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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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kohkomo
Canada135 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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gorgoino18
Korea (South)109 Posts
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OniX
United States47 Posts
Nice try Roro, maybe next time. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster ![]() He didn't get his natural gas earlier, actually got it at the same time as RorO, so he wasn't able to exceed RorO's muta count. He actually stopped mining gas after the early break, so he was far behind on gas. The fourth hat I think was critical though. | ||
Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:24 Weasel- wrote: Wow RorO didn't even play badly, Jaedong just played that good. One of the most impressive ZvZ performances I've seen. Roro made some really terrible decisions throughout that game. | ||
Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? His third being up longer, and his killing of Roro's drones at the third and nat (I think he killed them at the nat, they weren't there when it the stream was playing again) let him get ahead since he had basically an unharassed economy. At the end it seemed like he caught Roro while his units were split. Not sure, a bit laggy at the end there. edit: I thought Roro also had a third hatchery at his main, but maybe I'm wrong? Then that allowed JD to catch up, and the fourth hatchery (third gas) let him get ahead. | ||
Dandy4
United States493 Posts
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rainei
Canada1316 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? he had a much earlier third hatch. in ZvZ, it's not only resources that matter, Larvae count is also extremely important. A fact I can never grasp while actually playing however. | ||
Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster ![]() Uh what, how does the fourth hatchery help, mutas are limited by gas, not by larva ?_? On March 10 2010 15:23 Chen wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? Roro sucks. that or he had bad saturation. or maybe jaedong just hacks. i dont think he actually had that many more mutas, just better upgrades and control, ie he focused better, Actually, Roro was ahead on upgrades pretty much. If the game had continued a bit more JD would've caught up, but Roro was ahead at that moment. | ||
tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Probably the same people who said he was slumping for losing 3 ZvZs. | ||
Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster ![]() No, Jaedong had less mutas for most of that game. I think he had more at the end because he kept harassing Roro's drones and after a while he couldn't keep up muta production while replacing drones with only 2 hatch. Also while Roro had more he split them up on a couple of occassions letting Jaedong's full muta force snipe a few here and there. | ||
SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:25 Nikon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote: On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote: Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas?? I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster ![]() Uh what, how does the fourth hatchery help, mutas are limited by gas, not by larva ?_? It helped him catch up in muta count since he was mining gas long before his spire finally finished. | ||
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Mystlord
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United States10264 Posts
Then sniping some of Roro's stray Mutas, that just won him the game. So clean and beautiful ;o | ||
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