EPTOn March 10 2010 15:25 Slow Motion wrote:
Roro made some really terrible decisions throughout that game.
Roro made some really terrible decisions throughout that game.
Go on.
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Mind still trying to comprehend how that was even possible | ||
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:23 Chen wrote: Roro sucks. that or he had bad saturation. or maybe jaedong just hacks. i dont think he actually had that many more mutas, just better upgrades and control, ie he focused better, Roro's complacency + Jaedong's brilliance. Jaedong did what he does best, he made all the right decisions to try and scrape back his massive disadvantage to level ground, starting from the decision to bite his lip and spore up, to a risky hidden expo at 12, which he kept Roro from finding by constant harassment. When Roro hit +2 Jaedong could not have fought at a better place on the map. All in all the entire game is absolute magic, eventually he managed to out-gas his opponent Roro missed several key timings and Jaedong used each of his 'lives' to its full advantage. It's quite preposterous Roro lost, thats one of the most uncanny comebacks I've ever seen. | ||
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iIce
China64 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:27 SplashbackFerret wrote: It helped him catch up in muta count since he was mining gas long before his spire finally finished. Unless he had 1000-2000 gas stockpiled, there's no way the third hatch would've made up for Roro's way earlier spire. You mine gas long before your spire is done in every ZvZ, but the stockpile runs out pretty quickly just because you get larva faster than you get gas. Not to mention that Jaedong already had mutas out at that point. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
Not scouting better with lings, letting jd get 3rd while even though he had more mutas, not having scourge in the first muta battle at jd's 3rd (which he probably could have won with a few scourge and better micro), when he had jd's mutas in retreat and split not attacking 3rd with combined mutas, instead splitting his own mutas edit: not taking anything away from jd's brilliance in that game of course. 99% of zergs would have died to roro anyways in that position | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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Jaw
United States274 Posts
roro splitting up his muta cost him the game. jeadong with his better micro raped roro's splinted force divide and conquer. | ||
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:41 Avidkeystamper wrote: I think that he didn't scout 12 partly do to JD running his lings everything, but you're right in that he should've kept tabs since he had map control. For the scourge thing, I don't see any zerg micro their mutas against scourge when they have giant muta fights for some reason. Patrol microing with 2 or 3 groups at the same time is pretty hard. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
His mutas were also distracted with JD's ling movements too. | ||
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OniX
United States47 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:45 Harem wrote: I don't think he expected JD to take 12 since he also saw JD try to take bott right. Then, JD takes 12 once Roro is distracted with the drone at bott right. His mutas were also distracted with JD's ling movements too. This is a good point. I do think that JD never intended to take that expo though, but used it more as a mind game. Roro should have sensed something and scouted 12 still because that bottom expo would be almost impossible for JD to defend. | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:34 Slow Motion wrote: Not scouting better with lings, letting jd get 3rd while even though he had more mutas, not having scourge in the first muta battle at jd's 3rd (which he probably could have won with a few scourge and better micro), when he had jd's mutas in retreat and split not attacking 3rd with combined mutas, instead splitting his own mutas edit: not taking anything away from jd's brilliance in that game of course. 99% of zergs would have died to roro anyways in that position Well, JD was doing an amazing job distracting Roro with lings while getting his 3rd up. Roro did go for the third when JD retreated and split his mutas (not RIGHT after, but not so long after if I remember correctly, anyways I'll prolly watch that game again), but JD regrouped and got scourges a bit before Roro (he did get some scourges for that battle over JD's third) which gave him the advantage. So Roro didnt do any "terrible" decisions, yes he could have played better, but JD is just too good. JD TOO GOOD | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On March 10 2010 15:45 Harem wrote: I don't think he expected JD to take 12 since he also saw JD try to take bott right. Then, JD takes 12 once Roro is distracted with the drone at bott right. His mutas were also distracted with JD's ling movements too. This. I thought it was absolutely brilliant - twice JD sent a drone to bottom right and let Roro kill it so Roro thought he was successfully denying JD a third base. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
<3 <3 <3 Please never die to heavy ling ZvZ ever again  | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + flash just murdered STX's top line of Shuttle Kal Calm, with an epic game vs Kal. That thread is insane, go check out how many people have adopted the new religion called FLASH. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On March 10 2010 16:30 Wings wrote: lol just came from the KTvsSTX thread, looks like JD did his duty and killed some scrubs here... Shine, Roro, Baby... while in KTvsSTXland... + Show Spoiler + flash just murdered STX's top line of Shuttle Kal Calm, with an epic game vs Kal. That thread is insane, go check out how many people have adopted the new religion called FLASH. Flash can be a religion when he stops losing to jaedong kk | ||
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Withershins
Vatican City State101 Posts
On March 10 2010 16:30 Wings wrote: lol just came from the KTvsSTX thread, looks like JD did his duty and killed some scrubs here... Shine, Roro, Baby... while in KTvsSTXland... + Show Spoiler + flash just murdered STX's top line of Shuttle Kal Calm, with an epic game vs Kal. That thread is insane, go check out how many people have adopted the new religion called FLASH. Rabid Flash fans are the worst. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On March 10 2010 16:43 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Flash can be a religion when he stops losing to jaedong kk God can never lose to Satan. He merely tests our faith. | ||
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