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Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
February 23 2010 14:43 GMT
#881
On February 23 2010 23:34 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 22:47 SubtleArt wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:41 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 21:25 purpose wrote:
M18M did what he could vs the best player in sc atm. I think it was great that Flash lost his AK to a lame gay as protoss.

I mean Flash himself has won his share of games by being lame with his gayfaction and abusing terran maps.


This. You wouldn't see any of these bigoted flash fanboys complaining if it was Flash that had successfully pulled off a 'gay strat'; instead they would be cooing about how Flash has such wonderful variety in his play. I swear Flash fanboys are the most unreasonable kind I've seen around here in a long time.


What gay strats can he really do in TvP? Bunker rush? Thats just a "standard"ish response to 12 nex. The only "cheese" are really creative timing pushes with obscure tank / marine / vulture compositions. Even if theyre cheese they'd have to be well thought out. What makes this gay is that all you do is build a nexus on 12, hope you get lucky the opponent scouts the wrong way, and tech to DTs. Honestly its barely a cheese cause DTs give you map control even if they fail and your eco is skyrocketing from 12 nex


Yea poor Terran, they just dont have any gay strats to pull off vs protoss. Every Terran win is the result of master play and super duper micro and skill.

Jeez.



Terran can throw in good cheese and yet are most cost effective in split maps against Z & P, and in many aspects of game. The way they turtle, knowing in the end they'll at least get a draw and win when opponent decide to throw units away. When the race created for defense abuse defense and got outsmart sometimes fans complain of abuse. LOL.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 15:01:52
February 23 2010 14:55 GMT
#882
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.


An opinion on fanboys about other fanboys, from fanboys, by fanboys.

We're all insufferable, get over yourself.
Remember Violet.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
February 23 2010 14:59 GMT
#883
On February 23 2010 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.


An opinion on fanboys about other fanboys, from fanboys, by fanboys.

We're all insufferable, get over yourself.


The fun thing about terran fanboys is that when the MSL blackout game, they still claim that you can never know if JD would have won since huge combacks happen alot in sc. But when Nony lost connection vs Idra it was 100% correct that Idra won it since he was ahead and most likelly would have won.

For sure if it was the other way around, they would have argued loudly that Idra for sure could have won that game and that they should have rematched etc.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 15:04:24
February 23 2010 15:02 GMT
#884
Not really the same situation and I'm not much of a terran fanboy. Flash is my favorite CURRENT player and pretty much the only terran I'm a big fan of. :o

edit- well that and ForGG but that's more for hilarity than awe inspiring.
Remember Violet.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
February 23 2010 15:14 GMT
#885
Flash LOST five points of ELO for today's games.

Crazy.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
February 23 2010 15:26 GMT
#886
On February 24 2010 00:14 SimonB wrote:
Flash LOST five points of ELO for today's games.

Crazy.

He also set a new TvP ELO record, but dropped 29 points after that.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
TaimalaiX
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada88 Posts
February 23 2010 15:49 GMT
#887
On February 23 2010 23:59 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.


An opinion on fanboys about other fanboys, from fanboys, by fanboys.

We're all insufferable, get over yourself.


The fun thing about terran fanboys is that when the MSL blackout game, they still claim that you can never know if JD would have won since huge combacks happen alot in sc. But when Nony lost connection vs Idra it was 100% correct that Idra won it since he was ahead and most likelly would have won.

For sure if it was the other way around, they would have argued loudly that Idra for sure could have won that game and that they should have rematched etc.


The difference is that Nony agreed to the loss because he said he was out of the game. Flash said he was still in it. Seems logical to go based off what the players themselves think no?
Not a big fan of Nada. There, I said it.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 16:04:36
February 23 2010 16:03 GMT
#888
On February 23 2010 23:05 Baddieko wrote:
Flash's rivals couldn't play to their true level. It always happens when a player is on form and luck is on his side just like jd(2009),bisu(2008) and stork(2007) was in the past. Probs to flash though, he didnt gave up since last year over unlucky period and now it is evening up. He is taking 3rd expo very easily nowadays and getting away unscathed, today showed he can be beaten not only by M18M but fbh and stork can possibly win if not for very horrendous mistakes. Soon everyone will see jd,bisu,stork fight back and get their periods back etc..

Its normal for the kind of invincible aura to happen for S class players, so Flash fans be happy while u can. When his turn to slump, don't complain.


That's weird, I thought Bisu was already in his period.
Anyways, I just wanted to point out that Flash and JD never really had a slump and I wouldn't expect Flash to lose his dominance any time soon.

On February 23 2010 23:59 purpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:55 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.


An opinion on fanboys about other fanboys, from fanboys, by fanboys.

We're all insufferable, get over yourself.


The fun thing about terran fanboys is that when the MSL blackout game, they still claim that you can never know if JD would have won since huge combacks happen alot in sc. But when Nony lost connection vs Idra it was 100% correct that Idra won it since he was ahead and most likelly would have won.

For sure if it was the other way around, they would have argued loudly that Idra for sure could have won that game and that they should have rematched etc.


Rofl you are such an idiot.
First of all not all Terrans are the same, secondly by far not all terrans are Idra fans (honestly how can anybody be dumb enough to think that) and third of all JD vs Flash and Idra vs Nony has absolutely NOTHING to do with each other.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 23 2010 17:14 GMT
#889
On February 23 2010 23:32 okum wrote:
Of course it was a neat game by M18M; all due credit. I don't know about other Flash fans, but when I chime in with the "protoss used the gays" chant, I do it in good fun. That Flash loses to M18M after destroying Khan's top three players is closer to amusing than disappointing.

It is incredibely disappointing in my eyes. I value statistics (winning %, cool streaks, ELO and stuff like that) very highly, and to get Flash's epic all-kill streak and ELO peak ruined by a random P who does an abusive fag build, gets lucky and beats Flash just to roll over and die in the next game because he's actually a terrible player is annoying. As Stylish said it's fucking frustrating because it was so pointless. Khan was gonna lose the match 10 times out of 10 in that situation anyways having already sent out their good players. The only thing they accomplished was ruining shit for Flash.

And yes, SuperArc is by far the worst fanboy on TL.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 23 2010 17:20 GMT
#890
Good job Flash. So close from the all-kill. I need to watch the game against M18M. Seems like a lot of people are raging about it. From the LR seems like there were "reasons" for it

And regarding fanboys: at least Flash fanboys don't claim that if Flash played his best he would have won and he lost only because his play was subpar (cough Jaedong cough).
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
February 23 2010 17:22 GMT
#891
Wow, in just three days Flash completely destroyed the three best players of both SKT and KHAN, including four of the former dragons. Just thinking that two months ago half of TL marked TvP like his Achilles heel... Flash can really work on his weaknesses when needed.

And I can't really blame M18M, he did what every lesser player needs to do if he want some chances to win, resort to cheese and abusive play. He got lucky and it's worked, that's all. Hey, it's not like Flash never cheesed .

But damn, two allkills in one week would be awesome. Hopefully next time Flash!
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 23 2010 17:33 GMT
#892
How can he lose points.
Flash is imba right now. At least we know, Stork can beat JD
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 17:39:34
February 23 2010 17:38 GMT
#893
On February 24 2010 02:20 Lebesgue wrote:
Good job Flash. So close from the all-kill. I need to watch the game against M18M. Seems like a lot of people are raging about it. From the LR seems like there were "reasons" for it

And regarding fanboys: at least Flash fanboys don't claim that if Flash played his best he would have won and he lost only because his play was subpar (cough Jaedong cough).


how unnecessary to start dissing jaedong fans in a discussion that has got nothing to do with him.
Besides, how is that something that isn't true. People often would have won games if they had played there very best, it's not always possible to play to the best of your abilities, doesn't take a genius to see that.

To all the flash fans: I think flash is pretty happy, therefore so should you.
Of course m18m had no chance against the rest of KT and luck was a big factor but so what? you want him to lose on purpose?
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ohforkme
Profile Joined February 2010
Oman18 Posts
February 23 2010 17:43 GMT
#894
--- Nuked ---
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 23 2010 17:53 GMT
#895
hahaha oh flash

so delicious
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 18:04:39
February 23 2010 17:59 GMT
#896
On February 23 2010 23:26 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.

yes, I'm starting to wonder if Jaedong still has the worst fanbase at TL


Don't be ridiculous --- every kind of fanboy is just as annoying as every other kind of fanboy. When Bisu had his resurgence, his fanboys were annoying. When Jaedong was invincible (mid 2008 to mid 2009), his fanboys were annoying. Now Flash is dominating and his fanboys are annoying.

But the people that say disparaging things about "fanboys" in order to seem cool have always been at least as annoying as the "fanboys" themselves, and I don't see that changing soon.

EDIT: Super impressive play by Flash tonight. The loss to M18M stings, but taking a loss for 7 games won against top opponents doesn't seem so bad. Seriously, look at Flash's hit list this WL: Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, Best, Stork, Jangbi, FBH. And KT is what, 6-0?
May the BeSt man win.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 23 2010 18:01 GMT
#897
This series really really did not deliver in terms of hype. Oz vs Khan was so much more epic. This was more of a comedic series.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 23 2010 18:04 GMT
#898
well damn what happened here =/
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 23 2010 18:51 GMT
#899
On February 24 2010 02:38 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 02:20 Lebesgue wrote:
Good job Flash. So close from the all-kill. I need to watch the game against M18M. Seems like a lot of people are raging about it. From the LR seems like there were "reasons" for it

And regarding fanboys: at least Flash fanboys don't claim that if Flash played his best he would have won and he lost only because his play was subpar (cough Jaedong cough).


how unnecessary to start dissing jaedong fans in a discussion that has got nothing to do with him.
Besides, how is that something that isn't true. People often would have won games if they had played there very best, it's not always possible to play to the best of your abilities, doesn't take a genius to see that.

To all the flash fans: I think flash is pretty happy, therefore so should you.
Of course m18m had no chance against the rest of KT and luck was a big factor but so what? you want him to lose on purpose?


Oh come on. People tend to claim here and in other threads that Flash fans are the worst. I just disagree. That's all. And I gave an example being half serious.

And I don't even want to start discussion regarding legitimacy of those claims... You can check those comments in multiple threads at TL and judge yourself (I even in the last match against Khan there is a good example).

7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 23 2010 19:05 GMT
#900
On February 24 2010 03:51 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 02:38 7mk wrote:
On February 24 2010 02:20 Lebesgue wrote:
Good job Flash. So close from the all-kill. I need to watch the game against M18M. Seems like a lot of people are raging about it. From the LR seems like there were "reasons" for it

And regarding fanboys: at least Flash fanboys don't claim that if Flash played his best he would have won and he lost only because his play was subpar (cough Jaedong cough).


how unnecessary to start dissing jaedong fans in a discussion that has got nothing to do with him.
Besides, how is that something that isn't true. People often would have won games if they had played there very best, it's not always possible to play to the best of your abilities, doesn't take a genius to see that.

To all the flash fans: I think flash is pretty happy, therefore so should you.
Of course m18m had no chance against the rest of KT and luck was a big factor but so what? you want him to lose on purpose?


Oh come on. People tend to claim here and in other threads that Flash fans are the worst. I just disagree. That's all. And I gave an example being half serious.

And I don't even want to start discussion regarding legitimacy of those claims... You can check those comments in multiple threads at TL and judge yourself (I even in the last match against Khan there is a good example).



This smart man really said it all:

On February 24 2010 02:59 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 23:26 disciple wrote:
On February 23 2010 23:21 tomatriedes wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Every kind of fanboy is as ridiculous as every other fanboy and you'd be unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It just seems more pungent for Flash fans now because, go figure, Flash is doing great. Jaedong and Bisu fans have been every bit as bad in the past.

Stork fans haven't though. Stork gets the best fans.


Nope, in terms of sheer aggression and disrespect for the opponents the Flash fanboys are on a level apart at the moment. Of course, you can't see it because you're one of them.

yes, I'm starting to wonder if Jaedong still has the worst fanbase at TL


Don't be ridiculous --- every kind of fanboy is just as annoying as every other kind of fanboy. When Bisu had his resurgence, his fanboys were annoying. When Jaedong was invincible (mid 2008 to mid 2009), his fanboys were annoying. Now Flash is dominating and his fanboys are annoying.

But the people that say disparaging things about "fanboys" in order to seem cool have always been at least as annoying as the "fanboys" themselves, and I don't see that changing soon.

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