• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:00
CEST 04:00
KST 11:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Syncronization issues and can't find games [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo)
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group C KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5045 users

[SWL] WeMade FOX vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 29

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 32 Next All
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
March 10 2010 06:23 GMT
#561
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#562
Wow RorO didn't even play badly, Jaedong just played that good. One of the most impressive ZvZ performances I've seen.
kohkomo
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada135 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#563
One of the best ZvZ's I've seen in a long time
Three Proline Tickets, If I lose Then I quit
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#564
****ing JD.
gorgoino18
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)109 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#565
BEST GAME I HAVE EVER SEEN. It definitely is a MUST watch.
지고나서 후회하지말자 - 임요환
OniX
Profile Joined July 2009
United States47 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#566
Impressive comeback by Jaedong. He is the only player I've seen consistently comeback from disadvantages in zvz.
Nice try Roro, maybe next time.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#567
Jaedong owning haha.
TranslatorBaa!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 10 2010 06:24 GMT
#568
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??


I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster .

He didn't get his natural gas earlier, actually got it at the same time as RorO, so he wasn't able to exceed RorO's muta count. He actually stopped mining gas after the early break, so he was far behind on gas. The fourth hat I think was critical though.
Jaedong
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#569
On March 10 2010 15:24 Weasel- wrote:
Wow RorO didn't even play badly, Jaedong just played that good. One of the most impressive ZvZ performances I've seen.

Roro made some really terrible decisions throughout that game.
Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#570
I didn't see the whole game, but did Roro have many drones at his 2nd base? Cause I know JD was stopping his 3rd pretty well close to the end... but he kept trying to run lings into the main before that.
BeSt[WHITE] Have a great retirement | "SKT is best KT." - Vortok | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7190/ep24hitcombo2small.gif
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 06:26:37
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#571
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??

His third being up longer, and his killing of Roro's drones at the third and nat (I think he killed them at the nat, they weren't there when it the stream was playing again) let him get ahead since he had basically an unharassed economy.

At the end it seemed like he caught Roro while his units were split. Not sure, a bit laggy at the end there.

edit: I thought Roro also had a third hatchery at his main, but maybe I'm wrong? Then that allowed JD to catch up, and the fourth hatchery (third gas) let him get ahead.
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#572
he is missed his opportunity to end it. You give JD a inch and you will regret it.
Who let the dogs out?
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#573
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??


he had a much earlier third hatch. in ZvZ, it's not only resources that matter, Larvae count is also extremely important.

A fact I can never grasp while actually playing however.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 06:27:21
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#574
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??


I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster .


Uh what, how does the fourth hatchery help, mutas are limited by gas, not by larva ?_?

On March 10 2010 15:23 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??

Roro sucks. that or he had bad saturation. or maybe jaedong just hacks. i dont think he actually had that many more mutas, just better upgrades and control, ie he focused better,


Actually, Roro was ahead on upgrades pretty much. If the game had continued a bit more JD would've caught up, but Roro was ahead at that moment.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 10 2010 06:25 GMT
#575
Jaedong's back baby!!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 10 2010 06:26 GMT
#576
Lol at the idiots saying JvZ is back b/c of a single game.

Probably the same people who said he was slumping for losing 3 ZvZs.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 10 2010 06:26 GMT
#577
That was sexy as hell.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
March 10 2010 06:27 GMT
#578
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??


I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster .


No, Jaedong had less mutas for most of that game. I think he had more at the end because he kept harassing Roro's drones and after a while he couldn't keep up muta production while replacing drones with only 2 hatch. Also while Roro had more he split them up on a couple of occassions letting Jaedong's full muta force snipe a few here and there.
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
March 10 2010 06:27 GMT
#579
On March 10 2010 15:25 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 15:23 blade55555 wrote:
On March 10 2010 15:22 gunsharp wrote:
Can someone who understands ZvZ explain how Jaedong somehow ended up with 3x the mutas??


I can actually tell you. If you notice Jaedong got a third hatchery by his main so he had 1 more hatch then roro the whole game. He also got his natural gas earlier, and got a third up and running earlier as well. Since he also had again 4 hatcheries to roro's 1 he was able to make more units faster .


Uh what, how does the fourth hatchery help, mutas are limited by gas, not by larva ?_?


It helped him catch up in muta count since he was mining gas long before his spire finally finished.
Splashy the Splashback Awareness Ferret
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 10 2010 06:27 GMT
#580
JD's victory was definitely the result of Drone sniping at Roro's nat and third. Of that I'm pretty certain. JD was able to get such a big gas advantage from that...

Then sniping some of Roro's stray Mutas, that just won him the game.

So clean and beautiful ;o
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Wild Card
CranKy Ducklings126
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 141
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1750
GuemChi 1317
MaD[AoV]29
Britney 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever451
NeuroSwarm174
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift4337
JimRising 640
Counter-Strike
taco 383
minikerr20
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2031
Mew2King137
Other Games
summit1g11996
PiGStarcraft275
WinterStarcraft261
C9.Mang0233
Livibee164
XaKoH 158
Maynarde119
ViBE93
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1992
BasetradeTV35
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 105
• davetesta9
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade314
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
9h
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
20h
Replay Cast
22h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.