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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:30 Kennigit wrote: Hi, welcome to the foreign community. I have a feeling your stay will be pretty short. You don't know what you are talking about  .hahahaha, I love this. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
I could just feel Nony's determination in the Outsider game where he kept knocking on that wall even tho it seemed pointless, like he tried to bend reality into his own version of it. And succeeded at it. In Idra's defense, there's not much you can do against stuff like proxy gates if you don't see it coming. If Draco could kill Midas with it(much bigger skill difference imo), Nony killing Idra shouldn't be that big of a deal. Like it or not, PvT is slightly imbalanced in a sense that it allows protoss players to choose these 'magic cards' that give you at least a certain chance percentage of winning, almost regardless of your skill. Idra's biggest mistake was choosing Terran as his race. But Nony is still a hero coz Idra is a beast. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
IdrA's CC cancel was pretty much his power outage, I bet it set him off on tilt, so he tried greedy strategies instead of the more standard siege expand. Not only did Nony get a free game too, but he just brilliantly exploited the little advantage of making IdrA angry. So to the winners today, I guess congrats on lpaying protoss? ;D | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:44 Zona wrote: Oh hey - we never saw anything templar or above in the tech tree in Idra vs Nony. Nor did we see vessels or goliaths. We never even saw a weapon (damage) upgrade We saw DTs. Still, this series was an incredible disappointment, no recommended games IMO. | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
It's like BW heaven. | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:44 PiePie wrote: Lay off of him, he already rounded out his argument and said that he made a wrong assumption. No need to attack DrH anymore seriously... Im sorry that must have happened while I was typing this post ^^ Anyway, the points made remain valid for anyone having trouble to realize that there is a whole lot more to being "good" at SC than one might think at first glance. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:49 Thegilaboy wrote: Just curious, since the OP isn't updated, what were the results for today? I didn't get a chance to watch... 3-2 JF, 3-2 Nony. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:49 Thegilaboy wrote: Just curious, since the OP isn't updated, what were the results for today? I didn't get a chance to watch... JF<Ra JF<Ra JF>Ra JF>Ra JF>Ra Idra>Nony Idra<Nony Idra<Nony Idra>Nony Idra<Nony | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:49 Thegilaboy wrote: Just curious, since the OP isn't updated, what were the results for today? I didn't get a chance to watch... NonY won 3-2. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
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loupouk
France105 Posts
And yes I'm angry because I lost 50$ on this series. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
As an analogy, you can have a golfer that has a near perfect swing mechanically, and sometimes even has better allaround stats that another player, yet the mechanically, even "statistically" superior player doesn't get the results out of his game. It may because he stuggles to perform a bit under pressure, it may be because he overthinks certain situations, or it may be some intrinsic factor that is difficult to pin down. Regardless, if this player never wins and another player with a worse swing or worse stats is able to win on a more regular basus becasue they have a knack for winning, that player will always be considered better. Think about it, if one player had near flawless mechanics but another player was consistently able to anticpate, trick, or outhink the other player on a regular basis and win, how could you not say he is the better player. He is winning more games. Maybe player A will slaughter player B if the game goes into mid or lategame, but if player B can use his mind, tricks, cheeses, whatever to consistently win more games, he is the better player. Ultimately it comes down to whether or not your winning games. In this series Nony was the better player, he anticipated what IdrA was probably going to do and picked and excecuted builds that were designed to abuse that, and in one game IdrA even played right into Nony's hands by going rax CC, he took a risk and it backfired. While I still feel IdrA is the best player in the foriegn scene if I saw Nony start beating IdrA like this on a regular basis I would have to concede that Nony is the better player. I just don't feel its correct to say one player is better than another because he is mechanically superior, if that player doesn't have the other abilties needed to handle a situation that deviates from a straight up macro game, then honestly he isn't neccesarily a phenomal player. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:53 loupouk wrote: I just want to complain about idra's lack of professionalism. Quitting game 3 without even trying some kind of all in after that CC mistake was very childish, you can do that in practice game but not in a tournament like that. I don't see any progamer quitting like that, they are always trying their best, even in desperate situation. If idra can't control his nerve he'll never be a champion. And yes I'm angry because I lost 50$ on this series. Childish? He had no chance to defend against a simple 2 gate goon attack from Nony. And I havent seen any progamer cancel a cc yet so thats why they dont quit. :p | ||
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Sadness
Brazil552 Posts
after a 3-0 rapefest at ro16 we get a game 5 in every quarterfinals match | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:53 loupouk wrote: I just want to complain about idra's lack of professionalism. Quitting game 3 without even trying some kind of all in after that CC mistake was very childish, you can do that in practice game but not in a tournament like that. I don't see any progamer quitting like that, they are always trying their best, even in desperate situation. If idra can't control his nerve he'll never be a champion. And yes I'm angry because I lost 50$ on this series. As much of a ragequit as that looked, he really had no real choices. He was FAR behind in unit count and tech (I don't even think the factory finished, while Nony had goons on the way). There was no way he could have resisted a simple 2 gate goon | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:58 minus_human wrote: As much of a ragequit as that looked, he really had no real choices. He was FAR behind in unit count and tech (I don't even think the factory finished, while Nony had goons on the way). There was no way he could have resisted a simple 2 gate goon Something glaucus or whatever (lol) didn't understand. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On a sadder note, this can't be good for Idra in the eyes of the CJ coaches. | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:53 loupouk wrote: I just want to complain about idra's lack of professionalism. Quitting game 3 without even trying some kind of all in after that CC mistake was very childish, you can do that in practice game but not in a tournament like that. I don't see any progamer quitting like that, they are always trying their best, even in desperate situation. If idra can't control his nerve he'll never be a champion. And yes I'm angry because I lost 50$ on this series. As Nony said, the CC functioned as a depot, he would not even have been able to build units, why waste energy instead of trying his hardest to win the rest of the games. He gged every game and like usual you people always find a way to bitch about how hes not professional or something of the sort. Maybe hes just a guy who has fun being the best he can be at sc and likes injecting humor into the game. | ||
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loupouk
France105 Posts
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