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Braavos36373 Posts
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Cant wait for Germany vs Russia
Best Matchup of Ro16
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Go ret! Go Mondragon! I do look forward to seeing BRAT_OK play too, though.
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Gogo ret... show us your newfound zvz!!
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Canada780 Posts
Both match-ups are looking really good and should proved some great games today. Good luck to Ret and Mondragon
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I am praying mondragon makes it. I know ret will.
Good luck europeans!
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Western hemisphere fighting!
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Oh man, Brat vs Mondragon has me so excited!
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I want to see BRAT_OK walk all over that slimy alien bastard
terra power
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I am pumped for this serieses. Altough I think ret coulda 3-0 CastrO (very tough Prediction I know, but ret is able to do it, doesnt matter if its zvz) this should be pretty good.
I am a bit sad that TL do not make predictions in the OP, would be pretty cool.
gogogo TSL, fuck yeah :D
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On February 08 2010 02:26 Kwidowmaker wrote: I want to see BRAT_OK walk all over that slimy alien bastard
terra power
wtf show some respect to mondi
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Castro 3-2 ret Mondragon 3-2 brat_ok
5th set FTW!!!!
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lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllretje!
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Castro better get 3-0'd can't stand that guy go ret!
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Jos de Kroon, 87900 entries by google. GO 3-0 and make it 100000!
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this may be the most likely prediction i have ever seen
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Hot_Bid going for the safe predictions today, I see.
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I really like Castro, but I also like Ret.... Arghh! gl to both ~_~!
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 ret will crush  CaStrO so hard, it wont be pretty!
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United States12607 Posts
go ret / Brat!!
hoping for some great games, especially in the TvZ
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Dominican Republic13 Posts
GO RET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as Xeris i like Castro to!!! -_- but ill say RET!! i want hem to win so he can stay more time in corea and make it as a progamer!!
RET AND MONDRAGON!!!! FIGhTING!!!!!!!!! Zergs epidemic!
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I bet CaStrO will pause at least twice during those series :D:D
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Is anyone going to stream the stream of this match? Like yesterday? The original-default stream doesn't work for me, and I can only get audio. Hopefully someone can post a secondary stream of the original
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On February 08 2010 03:22 Xnoss wrote: GO RET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as Xeris i like Castro to!!! -_- but ill say RET!! i want hem to win so he can stay more time in corea and make it as a progamer!!
RET AND MONDRAGON!!!! FIGhTING!!!!!!!!! Zergs epidemic!
Ret's alrdy out of Korea, as stated by Artosis. He'll prolly be super gosu though, improved a lot during his time in Korea, much like Idra and Nony.
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is awesome32269 Posts
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Ret G! And Brat OK for more diversity in the finals.
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retretretretretretretretretretretretretretretretretret
gooooooooooo ret
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On February 08 2010 03:27 Sosha wrote:Is anyone going to stream the stream of this match? Like yesterday? The original-default stream doesn't work for me, and I can only get audio. Hopefully someone can post a secondary stream of the original  You tried it yesterday and had no video? That shouldn't happen any more. =/
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Damn, Hot_Bid, really going out on a limb with those predictions.
Jos de Kroon hwaiting! No opinion on the second match, may the best player win.
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RET VS CASTRO!!!! HYPE!!!!
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Brat_OK is definately better as Mondragon (in that match up) but we all know that Mondragon got lots of experience and is good enough to take down anyone.
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GO MONDRAGON!!!!!!!!~!~@!&$#@$*(!#%^!@*$&~!@^*@&*#^*(!@%~*(#%^~#^^& :D
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Yus yus yus!
Last day of the Ro16. Should be some great matches. Been looking forward to this for a while!
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Ret and Mondragon Fighting!
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Ret and Mondragon gonna take this
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Ret and mondi for the win
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BEGINS IN 0:00:00 GOGOGOGGO RET!
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No delay?In what universe did i wake up today
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REEET!
I'm really excited for this! :D
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Ret will hulksmash Castro, Ret fighting
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France2061 Posts
That evil glare is doing wonders for brat_ok in the cheerfuls.
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ZERG DOMINATING THE UNIVERSE!
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All glory to the retnotoad!
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God I'm still in awe of that smoke Brat OK
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It's like a movie! Says playing @ 3:45, you show up @ 3:30, wait 'till 3:45, then still 20 mins of preview/wait before it starts!
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Canada5565 Posts
I'm really liking this slide show instead of a second countdown
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I'm hoping for 10 close games today with Ret and Brat advancing.
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i don't care who wins.
i like all of them.
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Totally diggin this music. It's like a wayyy better evanescense
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Livereports are appriciated as always.
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Volume is much better this time around, although Day9 is a bit quiet
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Day 9 has his volume a little low compared to Artosis. Can someone please have Artosis lower his or Day 9 raise his?
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day9's voice is really soft, he needs to turn up his volume to match chill's
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On February 08 2010 04:12 Jazriel wrote: Day 9 has his volume a little low compared to Artosis. Can someone please have Artosis lower his or Day 9 raise his?
Yes please fix!
ps thats chill you mean
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Yup, Day9 needs a volume boost.
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wow... they gave Castro two eyes...
I'm going to hell I know
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um ... Castro got 1st in WCG Peru 2008 , not 2009
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Hey does anyone know who the band is that does all this music in the background.
BTW, Hi TL!
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United States12607 Posts
Is Day sitting across the room from his mic???
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Castro isnt the only player who made it from the bottom. Kolll did too...
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United States4991 Posts
Kolll got a WO in round 1; he didn't play it. It wasn't his fault, but from the point of actually playing through all the rounds, he essentially came from Q2 not Q1.
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They are not mentioning him because he got a walkover.
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On February 08 2010 04:15 Bc.GiR wrote: Hey does anyone know who the band is that does all this music in the background.
BTW, Hi TL!
Its a Teamliquid band ! ... Check the TSL Forum yO!
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is awesome32269 Posts
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Im sorry Ret.. but I want Castro to win!.
Go Castro Peru fighting!!
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Chill has very good sound on his mic. Day's voice is kind of hard to hear in comparison
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I am confident in ret's zvz after all these courage games, as long as he doesn't get totally screwed by BO he should be ok.
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On February 08 2010 04:18 Itachii wrote: I am confident in ret's zvz after all these courage games, as long as he doesn't get totally screwed by BO he should be ok.
that is a big part of ZvZ
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buffer buffer buffer buffer ARGHHHHHHHHH
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United States12607 Posts
wowowow Chill predicts Castro to win
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On February 08 2010 04:21 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 04:18 Itachii wrote: I am confident in ret's zvz after all these courage games, as long as he doesn't get totally screwed by BO he should be ok. that is a big part of ZvZ  Yes but it should even out over the five match series. So i'm with Itachii here.
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Lol. Day 9 always brings the funny.
Ret scouting the right direction, castro not. Wooo!
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Nothing wakes you up at 6:24 AM like starcraft, ret and day[9].
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ret going for a 12 hatch for ret, and 12 pool from Castro
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Build order as well as scouting advantage for ret.
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Castro has his lings out a bit earlier, but ret will be able to easily defend I think
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I dont like how ret went lair before speed... =/
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One ling from Castro slips through to mess up some drones
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Castro with a sunken colony... which is a bit early
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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Castro breaks through with lings!!!
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United States12607 Posts
CASTRO BREAKS THROUGH
little micro mistake costs ret heavily
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rets mutas get out, so those lings will be chased off
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France2061 Posts
ret's lings had been softened up beforehand at Castro's nat.
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OMG Castro takes out ret's natural!!!
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Ret losing too many drones and the nat hat
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ret should have played Terran. Kakashi Zerg will win this game.
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sick sick sick play from Castro, nice comeback from the bo disadvantage with 7 supply down, ret made a huge blunder there.
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ret goes straight for the main of Castro... no aa!
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United States12607 Posts
castro should have put up spores!!!
ret can take this pretty easily now I think, his muta numbers are too great
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United States12607 Posts
ret in danger of ELIMINATION!!!!
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Castro might have this... he's got 3 drones mining
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United States12607 Posts
RET GO BACK AND SAVE YOUR MAIN SHIT
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lol ret still took it, close call.
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Tense game :O extractor victory incoming XD
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this game is fucking intense
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haha wow what a great 1st game
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United States12607 Posts
wowwowowowo great game to start this series
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what an entertaining first game!!
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AHAHA Extractor win for rettt!!! this is awesome!
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What a funky ZvZ, good game
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Hahaha, sickest game ever, oh wow
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Nice game to start things off
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Hahaheahaehaheh <gGGGGGGGGGG
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Lmao RET taking the game with an extractor win :D
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That was so crazy insane...
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THAT WAS SO INTEN$E I CAME
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Holllllllllllly shittttttttttttttttttt
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Holy balls that was so fucking sweet.
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United States12607 Posts
Castro had this game won, he threw away a massive advantage by not producing even one spore to defend his main or nat
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Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
Greatest game of the TSL2 thus far, lol.
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This was better than every other TSL game combined HOLY SHIT
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What a game! What a game!
Edge of my seat the entire time. What an awesome game!
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holy shit what an awesome game one
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That was amazing, holy shit!!! Go Ret!
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Oh, my, god. THAT WAS SO GREAT! God, I love TSL.
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lmao epic game there i REALLY thought it was over when those lings got in
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Haha, I was gonna skip watching Ret vs Castro because ZvZ is dumb, but that was great! XD
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Canada780 Posts
That was the sickest ZvZ game ever lol.
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wow that was so close for both players
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omfg
holy shit. omg that was the best thing ever. such a great start to this series.
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one spore could have saved castro lol
Can someone explain me why zerg players with 12hatch vs 12pool advantage just dont go mass lings? Its almost the 2nd time ret lost with this BO advantage...
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In the words of Artosis. "Wowowowowowowow!"
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Craaazy game. Entertaining indeed.
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On February 08 2010 04:34 JWD wrote: Castro had this game won, he threw away a massive advantage by not producing even one spore to defend his main or nat yeah thats obvious still brillant decision by ret to counter with mutas so fast
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More awesome than my 1 hatch muta vs. toss into instant gg yesterday.
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OH MY GOD, i wanted to ignore watching Ret vs Castro b/c it's ZvZ. I don't regret watching this
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Chill and Day[9] are the best casters ever!
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Castro should mass lings and defend with spores
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LOL ret won with extractor left ONLY LOLOLOLOL
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Ret really didn't deserve that.
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Simply amazing, this series is going to be so sick.
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United States10774 Posts
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that was a great game, and that's saying a lot considering we're talking about zvz.
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shoulda built a spore right after he broke nat
awesome game
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
castro shoot down the main of ret
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The ol' 0 Hatch, extractor build for zvz!!
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Baa?21242 Posts
I feel so bad for Castro =(
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Wowzer, such an exciting ZvZ. Haven't seen desperation-mode games like that in a while.
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USA29055 Posts
awesome first game.
GO RET!
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That's what the TSL needs, a total desperation game! Finally! Amazing...holy shit I love it....and a ZvZ!!!!
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wow, 1 spore colony = win
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
now the next game on destination!
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On February 08 2010 04:35 Bc.GiR wrote: The ol' 0 Hatch, extractor build for zvz!! lol
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On February 08 2010 04:36 Quinan wrote: Sweet game! welcome to TL! ^_^
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
Ret have the lead 1-0 but i think The Peruvian Gosu will come back
Fixed
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How could you feel bad for Castro? He took drones off gas for an all-in ling attack. As a Zerg player, I hate that kind of stuff. Good job ret for (barely) defending it.
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United States4991 Posts
On February 08 2010 04:37 Re-Play- wrote: Castro have the lead 1-0 but i think The Netherland Gosu will come back
? Ret won the first game..
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On February 08 2010 04:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I feel so bad for Castro =( Yeah, throwing games away has to feel just horrendous.
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On February 08 2010 04:35 MartT wrote: Ret really didn't deserve that.
That's debatable... ret played better
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On February 08 2010 04:37 Re-Play- wrote: Castro have the lead 1-0 but i think The Netherland Gosu will come back
nope mang, ret's up 1-0
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On February 08 2010 04:37 Re-Play- wrote: Castro have the lead 1-0 but i think The Netherland Gosu will come back
Ret won dude.
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On February 08 2010 04:37 Re-Play- wrote: Castro have the lead 1-0 but i think The Netherland Gosu will come back
??
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On February 08 2010 04:37 Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 04:37 Re-Play- wrote: Castro have the lead 1-0 but i think The Netherland Gosu will come back
? Ret won the first game..
BIGGER OVERLAY, SO HE CAN UNDERSTAND!!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
12hatch? vs 9pool? i think 12hatch is much more better
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okay guys he knows now, stop quoting him haha
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that game was fucking crazy!!
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I'm tempted to say that the map analysis Day and Chill do before each game is longer than the actual game.
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Chill's arms are getting nerd artosises all over them?
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Aha lil-ret.. the thug dutchman
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I hope this isn't one of those series that have a super awesome first game and the next games aren't quite as good. It definitely was an exciting start to the night, let's see more of this!
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Ret the thugish dutchman fighting!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
ret at 5, castro at 11, lords moving to scout each other
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ret again 12 hatching, vs Castro 12 pool
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ret taking the BO advantage again
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Ret 12 hatched a lot in Courage too
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On February 08 2010 04:40 meeple wrote: ret again 12 hatching, vs Castro 12 pool
i think 12haching is better econ oriented
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On February 08 2010 04:40 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 04:40 meeple wrote: ret again 12 hatching, vs Castro 12 pool i think 12haching is better econ oriented
Obviously..but it is much riskier..
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
well castro will know it soon
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Nice Castro gets the drone...
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
its laggy the stream or it just my internet?
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i remember how Ret trashtalked some Zergs he faced because they gone 12 hatch with "12 hatch takes skil..."
but don't worry i still <3 you, you dutch beast
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On February 08 2010 04:43 Re-Play- wrote: its laggy the stream or it just my internet?
no lag here.
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Castro had better arcs but ret still had much more lings...
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Nice zerg control by castro
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2 lings from Castro gets into the main!!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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kills couple of drones ret is in trouble
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ret loses 4 drones to 2 lings..
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Castro's zerglings are Devouring Ones.
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United States12607 Posts
CastrO burning ret with ling micro again here!
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Castro's zergling micro is fucking godlike,its unbelievable, its really reall ygood
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On February 08 2010 04:44 Jyvblamo wrote: Castro's zerglings are Devouring Ones.
lololol
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
ret got out the bridges!~!
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United States12607 Posts
so maybe CastrO will make a spore this time???
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Ret going for another extractor win!!
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lol ret trying to repeat game 1... but its gonna be the death of him
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ret went Lair before speed again...
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
castro defended pretty well those ret`s zerling
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lol ret's extractor goes down first
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United States12607 Posts
MAN are these players even
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wow castro is really good at zvz
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1-1!! )
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In South America they're born cracklings
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ret has good muta micro..but needs better zergling micro..
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United States12607 Posts
LOL I love Chill's commentating
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United States4991 Posts
Castro has pretty SICK zergling micro, wow.
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Lost with the build order advantage T_T... I really think he should have played Terran !
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France2061 Posts
12 hatch did not go unpunished this time. Castro has excellent ling micro. We haven't actually seen their respective muta micros yet.
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shit why castro still no spore
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On February 08 2010 04:46 JWD wrote: MAN are these players even
ret had BO advantage in both games and barely went 1-1, castro has superior ling micro
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Baa?21242 Posts
Awesome Zergling micro ^^
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What are casto's lings made of?
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GG, Shame castro didn't do that in the first game. He learnt from the first game, seemed Ret didn't
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Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
I hope CaStro wins this. Two good games so far
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castro recruits rambozerglings!
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omg castro and ret make ZvZ fucking awesome to watch :D
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
1-1
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Castro's zvz lings are fucking mad, seriously how does he do it, it doesnt make sense, they ARE SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOD
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Castro's ling micro is really good. He made a couple of mistakes with multitasking with the lings, but any lings that he was controlling were god-like.
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So nice to hear some high level English commentary on ZvZ.
Go ret! You can do it!
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Castro has an unbelievable grasp of zergling vs zergling.
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At first I was like -.- meh ZvZ and its ret
Now Im like >D
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Ret now needs to practice zergling micro map!
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If castro has 10 zerlings and ret also has 10, Castro has more zerlings.
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castro just do all ling battles ret cant handle it!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On February 08 2010 04:47 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: omg castro and ret make ZvZ fucking awesome to watch :D
+ day9
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What a great series until now.
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Castro would be unstoppable at Zergling Blood
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Ret kinda sloppy with lings both games for some reason.
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On February 08 2010 04:50 Malinor wrote: What a great series until now. Yeah and I hope it continues that way.
e: retlings :D - great commentary today!
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Ret has scout hacks tonight.
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Castro looking better for now.
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On February 08 2010 04:51 Alethios wrote: Ret has scout hacks tonight.
You can actually smell the creep of your opponent. Stuff you learn in a proteam.
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On February 08 2010 04:48 thopol wrote: Castro's ling micro is really good. He made a couple of mistakes with multitasking with the lings, but any lings that he was controlling were god-like.
If you mean the two lings that were at Ret's third, they moved all of Ret's zerglings out of position so Castro could cross the bridge easier afterwards, so they weren't entirely wasted.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
game 3 begins xD, i hope ret make some agresive build this time
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Castro did all-in Chill T_T
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Identical builds so far... this is where the stronger player will shine
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
lord of ret is going to right dirrection, he will spot Castro Party
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lol the Peruvian arc... so deadly
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Beautiful from ret, spotting the backstab
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
finally 9pool from ret ^^
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On February 08 2010 04:56 Re-Play- wrote: finally 9pool from ret ^^
it was 12pool expand...
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Castro is being sneaky with lings all over the map
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Lol castro sneaks ANOTHER ling into ret's main again
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United States12607 Posts
ret's scourge pretty devastating there
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Jesus... 40 supply to 26 for ret, he's dominating this game
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
ret will take this one yo, mutalish micro insane!!!
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ret wins muta battle at castro's nat, 3 muta left but driven off by scourge
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castro moving out with his lings!
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wow ret kills maybe 4/5 drones in castor's main with his mutas
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+1 armor wont help him if ret has 2 times more mutas
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Castro has nothing left, gg woooot
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castro gg's he shouldn't have thrown away those lings
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This time ret won on equal builds..GG
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Nice play from ret, great commentary from day and chill!
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If Castro had just had an extra half mutalisk the game would have been totally different!
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Shows that Castro needs to use lings to win, his muta micro isn't up to par with ret's.
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United States12607 Posts
ret played much better this game, playing safe to ensure he could get to a muta battle
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nice clean win. well done :D
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but then again the lings weren't the decisive part of the game.
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Ret hasn't shown anything impressive yet, maybe because it's zvz but that muta micro is not that nice.
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finally ret went speed before lair. Definitely saved him from the lings of castro.
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On February 08 2010 05:02 Megalisk wrote: This time ret won on equal builds..GG
yes, impressive.
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Nice one ret!
Thats the way to do it!
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Ret's ling micro is worrisome. I don't know how Castro's lone ling made it in through like 40 lings in front of the ramp. That shouldn't have happened. Ret's superior mechanics overall though, that's what is carrying this. Nice game.
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GIVE DAY9 HIS ESPORTS MAHNEEY
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nice play by bouth players :D
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ret is playing preety good zvz but his scourge control is lacking he uses like 6 scourge for 1 muta :o
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Very nice from ret, but I wanna see some of that muta micro that he was talking about and showing off in his muta tutorial
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ret was 10 supply ahead when he left his base, perefect timing right after castro started his upgrade
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United States4991 Posts
Wheee, this is a really exciting ZvZ! I'm wiggling like jello!
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On February 08 2010 05:03 lune wrote: Ret hasn't shown anything impressive yet, maybe because it's zvz but that muta micro is not that nice.
Try to micro mutas against someone from Peru :[
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Ret should have sick amounts of training of zvz on neo tornado lately. 3-1 incoming.
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Let's go RET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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United States11390 Posts
im so glad that it's day and chill casting this and not artosis/tasteless
sooooo goooooood
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Very nice timing by Ret. He attacked while the upgrade was still going, so Castro ended up with too few Mutalisks for the upgrade to pay off.
Overall, in spite of a few slight blunders, Ret was stronger in Game 3. We shall see if he can use that momentum in Game 4.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
1+ carapase wont do anydiferences bc ret have to many units
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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gogo ret and his retlings and retalisks!
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chill/day9 > artosis/tasteless for this weekend at least
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France2061 Posts
On February 08 2010 05:02 HazMat wrote: Shows that Castro needs to use lings to win, his muta micro isn't up to par with ret's.
I don't think this was about superior muta micro. Ret built up a small econ advantage and attacked at just the right time.
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ret's decision to build the 2nd gas way faster than castro and castro building an useless sunken decided the game
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Castro going for a 9 pool... ooo
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United States12607 Posts
WOW down 2-1 CastrO decides to put it on the line with a 9pool, you've got to admire the balls
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6 lings out and heading the right way, and another 2 more
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ret has 6 lings though one of castro's ling dead
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ret picks off a stray ling!!
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United States12607 Posts
ret is going to need perfect micro to hold his nat here
TENSE
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Nice defense from ret there.
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United States12607 Posts
wowowow, great job by ret
should be able to coast to victory now
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spire going up for castro, ret lair about done
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Castro's gambit totally failed... ret finishing his lair, but the spire from Castro is already started
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ret knows what hes doing chill
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Wow Ret's ZvZ has gotten really good O.o!
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Ret? What're you doing? Get dem lings into that base.
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evo goes down for ret, still spawning lings - is he going to do a ling attack before mutas are out?
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United States12607 Posts
ret playing super safe, just droning up and going for spores. I like this play a lot, forces CastrO to work harder with his mutas.
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yay finally ret will show why he is the superior player!
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Uhhh wth, suddenly buffer 20sec every 5sec
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On February 08 2010 05:10 Alethios wrote: Ret? What're you doing? Get dem lings into that base. I need to trust in Ret.
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3 mutas out for castro - going to get some free ling shots 1 spore up at ret's nat, and 2 more creep colonies
4 mutas out - killing an OL
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ret supply blocked - and another OL dead
castro needs to choose - expo or fight
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castero taking his nat - he's built up 5/6 mutalisks
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Ret got over twice the minerals of Castro in the last minute (and only a little less gas).
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ret moving out with a ton of lings while castro's mutas are away
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United States12607 Posts
Ret's mutas out now..castro's second gas not even up yet!!
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ret's built up a lot of mutalisks, ret getting air carapace
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its over once +1 finishes
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United States12607 Posts
yea Ret's income is twice Castro's!
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castro's going to get overwhelmed soon
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United States12607 Posts
+1 finished, here comes the killing blow!!
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castro has like 600 gas...ret moving in with mutas and a few scourge has 1 air armor - castro doesn't
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France2061 Posts
Final battle, Ret for the win.
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wow very nice... gogo ret!!
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ret's armored mutalisks win - castro gg's
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United States12607 Posts
Very well done by Ret, he showed his superior skills in games 2 and 3
man, how much would Castro like to have that first game back???
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GG from Castro. 3-1 for Ret. Great series.
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wtg Ret, show the doubters
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fancy micro 20 muta vs 2 scourge
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GG! Nice job Ret.
Just have to get through... SEn... now
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RET! Hulksmashing all of Peru's hopes and dreams
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Well played by Ret. It looked like he'd really settled in that game.
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Great series, especially for zvz.
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Wow, comfortable ZvZ victory by Ret.
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That's my favorite ZvZ build. I love that spored up econ situation. Great job Ret! He's headed for the finals now.
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Phew, ret had me worried there for a bit.
I really didnt like his lair before speed in the first two games. Thank god he fixed that in the last two.
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United States12607 Posts
AWESOME, Ret interview!!!
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Dang it seems like the LLL team has no bad players in it what an amazing team!
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would be more exciting if he didnt get bo+scouting advantage every game
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RET's going to be a RAPPER lol
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Vent with ret
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On February 08 2010 05:04 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 05:03 lune wrote: Ret hasn't shown anything impressive yet, maybe because it's zvz but that muta micro is not that nice. Try to micro mutas against someone from Peru :[
I've tried it, and against chinese and koreans too and mine isn't that different from the one he showed.
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Canada780 Posts
Really nice games played by Ret and Castro there. It was a really exciting and great series even though it was ZvZ. GG to Ret and Castro and good luck in the rest of the TSL Ret.
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Mondi vs Brat!
Lol lol. Lil Ret be pimping dem bitches.
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Wow, ZvZ is really exciting with english commentary! GOGOGO RET!
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On February 08 2010 05:17 lune wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 05:04 G.s)NarutO wrote:On February 08 2010 05:03 lune wrote: Ret hasn't shown anything impressive yet, maybe because it's zvz but that muta micro is not that nice. Try to micro mutas against someone from Peru :[ I've tried it, and against chinese and koreans too and mine isn't that different from the one he showed.
Try doing it on Bnet with people from peru and china in the same game T_T
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interview! practice with koll and mondragon 4 ZvZ's in a row in courage, pretty comfortable
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On February 08 2010 05:16 d(O.o)a wrote: Dang it seems like the LLL team has no bad players in it what an amazing team! yea I hear their BW team has yet to lose a match!!
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Really great ZvZ series. Castro's zergling micro was so fun to watch but I think ret had an edge whenever mutas came into play.
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Thank god I hate castro so much glad Ret won :D.
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hmm, almost all the Ro16 wins have been by a player who seems to have out-predicted the other person
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On February 08 2010 05:18 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 05:16 d(O.o)a wrote: Dang it seems like the LLL team has no bad players in it what an amazing team! yea I hear their BW team has yet to lose a match!!
lol
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On February 08 2010 05:19 blueblimp wrote: Really great ZvZ series. Castro's zergling micro was so fun to watch but I think ret had an edge whenever mutas came into play.
he always had 3+ mutas. At this point u can just attack move them and win
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Lets go Brat... Similar-ish flags will claim the day!
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Beautiful wins by ret... very entertaining games
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France2061 Posts
Ret saying he spent a lot of time thinking about and planning for the series, and that indeed translated into better decision-making.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Chill hasn't talked in like 10 minutes T_T
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Thank you so much for livereports guys :D!
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Somewhere a Peruvian is weeping, somewhere day9 has 5 e-sports bucks.
(The wind cries Mary)
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Lol, how many ZvZs can one man run into? Poor ret.
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aw...another ZvZ next round for ret?
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This live interviews mid-cast are amazing.
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Bratok = Brother in Russian right?
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At least Ret will be super at zvz after this, considering the practice he is getting.
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I'm hoping for Brat_OK, I really want to see a him vs ret match
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On February 08 2010 05:25 HazMat wrote: Bratok = Brother in Russian right?
Yes. It's a bit closer to "bro" in meaning tho.
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Brat = Ivan Drago
Gonna crush Mondi
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man, the picture of BRAT_OK looks so sinister - with his facial expression and his fingers on his chin
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Wait wait.
If day[9] already has 5 e-sports dollars. Chill bet five more, then day[9] raised 10... to a total of 15.
So if Brat wins, day[9] should have 20 E-Sports dollars total.
Thats enough to buy Jaedong's luck Ivory Pedant.
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On February 08 2010 05:27 super_toast wrote: Brat = Ivan Drago
Gonna crush Mondi
haha, Mondi "Time to go to school, son! Put your gloves up!"
Brat "You will lose"
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He lost as the huge favorite last time in the first round, I hope Mondragon can pull the upset last time.
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BRAT_OK vs. Mondragon! Two titans clash! Kursk incarnate!
+ Show Spoiler +
This is going to be an awesome series.
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lol commentators talking over each other
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On February 08 2010 05:29 Tom Phoenix wrote:BRAT_OK vs. Mondragon! Two titans clash! Kursk incarnate! + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Z9nlpVCUU This is going to be an awesome series. 
fuck yeah sabaton go mondi
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2 drones sent out - 12hatch BRAT_OK only now sending out an SCV, scouting wrong
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BRAT_OK sending out a second scv scout - I like when players doing that
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oooh, 2 rines moving out - will they kill the OL?
expo CC being placed
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haha Day is a prophet.
"that little sliver of no vision that marines could sneak through" Then immediately Mondi's overlord moves to cover it.
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OL makes it to the ledge, lair going up - scouting SCV finally dies academy, 2nd rax being placed
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8 rines of brat_ok's force the ling back 10 rines now...ebay going up, spire going up
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2 firebats added, mondragon about to talk bottom left marines with 2 bats 2 medics moving a little out
1 sunken 1 creep colony at mondie's nat, cancelled one creep
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keep the LR coming guys, thanks
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bunker up at the nat, factory being built 3 rax idle plentiful amount of turrets sprinkled around
mutas are out!
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mutas take out 3 turrets above brat_ok's nat, mnm force them back
queen's nest!
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mondragon getting a queens nest, for a hive
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3 rine kills, one muta dead in a small amount of harass vessel tech being finished
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Mondi's muta micro is not impressing here.
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how is it strange to get both tanks and vessels what the fuck?
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2 more rine deaths, 2 more muta deaths too - first vessel in construction
hive being built
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Defiler den just started, the timing looks good so far
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defiler mound and greater spire
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Oh god. Greater spire
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Greater spire upgrading, first vessel out
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On February 08 2010 05:38 Jaksiel wrote: Mondi's muta micro is not impressing here.
Mondi was never known for his mutal control, but he never wanted to practice it. But he's still decent with it and uses his mutas really good strategically.
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I hate all this guardian stuff that zergs have been trying.. I haven't seen it be really all that effective
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On February 08 2010 05:39 meeple wrote: I hate all this guardian stuff that zergs have been trying.. I haven't seen it be really all that effective It might work. This isn't Korea, y'know.
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Rofl guardians giving day[9] a nerdgasm
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Guardians morphing at 12... they should be finished at an opportune time
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"game-changing guardians" - hmm they fail so often in pro games, but let's see here
consume is done guardians done too
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Lolol
Mondragon puts hairs on the chest of zerg players around the world.
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brat_ok - great response, saves 2 out of 3 tanks despite swarm/lurker
guardians are being revealed - dropship moving out
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Oof dropship scourged and drop useless
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mondie suicides a bunch of lings brat_ok finally runs his scv's from his nat
dropship scourged after it moves to mondie's main...waited too long
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France2061 Posts
Brat_ok against a 4 base zerg without having harassed at all. Don't know what's his plan.
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brat_ok doing very well at withdrawing his forces when swarm done, guardians FINALLY cleared - but they stopped a lot of mining and killed quite a few scv's and even a depot or two
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defilers are being very consistently irradiated
wow, brat_ok's nat has so few scv's
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Mondi's minerals just keep stacking up. :/
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On February 08 2010 05:39 meeple wrote: I hate all this guardian stuff that zergs have been trying.. I haven't seen it be really all that effective
It's not that they're trying it, they try it in practice they just realized that they have a greater chance of winning when they use guardians
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brat_ok has a supply advantage 134-103 brat_ok amazing control when swarms appear, and have been irradiating defilers right away
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France2061 Posts
Mondragon has nearly 3k minerals...
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brat_ok has reached bottom left with his push - but lurkerling and one defiler close to brat_ok's nat
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wow, lurkers killed a lot of rines from brat_ok's push, brat_ok has to withdraw from bottom left
brat_ok taking 3? I'm not sure
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Brat_OK expanding... but Mondragon is doing so well so far I think... other than he's got tons of mins building up
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Man this is turning out to be just as awesome as i'd hoped!
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wow, rine surround on lurkers at brat_ok's front door, all killed
mondragon has >3k minerals
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Mondi's macro is suffering a bit
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Awesome play by both now.
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lol - bottom right - mondragon making a hatch, but there's also a rax and factory in progress
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Nice juicy plagues lol... and two drop ships moving out
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2 dropships out - game is great so far plague on 4 vessels and a lot of mnm dies, but brat_ok has 10? vessels!!
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wow brat_ok macro is amazing
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On February 08 2010 05:43 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 05:39 meeple wrote: I hate all this guardian stuff that zergs have been trying.. I haven't seen it be really all that effective It's not that they're trying it, they try it in practice they just realized that they have a greater chance of winning when they use guardians If you have mutalisks left from harassing its so very cheap to make a few guardians its almost obvious choice to do it.
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BratOK taking out the nydus at bottom left, and it will be really hard to defend that
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Nvrmind, lurkers clean it up
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2 dropships about to attack bottom left - he focused fire on the canal and lost a lot of rines to defending lings
an attack on brat_ok's nat dark swarm in front of the bunker, scvs run
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Ultras out for Mondragon!
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3 lings killing a lot of scv's at 3
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BratOK taking out bottom right, but losing his expo at mid right
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but brat_ok clears mondie's bottom right wow, so back and forth
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damn mondi has some great game control, keeping on top of things despite bratok's crazy macro
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Mondi pulling ahead in supply.
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Holy shit in like one minute the supply gap went from brat_ok 170 - 120 mondragon to like brat_ok 130 - 140 mondragon
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Cmon man obs missing so much of brats multitask t.t
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brat_ok building vultures now - mines will be good vs ultralisks both players >1k minerals
2 dropships moving out - even with d-matrix, they die as lots of scourge were there
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big plague - on a dozen vessels
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Oh shit such a dirty plaguu
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mondis playing much better than i would have ever expected game 1
T_T
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Ahah the plague hit every vessel... brutal
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United States4991 Posts
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH PLAGUUUUUU
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Hahaha Artosis is awesome
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United States4991 Posts
On February 08 2010 05:50 Matoo- wrote: Hahaha Artosis is awesome Artosis isn't commentating lol, it's Chill and Day.
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mondie has built a queen - and is taking the nat of bottom right mondie also threw in one hydra - it killed one earlier plagued vessel
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Queens out for Mondragon... infested cc?
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epic plague on the vessels
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mondis play is so experienced
i <3 it..
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Mondragon has great knowledge of the game and despite his low APM he's insanely fast (try to find FPVOD's of him, he really uses his 230 apm)... ^_^! And Brat_OK is a really mechanical player, thats why it will be such a good game.
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Rofl at those plagues, omg.
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brat_ok with 4 irradiates on lurkers - mega plague on the entire mnm force and vessels all 11 vessels die and mnm die brat_ok in tough situation
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BratOK's army massacred... this looking grim
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chill and day9 have the best analogies
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omg mondis plagues and swarms are out of this world im impressed man..
sick :D
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Impressive play by Mondragon
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Mondragon's Defiler play is spectacular.
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Wow plagues. Irradiated ultras on plagued marines are beautiful. Mondragon is so good. Edit: Infested cc lol.
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Oh my god. Those plagues were so sick!
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United States4991 Posts
INFESTED COMMAND CENTERRRRR
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swarm on bunkers at 3, that expo's going to go down queen moving there and infests the CC
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France2061 Posts
Infested CC! Mondragon is awesome.
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Thats awesome... Mondragon so dominating this game...
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what a BALLER is mondi..
wtf :D
^^^^^^^^
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Hahaha... Infested Command Center. Oh my...
Really nice defiler play too by Mondragon
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I guess dissy promised someone to use it... Mondragon's defiler play is amazing.
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He could have killed the CC but he's gotta be a baller and infest it. So amazing.
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brat_ok killing the hatch at inner bottom right mondragon clearing mines with lings
ultraling pushing into the nat, without swarm, repelled
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Mondragon now racking up like 4k minerals...
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brat_ok building a cc at bottom right, down to 92 supply mondie mining more than double gas and minerals than brat_ok
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modi winning game 1 in a amazing fashion
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Dirty drone burrow from Mondi
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ultras shut down bottom right small vulture raid at 9, but doesn't do too much damage
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Cute use of burrow again... mondragon should run BratOK over pretty soon
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well mondragon having lots of minerals now is excusable because he's almost maxed
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mondragon taking 4 - ultraling with swarm moving into brat_ok's nat it's almost over
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On February 08 2010 05:47 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 05:43 d(O.o)a wrote:On February 08 2010 05:39 meeple wrote: I hate all this guardian stuff that zergs have been trying.. I haven't seen it be really all that effective It's not that they're trying it, they try it in practice they just realized that they have a greater chance of winning when they use guardians If you have mutalisks left from harassing its so very cheap to make a few guardians its almost obvious choice to do it.
I disagree, lets assume 6 mutas left that's 750 gas for 6 guardians
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Mondragon expanding bottom right... and 3 oclock for BRat is done I think
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Good defense from Brat at his ramp
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another vessel plague, brat_ok going to be very poor in minerals soon
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The difference in supply is insane... about double
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That was an awesome mine.
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oOOHHH Crazy mine... but its not gonna be enough
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brat_ok retaking 3 wow huge mine kills like 14 zerg units but it doesn't matter - an attack coming at 3
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Bottom right falls to Mondragon...
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That was a damn good game. Please let this go to game 5! :D
Why did Bratok wait so long before his first push?
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brat_ok can't fight the well-placed swarms of mondragon without tanks
despite getting his machine shop relatively early, he's stopped building tanks
but then again brat_ok isn't rich enough to do a major tank switch
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GG from Brat. Great first game.
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brat_ok gg's, nice game to watch
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Very good game, great play from Mondi
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gg from BratOK... looking forward to game 2!
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Despite being high in the banks it was art-mondi-play!
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killing 3 dropships paid of so much ..
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I have a feeling this is going to be an epic series
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mondragon's macro wasn't great - but his swarms and his plagues were top-notch
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Canada5565 Posts
BRAT_OK with awesome macro
i saw him at 1 mineral nearing the end of the game lol
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Brat_OK is so good.
He lost that, sure, but he played extremely well. I really think he's going to win this series, but it'll certainly be tough.
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It was a nice game... I'm glad to see Mond so strong here
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not a good game for bratok.
hope he will rise on tornado
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interesting - unlike yesterday, both day and chill have their own cameras
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Those defilers were so so sick.
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United States10774 Posts
On February 08 2010 05:58 thopol wrote: Brat_OK is so good.
He lost that, sure, but he played extremely well. I really think he's going to win this series, but it'll certainly be tough. haha brat ok is good, but how does mondi playing that well (superior to brat ok in that game, obviously) make you think he's going to lose? i just don't really follow your logic heh
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Mondragon at 1 Brat_OK at 4
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France2061 Posts
Great game, though Brat_ok really let Mondragon run away with the econ advantage. Mondragon has poor macro, but his defense, and that lurker/defiler backstab were perfect.
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Mondragon 12 hatching... and dronescouting
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12hatch from mondragon, he only sends one drone this time, dronescouting!
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scv's in mondragon's main
brat_ok expanding
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Brat_OK have to win... Mondi is not unconquerable plr!
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Purely mechanically Bratok seems superior to Mondi.
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first gas going down for mondragon, 2nd rax being placed 6 lings move out towards brat_ok's base, bunker being placed
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bunker makes it up just in time, but 5 lings are in brat_ok's main only loses 1 rine 1 scv and clears it out
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Russian Federation26 Posts
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On February 08 2010 06:02 Holgerius wrote: Purely mechanically Bratok seems superior to Mondi. Terrans have to be mechanically superior to win :p
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Really nice timing from Brat_OK... bunker just in time
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lair evolving - scv still in mondie's main
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United States10774 Posts
On February 08 2010 06:02 Holgerius wrote: Purely mechanically Bratok seems superior to Mondi. from the first game? i disagree if ur going by how low they kept their money...well that's because mondi had 4x resources
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academy going up - scv sees the spire coming up
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oh, ebay is already up too, 3rd rax going up
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factory going down - brat_ok seems be using a very similar build 2 ol's moving towards 11
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Mondragon getting the other main as his third...
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Mutas building now... so everything looks standard
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mondie preparing to take the 10 main, starport being added
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Mondi produces only drones and Brat_OK cannot do anything... It seems tha economy of a zerg will be impoving and improving!
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mutas emerge - flying around
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Brat_OK turreting heavily... these mutas wil be hardpressed to do alot
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here comes the muta harrass - 2 scv kills
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After 2 hours of casting, I like today's casting team a lot better than yesterday's. Great job, guys!
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hmm, I agree with Chill, brat_ok has a lot of turrets spread out, a waste 2 rine kills, 1 muta dead
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lurker aspect almost done evolving ground carapace starting
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Lots of the mutas are melting... but they are kinda doing what they're supposed to
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Lurkes about done... defilers starting to come out
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hive done - I never saw the queen's nest defiler mount up
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Oh yep another greater spire so guardians again
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1st vessel out with 2 tanks - moving out greater spire morphing again... irradiate research starting
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France2061 Posts
"Guardians underrated..." That's quite the understatement.
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Mondi produces defiler so early... Amazing!
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Why is everyone telling whats going on. Arent everybody watching? And those who arent cant possibly keep track with this spam.
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about 2.5 groups mnm, 1 vessel, 3 tanks moving out - lurkers taking tank shots
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Guardians are looking to be more aggressive and counte the push coming from Bratok
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Nice swarm... lots of marines go down... very nice
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wow, the miniplateau swarmed, brat_ok loses a tank and quite a few mnm
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Such sick timing by Mondi.
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On February 08 2010 06:10 purpose wrote: Why is everyone telling whats going on. Arent everybody watching? And those who arent cant possibly keep track with this spam. I'm not watching because of my lousy connection, and I can keep track of the LR just fine thanks.
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why did i LB bratok again?
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Canada8029 Posts
On February 08 2010 06:10 purpose wrote: Why is everyone telling whats going on. Arent everybody watching? And those who arent cant possibly keep track with this spam. Not everyone's connection is fantastic. And what's so difficult about reading these posts? I'm not watching the stream, and I'm having no problems keeping up.
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tanks and mnm die to another swarm/lurker push when he was irradiating the defiler
defensive guardians? more swarm - more mnm/tanks killed
if brat_ok doesn't irradiate the defilers quickly, mondragon's excellent swarms are killing him
dropship moving north!
guardinas finally moving out
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mnm dropped and attacking the defiler mount
guardians attacking bratok's nat
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Guardians totally raping this time around... the nat is in shambles
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defiler mound destroyed, but drop cleared out guardians driven off, but there's one that hasn't been irradiated - taking shots at the refinery
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France2061 Posts
On February 08 2010 06:11 Itachii wrote:why did i LB bratok again? 
It's almost like he transformed into a macrobot in between the two TSLs.
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Bratok looking to push again...
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don't tell me brat_ok is going to stop building tanks like last game? now just moving around with vessels and mnm
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Beautiful plague!!! aweeeesome
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dropship scourged...mondragon now on 5 bases - bratok right at 9 super plague on most of the mnm and 2 vessels
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mines being placed - mondragon has taken 7, bratok taking 5
brat_ok slow to take his 3rd in both games
brat_ok loses a lot of rines killing 2 lurkers
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vessels invade mondie's rally point and irradiate a lot of ultras and defilers
irradiated defiler still plagues a but of mnm/1 vessel
bratok has 180 supply to mondie's 132 - but mondie has so much control
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Russian Federation26 Posts
I seem that in this game BratOk doesn't have any chance... Like the first one! It's really pity!
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pure rine attacking 7, it'll probably succeed
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I'm so impressed by Mondragons Defiler play. If one gets Irradiated he still chases down a group of MnM and gets a plague of before it dies. Awesome.
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ultra/ling/hydra with swarm push bratok back close to his nat
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Bratok takes out Mondragons southern expansion with a small mm force.
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a dropship moving out, over mondie's units - kills a few drones at 11 ultras attacking bratok's 5, it lifts
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Mondi's macro is looking a lot better in this game.
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LOOK AT THAT VESSEL COUNT !?
O M G !
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LOL thats a lot of vessels... wtf.
He could win with just his vessels
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lost too much dropship too bad
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United States10774 Posts
goodness mondi is so good
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dropship at 1 scourged
I'm glad brat_ok isn't giving up on dropships as they're necessary wow a lot of lurkerling in the middle of the map - lots getting irradiated mega plague on lots of mnm and vessels
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these games are very good
mondis scourge sniping the ships so goood..
tt
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plague + irradiate is brutal
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France2061 Posts
Marines just aren't cutting it v all these ultras, even irradiated.
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lings attacking bratok's 5 - not lifting yet ultra finds bratok's 2
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Mondi's great plagues are winning him the game.
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seriously i didnt know mondi was this good in ZvT
Im seriously fucking suprised..
+ his plagues and swarms are so top notch..
vessls > 12 T_T
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god damn, mondragon doing good
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oh lol 1 hyd killing 6 vessels :D
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Bratok's macro is sooo good, but he has yet to do anything with it. No successful pressure at all during the first 2 games. I really hope this doesn't become a 3-0.
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mega plague on vessels again, and 3 are lost nice drop on mondie's main, kills a lot of drones and the greater spire but mondragon has such a good economy
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damn take down great spire for what ??
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Awesome delicious plague.. BratOK just getting ripped apart
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mondi just took the whole map.. everythings yellow
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seriously i didnt know mondi was this good in ZvT
Actually i think Brat_OK is playing poorly.
But still, Mondy is really good.
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omfg mondragon so good with his plagues... He just took like 10 vessels with just 1 hydra and plague... lol
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These plagues are just totally crazy.
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Mondragon expanding all over the map... this should be gg
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mondragon doing amazing with plagues and swarms lots of previously plagued vessels dying to hydra
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really surprised at how great Mondragon is playin
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cheese is it mondragon being so good or brat_ok so bad ?
I dont get this.. this is like watching Jd playing a A- iccup player wtf..
sick..
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minidrop on bratok's 2 - lots of scv kills, it has to lift
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gg from Bratok!! Very nicely plagued played by Mondragon
edit: lol subconcious
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Modragon drops Bratok's only mining expo.
Bratok types out. Mondi up 2-0
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wow bratok looking totally outclassed.
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GG, mondi up 2-0. Great games so far. Both players doing well.
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France2061 Posts
Considering how epic these plagues are, I almost wish the commentators would lose it Korean-style whenever they saw one.
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Mondragon = plague master
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I think nobody expect this...
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This is totally the best series yet. I would like to see some of that tank-heavy style coming from Brat_OK
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bratok unable to prevent mondragon's economy from really taking off midgame in both these games
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Sick sick defilers.
Great games this weekend!
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Bratok should be denying the zerg's third base with his first m&m group.
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Why is chill saying that he isnt that good of a commentator? He´s brilliant, maybe partially due to day9 but still!
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I mean I love mondi but after seeing his games vs shaman i wasnt sure at all he would do good vs brat_ok since bratok is just a much cleaner and better gamer imo..
Im just stunned
Maybe its bratoK doing a bit bad and mondi really good..
crazy.
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Shit... Russia goes directly into ass! Mondi doesn't leave any chance! Yeah, he's really too god plr!
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On February 08 2010 06:23 Xeris wrote: really surprised at how great Mondragon is playin
hes not playing THAT great
i always thought bratok had atrocious tvz
On February 08 2010 06:23 SoL[9] wrote: I think nobody expect this...
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On February 08 2010 06:24 QM wrote: SK terran =dead now Wow good point.
Even Flash can't do anything with SK terran these days. Right?
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terran has to be aggresive at the beginning... Great games from Mondragon really...only macro is little bit behind but his control is nice - PLAGUUUUU
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On February 08 2010 06:25 Alethios wrote:Wow good point. Even Flash can't do anything with SK terran these days. Right?
...?
Flash always plays SK terran after his initial pre-hive push
I mean sure he goes mass tank in the late late game, but he still utilizes pure Vessel + m&m extensively as part of his standard play
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I hope to see some better aggression from Bratok in this game please.
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what are you talking about mondie's play not that great- mondie's defilers have been casting amazing swarms and plagues
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On February 08 2010 06:26 Gustav_Wind wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 06:25 Alethios wrote:On February 08 2010 06:24 QM wrote: SK terran =dead now Wow good point. Even Flash can't do anything with SK terran these days. Right? ...? Flash always plays SK terran after his initial pre-hive push I mean sure he goes mass tank in the late late game, but he still utilizes pure Vessel + m&m extensively as part of his standard play Yes. I was joking. Thought that would be fairly clear.
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On February 08 2010 06:26 Gustav_Wind wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 06:25 Alethios wrote:On February 08 2010 06:24 QM wrote: SK terran =dead now Wow good point. Even Flash can't do anything with SK terran these days. Right? ...? Flash always plays SK terran after his initial pre-hive push I mean sure he goes mass tank in the late late game, but he still utilizes pure Vessel + m&m extensively as part of his standard play Are you sure you're not romanian?
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same opening from both players as the last 2 games so far
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Just seems that bratok's build order << mondi's one!
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OMG.. haven't facepalmed this much since I wrote my last physics test. Brat_ok, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?
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On February 08 2010 06:27 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 06:26 Gustav_Wind wrote:On February 08 2010 06:25 Alethios wrote:On February 08 2010 06:24 QM wrote: SK terran =dead now Wow good point. Even Flash can't do anything with SK terran these days. Right? ...? Flash always plays SK terran after his initial pre-hive push I mean sure he goes mass tank in the late late game, but he still utilizes pure Vessel + m&m extensively as part of his standard play Are you sure you're not romanian? 
Lol, beat me to it. :p
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hah, mondie blocking his ramp with a drone to prevent scouting
expo CC building
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2nd rax building for brat_ok, bunker going up at bratok's nat
2 hatch lair
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Looks like 2 hatch muta... nothig lurkerish
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academy going up
mondie denies scv scout again
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France2061 Posts
Come on, go lurkers. I don't think Mondragon's muta control is good enough for 2 hatch.
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Yup, Mond gets the spire down..
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On February 08 2010 06:28 StarWorm wrote: Just seems that bratok's build order << mondi's one!
rofl
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A couple marines pushed out to force a sunken and a couple lings
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spire going up is brat_okay moving out with his rines? once again he doesn't commit, but one sunken built
ebay being built
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mondie taking 6, both mondie's main and 6 have been scanned stim is done, range and +1 inf weapons being researched
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Mondi uses one strategy within all 3 parts... Is this strategy really so good?
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zerg air attack being evolved
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factory being built mondragon's mutas approaching, doesn't kill anything but takes quite a few shots
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On February 08 2010 06:32 StarWorm wrote: Mondi uses one strategy within all 3 parts... Is this strategy really so good?
you got it backwards
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Mondragon upgrading plus 1 air attack. Maybe he is planning ahead and go ultra-guardians.
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queen's nest going up - mondragon not doing enough damage for 2-hatch mutas
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Mondi's mutas are doing nothing
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vessel tech is in progress
hive going up a few rine kills with muta harass
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Mond starting the hive, but it might not be quick enough to stave off all those marines
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stream's buffering to 100% and nothing
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day got this right, this aggressive style is bratoks bread. Hes 100 times better off vs 2 hat
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bratok doing the machineshop/vessel thing again 5 rax now
mnm killing about 3 mutas?
dropship first, neat
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first tank out - dropship flying to the left of the map mondie taking the 7 double gas
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nvm, site stream works, winamp one doesn't
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Guardians again.. and defiler tech up
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Dropship takes out the double gas expo
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2 hacth mutas finally doing some damage by cutting off reinforcements. Bratok drops mondi's double gas expo and kills everything there.
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all rines at bratok's ramp killed, but a lot of mutas lost too
drop on the double gas kill 2 drones and are damaging the hatch - but the mutas are coming back - not in time, hatch killed
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brat pushing out very quickly - mondragon doesn't stall but instead pulls his 5 lurkers all the way back to his nat
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mondie's swarms are so good - they come out quickly and cover a lot of distance
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United States10774 Posts
observer missed it but another dropship to double gas expo gets scouraged
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mondie retaking the 7 double gas
and carnac requests the pause..."gotta restart vent again I think"
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observer missed a drop getting sniped by scourge
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vent ownt
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Russian Federation26 Posts
What's the LOLs with pases???
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dship at bottom left got owned by scourge, damn
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power outage truly bonjwa
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"We ran out of technology" LOL
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Day9 is lacking technology.
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dropship got intercepted at bottom, ob didn't catch it
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You must construct additional technology.
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Hello hello hello to you chill!
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if monragon takes this one it just proves that bratok has no business playing at this stage
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Open mic for chill atm. I don't think he knows that he's live.
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the TSL just doesnt feel right without technological difficulties once and a while
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victory for this game should go to jaedong
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Brat_OK is playing too standard. He has good mechanics but strategically he's not getting things done, like do damage or kill expansions. This series is looking like F91 vs Idra from last year.
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I think Day9's mic just slid out of the socket due to excessive orgasmic thrashing around
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You must construct additional technology
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Its like MSL again...lol Power outrage.
btw Mondragon is amazing... his defiler usage its like watching Savior on his prime T_T
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Will TSL award the win to Jaedong?
Edit: Aw, beaten to it.
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Ah sweet they're back... and all those guardians fall
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On February 08 2010 06:39 MaGic~PhiL wrote: roooooofl
On February 08 2010 06:39 MaGic~PhiL wrote: uuuuh
2 nice 1 word posts in under 1 minute.
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lurkerling swarm pushing them back
both players mining about the same amount of stuff, unlike previous games
1 wraith out and flying about after finishing the guardians?
brat-ok taking 12 min-only
mines are done
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On February 08 2010 06:40 vnlegend wrote: Brat_OK is playing too standard. He has good mechanics but strategically he's not getting things done, like do damage or kill expansions. This series is looking like F91 vs Idra from last year.
it always seemed that he lacked some tvz sense, he never knows how to deal with specific situations. Its like hes seen defilers for the first time in his life
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power outage wins twice in one gmae
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ugh swarm lasts too long. So hard to have a nice push as terran.
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Hahhahahahah wtf was that noise that Day9 just made. Mines make his throat explode apparently.
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Technology at its finest :/ tsl organizers are gonna take heat for this even though they've done such a superb job overall.
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mines killing quite a few units
if brat_ok can irradiate defilers early - I think he can do fine
the wraith scourged
mondie taking the 4 mineral only and the 3 double gas
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gurdrillian burdrillian zerglings
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lol that was some funny shit by Day.
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Such funny cries by commentators! :-D
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bratok walks past some lurkers and loses some mnm in the middle of the map brat_ok once again transitions to a tank-free army, like the past 2 games
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BratOK's supply twice at Mondragons...
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can mondi macro at all lol
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mondie letting a lot of minerals pile up...all his attention going to controlling his defiler?
drop takes out 3 double gas
a drop at bottom left...
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we missed the biggest plague 
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wow, bratok has 3 rines at 3 taking shots at the 4 hatchery, expanding to 10
mega plague on 5 vessel/mnm
bratok attacking mondie's nat with plagued mnm, but a clutch swarm pushes them back about 2/3 previously plagued vessels lost
hatchery at 4 taken out - another hatch being morphed there, 3 dropships fly over to mondie's main
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17 rines 1 medic in the main - mondie going 2 hatch really helped bratok brat-ok attacking the nat as well
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France2061 Posts
So if Mondragon doesn't get 3-4 gas before the Terran pushes out he just can't manage to get any units. 
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couldnt you play like that from the beggining, Brat? hope next one is his
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Not sure why mondi is still in the game. Anyway, great series!
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all drones in mondie's nat killed, 2 lurkers prevent bratok's 10 from mining mnm moving towards mondie's main, swarm above the ramp stops bratok from moving up
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what a change of events now its suddelny brat_ok dominating !
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mondie down to 61 supply, finally under 1k minerals the swarm expires - here comes bratok's forces
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do we need too live report this? i think everyone has the stream working
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On February 08 2010 06:48 sassy wrote: do we need too live report this? i think everyone has the stream working yes we do
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swarms going back down mondi's nat - another plague, pushing bratok's forces back
bratok takes 2, but there's a lurker across the mineral line
4 dropships moving around
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drops at 4 and 8!
12 vessels all bunched up at mondi's ramp, asking to be plagued - and they did hydra killing off all the plagued vessels - 9 of them
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the 10 double gas is killed mondragon gg's!
nice - not 3-0
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United States17042 Posts
great great play by brat_ok
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gg from Mondi. Great performance from Brat_ok
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United States17042 Posts
manstyle drops from brat ok ^^ how they do it in russia
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GG
What an amazing series!
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Great game! Hope Brat_OK comes back and wins the series
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Russian Federation26 Posts
Yeah!!!!! COOL!!!! I'm so happy!!!! Bratok have done it!!! He is my and Russian hero!
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Best series of TSL imo... amazing games by both players.
and I love TvZ!.
Go mondi you can win this.
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Canada5565 Posts
On February 08 2010 06:51 GHOSTCLAW wrote: manstyle drops from brat ok ^^ how they do it in russia
ohhh yeea
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Yes, no 3-0!
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Lol Bratok was practically all in with his lack of expos.
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United States17042 Posts
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I'm rooting for Mondragon, but hopefully Bratok wins on Destination and we'll see game 5.
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Canada8029 Posts
On February 08 2010 06:48 sassy wrote: do we need too live report this? i think everyone has the stream working The stream works for me, but I'm not watching it because it'd be too obvious that I'm slacking off.
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there was at least one poster requesting live reports. plus the purpose of tournament forum threads is for live reporting
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France2061 Posts
Nice dropship play. Mondragon definitely isn't cut out for 2 hatch. He's just too old school for that.
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I lol'd when Day made the comment of Russian men. 23 marines + 1 medic
If Brat_OK had better decision making, he'd've won pretty easily given how much superior his mechanics are.
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bratok opened the same way he did every game, it was mondragons mistake to try 2 hat without having proper mechanics and gamesense for it
he was destroyed from the beginning, his loss was a matter of time
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Mondragon lost, but I have to handed to him. He held out for a really long time under enormous pressure.
This series can still go anywhere.
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Chill has no use for pesky football. Sunday is for Starcraft.
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On February 08 2010 06:52 Cambium wrote: I lol'd when Day made the comment of Russian men. 23 marines + 1 medic
If Brat_OK had better decision making, he'd've won pretty easily given how much superior his mechanics are. That was Chill but yeah, that was hilarious. Bratok did serve in the army ^_^
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On February 08 2010 06:52 Zona wrote: there was at least one poster requesting live reports. plus the purpose of tournament forum threads is for live reporting
i see, thats cool, was just wondering
i think threads like this made not as much for live reporting as for expressing opinions on builds and other happenings
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On February 08 2010 06:52 Zona wrote: there was at least one poster requesting live reports. plus the purpose of tournament forum threads is for live reporting It can sometimes be really nice to look back over epic games via the livereport thread. Like this one.
You can see all the reactions and suchlike. You can remember the excitment you felt at the time.
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Bratok walling in, huge chance of mech play.
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I love the live reports because while I watch the games on the stream, I usually come back to read peoples opinions/emotions on each play by play afterwards and it's kinda nice because it's like taking off a blindfold (i.e. not being biased for the rest of the game) and comparing my overall impression of everything to everyone elses.
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9 dronescout is going to get in before the wall is done now harassing the scv building the rax 12hatch
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mondragon blocking his ramp with a drone, hmm factory already going up mech it is! haha, scv gets through the drone on ramp - but nothing interesting to see, 3rd hatch built in nat 4 lings pop, 1 chase the scv, 3 head out
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where can i see the draw of tsl ? i can't find it. thx
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den being built, 1st vulture out and kills the 3 lings
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2 idle drones in mondie's main for awhile...not so great nice miniwall at mondie's nat with the sunken will put a cap on any vulture raids
bunker at the bridges lair going up, 2nd fact going up
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Actually live reports are awesome since now i needed to take a dump and i turned on tl on my smartphone and can see whats going on hahahaha pretty lame
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a drone at 10 - hidden expo!
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Russian Federation26 Posts
idden surprise for bratok... I bet he won't find it!
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On February 08 2010 06:59 ceaRshaf wrote: Actually live reports are awesome since now i needed to take a dump and i turned on tl on my smartphone and can see whats going on hahahaha pretty lame
Lame? More like AWESOME.
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bratok has a really good chance to take this one, his mech is definitely better than his mnm and the map is ultimate gay to zvt on
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ebay going up, 3rd factory going up, +1 vehicle weapons being researched
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hrm - if lurkers attack bratok's nat from behind, his hidden expo will be easily discovered
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interesting build from mondragon
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Russian Federation26 Posts
The commentator is right... What is the Hell going on?!
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That is so true; Lurkers are so bad that I generally don't prepare at all for them when I mech.
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i LOVE ( !! !! ) mondis answer to mech
interesting !!
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Quick lurkers from a proxy hatch cancel mining at bratoks expo for about 2 minutes.
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im not sure how mondragon is going to benefit from this trick
On February 08 2010 07:03 MaGic~PhiL wrote: i LOVE ( !! !! ) mondis answer to mech
interesting !!
i find it horrible
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sieged tanks clear out the lurkers finally, vehicle plating being researched
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What the fuck is mondragon doing . . .
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bratok can't even consider the possibility of the hidden expo? damn
4th factory being placed
mondragon has taken 10 as well
once again mondie's going to be so much richer than bratok
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about a dozen vultures moving out - mondie sets up lurker block, but mines kill it mutalisks are there
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On February 08 2010 07:04 Zona wrote: once again mondie's going to be so much richer than bratok
O,O
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mondis macro is very good this game !!
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lurkers harrassing bratok's nat from behind again, but they run quickly first vessel being made, +2 vehicle weaopns in progress
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move the damned barracks to the lefttttttt
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instead of building lurkers he should have expanded another 2x :/
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hive being built, +1 zerg ranged attack is already done
the lurkers from behind are trying to harass again, one tank left behind takes a few shots - but the turret is killed
a group of mutalisks run in but are devastated by irradiate/goliaths
mini vulture harass at 10, but doesn't do too much damage
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if he tries something "interesting" one more time bratok is going to roll him next game
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man i like mondis play so much vs mech
seriously T_T
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i really Mondragon to win this ...
cmon Mondi , 4pool in last game !!!!
(that would have been baller)
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ugh, stream cut off - anyways, bratok has 4 up and running
greater spire, defiler mound...hmm
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On February 08 2010 07:08 Sinedd wrote:i really Mondragon to win this ... cmon Mondi , 4pool in last game !!!! (that would have been baller) would be* stupid.
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finally bratok deals with the 7 expo by raiding it with vultures - a lot of drones killed
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Mondi macro > Brat_OK macro
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mondie taking 9? not sure
when bratok takes 7 for himself, half the minerals will already be gone, hah
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wow, nice hydra/swarm/lurker push - kilsl a bunch of units, and bratok is going to lose 5
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damn 3rd basically gave up for free
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WHAT THE FUCK bratok is doing
he gave up his position in the middle holy shit
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mondi will win this game..
hes playing so wisely..
really
!!
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Such bad positioning by Bratok.
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mondie's macro a lot better this game
bratok mining up bottom middle and taking some territory a few vultures moving out are killed by hydraling vultures raid 9, but are killed by hydraling again
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1-2 hydra ups, 2-3 tank ups, 1-1 ling ups bratok re-taking 4
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man hes 2-3 with control grp of tanks i want some action
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Brat_OK needs a lot more shit for mech.
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bratok not even expoing enough
i dont understand what the hell is he doing
how simple is it to take your half of the map and turtle, not like YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE BRATOK
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hydra attacking a little below middle - but a LOT have been killed by mine/tanks
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drop coming in - drops a bit at 4, more drop in main
bratok's going to lose a lot of depots
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10 depots killed - the CC from 4 in the red, floating
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I dont see Brat wining this  No 5 set seens so
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France2061 Posts
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hydra ultra attacking bratok's left forces, since bratok's forces are split up - they're killed but mondragon loses a bunch of stuff too
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If you ever see Flash play on desti, he will have like 200 turrets up across his half of the map, essentially stopping any drops.
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Mondi was playing that BEAUTYFUL
SERIOUSLY ! =)
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irradiated ultra killing scv's - haha bratok's 8 attacked, mining stops
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its like bratok fails to grasp basic ideas of gameplay
this map is so specific, how do you not know your weak spots
its been done 1000 times before
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Mondragon solving Brat_ok's supply problem
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another small drop in bratok's main - all lings - they aren't moving yet
lurkerling attacking towards 9 - 2 sarms down there aren't enough tanks to deal with allthe ultras
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Im so impressed with mondis ZvT .. especially this game vs mech
Just AMAZING
...
GG !!
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like i said bratok had no business playing at this stage
ggs
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bratok down to 61 supply, mining almost nothing game is almost over
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oh? gg already? is my strema that behind?
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On February 08 2010 07:16 sassy wrote: its like bratok fails to grasp basic ideas of gameplay
this map is so specific, how do you not know your weak spots
its been done 1000 times before qft, i am so disappointed, and so is my LB
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Bratok is toast.
Sweet game though. Mondi doing everything you aren't supposed to do vs mech and kicking ass with it.
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Bratok has nothing but tanks. Mini drops are Super-effective!
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crazy series.. the first one that really showed what I expected from it..
amazing stuff
GG
Mondi 3-1 vs brak_oK advances to face Fenix
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ultraling in bratok's main - factories lift it's over
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Mondi's ZvMech is beautiful. o.O
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Beautiful play by Mondragon.
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gg - mondie dominated that game
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GG. One of the best series i've seen in a long time.
Amazing!
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sick series from these two.
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wow mondragon is such a smart player
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Amazing play by Mondragon... he is just the best Zerg ever (not korean..lol).
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United States10774 Posts
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so thaaaaats how you beat mech on desti
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yessss :D gj Mondragon , but i really have the feeling that BRAT_OK didnt play his best
really gg's
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Canada780 Posts
Such good games from Mondragon and Brat_OK. The series was actually better and closer than the score shows and I am really happy how they turned out. GG to Mondragon and Brat_OK.
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That was one of the best series yet. Thanks TL!
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Alright mondi is looking extremely strong If he could just get a better grip on his macro...
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great series tonight, props to Mondi he played really well against Bratok. GGs and thanks Chill + Day9 combo entertainment
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Mondragon wins, screws up my Liquidbet points.
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nice play by bouth players gg
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Mondragon played some impressive ZvT today. He would still get stomped by Idra though.
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Insanely epic games today!
ZERG MADNESS!
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mondragon did play well against mech on that map, but also bratok didn't play to the advantages of mech either, which made mondragon's job easier
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Too much hype for Nony vs Idra, i feel a power outage coming!!!
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Great games and I really liked the commentary too. Such good chemistry between Day[9] and Chill
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nice games today. Best TSL Day so far.
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Canada5565 Posts
Looking at the brackets again, I can easily see Sen getting to finals and very possibly winning the TSL
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On February 08 2010 07:22 MagisterMan wrote:Great games and I really liked the commentary too. Such good chemistry between Day[9] and Chill 
True
Jokes of Chill + Knowledge of Day = FUCKING GOOD!
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On February 08 2010 07:22 cHicKeLoR wrote: nice games today. Best TSL Day so far.
By far. Great commentary, great games.
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Zerg have become really good at dealing with Mech and this game preety much higlighted this.
Another victory for the Blitzkrieg Zerg. Good job, Mondragon!
+ Show Spoiler +
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Thanks tons for the games, the commentary and the starleague itself. This is shaping up to be truly epic.
See you again next week
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Really entertaining series and strong looking winners (100% liquidbet -_-). Thanks TL.net!
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Too bad bratok was eliminated this early, but he played good games! Congrats Mondragon! GGs
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Good games. Is it just me that in games 1-3 Brat didnt have enough tanks? One swarm always stopped his attack and every game it was 2-3 bases vs 5-6. Game 3 he won because there were no swarms. His response to defilers is D level, I just dont know how he managed to hang on for so long.
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On February 08 2010 07:22 MagisterMan wrote:Great games and I really liked the commentary too. Such good chemistry between Day[9] and Chill 
I think it has to do with Day[9]`s flexibility as a caster. Out of all the commentators in the foreign community, he is the only one who can completely comfortably switch between "colourful" and "technical" commentating. So regardless of who he works with, he can easily adapt and make sure the cast is excellent.
Two excellent serieses. Zerg dominate this day.
EDIT: Also, has anyone noticed how each race seemed to have a day of domination? First it was IdrA and Fenix winning, then it was Nony and JF and now Ret and Mondragon. It`s really funny. XD
EDIT 2: Woops, I forgot IdrA and Fenix did not play on the same day. o.O Oh, well...
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very good games, very entertain.
that's for the show teamliquid.
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awesome tsl not gonna lie
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On February 08 2010 07:29 Tom Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2010 07:22 MagisterMan wrote:Great games and I really liked the commentary too. Such good chemistry between Day[9] and Chill  I think it has to do with Day[9]`s flexibility as a caster. Out of all the commentators in the foreign community, he is the only one who can completely comfortably switch between "colourful" and "technical" commentating. So regardless of who he works with, he can easily adapt and make sure the cast is excellent. Two excellent serieses. Zerg dominate this day. EDIT: Also, has anyone noticed how each race seemed to have a day of domination? First it was IdrA and Fenix winning, then it was Nony and JF and now Ret and Mondragon. It`s really funny. XD EDIT 2: Woops, I forgot IdrA and Fenix did not play on the same day. o.O Oh, well...
And Nony beat Tarson while Draco got smashed by SEn.
EDIT: Er. Whoops. You led me astray!
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Nice games from all players, espeically the first zvz
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Woah, Mondragons defiler control was just insane.
And that first game of ret vs castro, best. ZvZ. Ever. Can't wait for next weeks games!
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sucks for castro and bratok, the 2 players I wanted
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Awesome awesome games, commentating and obsing today! Congrats to the winners.
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Ya, Day9 and Chill are great together.
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Ret won! Yay! Mondragon too! Yay!
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yeah, i must say that day9 & chill > artless , maybe that's got to do with them commentating at 4 am, but still .. :-) and awesome games today, cant wait for the next series! gg! <3 TL.NET
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If fenix doesnt stop mondi in the early game or make some serious damage he is gonna be dead. Mondi late game was awsome. Ret vs sen would be an awesome zvz I think ret should take it
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sen will crush ret and mondi....AWESOME <3
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Mondragon have incredible lategame micro with defilers. If he can improve his macro, he will be the best.
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to me it seems mondragon willingly sacrifices perfect macro for being able to be focused on key points and battles in a match, so this " If he can improve his macro, he will be the best." is not possible i think, its a trade-off in his case imo
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Great series between Mondi and Brat. Good stuff with the commentary too guys.
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On February 08 2010 20:24 Myrkul wrote: to me it seems mondragon willingly sacrifices perfect macro for being able to be focused on key points and battles in a match, so this " If he can improve his macro, he will be the best." is not possible i think, its a trade-off in his case imo Well it's a fact that his mechanics aren't too good(low apm), so if he got his apm up to like ~350, he would be able to focus on the micro while macroing like he should, so I don't think that's an intelligent thing to say. Someone like JD can macro really well while having even better defilers.
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Ah Mondi made such awesome comebacks with defilers! He shouldn't have two-hatched in 3rd game, he always says he cant do damage with mutas himself :D :D :D
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On February 08 2010 05:50 Insane wrote:Artosis isn't commentating lol, it's Chill and Day. Yeah dunno why I wrote Artosis, the voices are pretty different
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