enough. They said instead, they should have crosses over their names or something, saying that these guys are fricking match fixing bastards. So it's not that they're forgotten, but they're remembered to be cheaters. Like the Scarlet Letter.
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 02:14:53
May 27 2010 02:14 GMT
#171
Savior won those MSLs, whether you like him or not. If Nada turned out to be a baby-eating Nazi, he would still be a triple MSL/OSL winner.

The match-fixing simply isn't relevant to Savior's and Luxury's MSL wins. Photoshop a fecal smear on your Ma Jae Yoon desktop if it makes you feel better, but don't take a shit on TL.net by re-writing history wherever you can.
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 05:49:09
May 27 2010 05:48 GMT
#172
hope you have a nice catharsis but please put the names up when you are not as mad for future fans....
in The Kong line forever
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
May 27 2010 07:26 GMT
#173
Dunno if I can say so, but I just saw an ad during the MST prelims for the finals. Says the venue is Koryo University? Can anyone confirm?
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
May 27 2010 14:49 GMT
#174
i have an idea write their names in the OP but don't link the TLPD page to their name
that sort of demotes them
Nony is Bonjwa
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 15:42:36
May 27 2010 15:09 GMT
#175
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
May 27 2010 17:20 GMT
#176
On May 27 2010 16:26 Darrun wrote:
Dunno if I can say so, but I just saw an ad during the MST prelims for the finals. Says the venue is Koryo University? Can anyone confirm?



some guy in another thread said the same, so you can pretty much count on it
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
May 27 2010 17:34 GMT
#177
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.

I'm kinda glad you've taken a stand, I think most people should be carrying the names through the dirt as the default, rather the exception.

The 9 are scum, and should be treated as such.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
May 27 2010 18:34 GMT
#178
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.


quit being a 12 year old and put em back. I don't care if you scratch em out now or un-TLPD them or something but you're just being juvenile.

Free Palestine
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-27 19:08:04
May 27 2010 19:07 GMT
#179
On May 28 2010 03:34 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2010 00:09 motbob wrote:
I'm not changing this thread, but I won't completely remove their names in the next R&S thread. I'll cross them out or something.


quit being a 12 year old and put em back. I don't care if you scratch em out now or un-TLPD them or something but you're just being juvenile.


There is not much difference between crossing out a name permanently and eliminating it temporarily. Both are symbolic gestures.

It would be nice if you did not insult me again. Further up this page, you asked me to make progaming history available for future readers. I made that concession by promising to put the names back in in future threads.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
May 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#180
C'mon now, let's not turn this into something like WWE did with Chris Benoit.

Whatever you think about them now, does not change the fact that Savior and Luxury won those seasons and were indeed the best at the time those MSL's were played. Trying to rewrite history is just stupid.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
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