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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 213

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snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
January 23 2010 16:33 GMT
#4241
On January 24 2010 01:31 iamho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 01:20 Jaeden wrote:
On January 24 2010 01:19 iamho wrote:
why no recommended games? was this series just really bad or is op just pissed at results?

both


so none of the games are any good? thats too bad

actually set 2 was good. Set 3 was about to become the best set they've played in a while... but was cut short
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
January 23 2010 16:40 GMT
#4242
On January 24 2010 01:20 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 01:19 iamho wrote:
why no recommended games? was this series just really bad or is op just pissed at results?

both


If you really want some unbiased recommended games, here you go:

Game 1: One sided rape, not really worth watching.

Game 2: Decent game, and it wasn't really clear who was winning until + Show Spoiler +
Flash got Dropships and basically ferried units into Jaedong's undefended main. Smart move by him, though I was surprised Jaedong didn't throw up a spore to go along with the few scourge he had. Not that it necessarily would have helped, but it just seemed that he left it way too undefended, when he had about 10 sunkens at his natural.
I think it's worth a watch, but it wasn't anything too special.

Game 3: Was an absolutely amazing game, with some intense back and forth fights, that were do or die. Unfortunately, there was no acceptable conclusion to it, and never will be. Watch this one at your own risk, especially if you're a Flash fan.

Game 4: One sided rape, not really worth watching.

Yeah, the results were pretty rage inducing, but I think it was pretty lame to edit out the OP. Game 2 was pretty decent, and Game 3 was amazing up until the power outage. :/
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 16:42:11
January 23 2010 16:41 GMT
#4243
well, in the first set JD won with 2 hatch mutas, coz flash didn`t properly defend his main with turrets
2nd set was somewhat interesting...but nothing spectacular imo. JD went for 3 hatch (before pool) mutas into guards, with ultras on the way. Flash tried a sunken bust, JD freaked out and sunken'd really hard, but flash just used 2 dropships with dmatrix to drop in main.
and game 3...well mb that's the best game, and it almost ended imo before the big bang

edit: lol, forgot about game 4, but yeah...check the post above
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 16:46:50
January 23 2010 16:42 GMT
#4244
Op Photobucket fail.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 23 2010 16:48 GMT
#4245
On January 24 2010 01:42 Sadistx wrote:
Op Photobucket fail.

Can people stop using the word "fail"?

Makes me want to punch the person who says it.

Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
January 23 2010 16:48 GMT
#4246
YES JAEODNG (just got up this morning to see the results)
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
January 23 2010 16:50 GMT
#4247
That was the biggest disappointment I have ever seen in professional SC and I am a JG fan. People will say he didnt fairly win the match and thats not true. He was the better player but just got robbed from finishing off Flash in G3.

Also, The players computers and the Ref+obs+Hub should be all connected to a backup power supply. Seriously, this isn't hard to do.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
January 23 2010 16:52 GMT
#4248
Wow MSL, good luck finding a sponsor next season.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 23 2010 16:52 GMT
#4249
On January 24 2010 01:50 Sanguinarius wrote:
That was the biggest disappointment I have ever seen in professional SC and I am a JG fan. People will say he didnt fairly win the match and thats not true. He was the better player but just got robbed from finishing off Flash in G3.

Also, The players computers and the Ref+obs+Hub should be all connected to a backup power supply. Seriously, this isn't hard to do.

Word.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
January 23 2010 16:54 GMT
#4250
fucking pathetic from MBC/Kespa
Entusman #12
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 23 2010 16:55 GMT
#4251
I imagine people that didn't see the games yet seing the MSL-Finals thread having 213 sites and thinking "OMFG EPIC FINAL GAMES" and then they discover this..
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 23 2010 16:56 GMT
#4252
On January 24 2010 01:50 Sanguinarius wrote:
That was the biggest disappointment I have ever seen in professional SC and I am a JG fan. People will say he didnt fairly win the match and thats not true. He was the better player but just got robbed from finishing off Flash in G3.

Also, The players computers and the Ref+obs+Hub should be all connected to a backup power supply. Seriously, this isn't hard to do.


The problem is that you can't say Jaedong was the better player this finals and thus won cleanly and fairly. Jaedong was overall better over the course of the first 3 games, but finals are played as a best of 5, and under normal circumstances Flash could well have stepped it up and risen above JD for the last two games.

Of course there was anything but normal circumstances in the end, which is why the championship was tainted for JD. Sucks but it's true.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 23 2010 16:56 GMT
#4253
On January 24 2010 01:48 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 01:42 Sadistx wrote:
Op Photobucket fail.

Can people stop using the word "fail"?

Makes me want to punch the person who says it.



Feel free to punch me at the next DC LAN, but it's the effect, not the cause. The cause of people using the word "fail" is other people failing
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
January 23 2010 16:57 GMT
#4254


When I was watching the stream, they showed a playback, where Flash's CC reached the 2nd exp, and the SCVs also started gathering mineral. I addition Flash reached JD's left bottom expansion once again, where 2 sunkens were spawning...
These cannot be seen on the VOD, because they happened after this VOD ends...


Am I the only one, who have seen these? In that case, I will go to a doctor ))))
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
January 23 2010 16:57 GMT
#4255
On January 23 2010 20:31 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Worst finals ever, wow.

That even feel like a finals, everyone just leaves pissed off. What the fuck.


Thanks Tele. 100% agree. Also, can we have some reaction threads made? Some official way to vent and pour out some thoughts on what happened and what's being done about it? KT house reaction? Coach, Flash's Dad, KeSPA? I can just see an army of Korean SC fans marching on KeSPA offices...
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
January 23 2010 16:59 GMT
#4256
On January 24 2010 01:57 din wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc

When I was watching the stream, they showed a playback, where Flash's CC reached the 2nd exp, and the SCVs also started gathering mineral. I addition Flash reached JD's left bottom expansion once again, where 2 sunkens were spawning...
These cannot be seen on the VOD, because they happened after this VOD ends...


Am I the only one, who have seen these? In that case, I will go to a doctor ))))


Which stream were you watching?
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
January 23 2010 16:59 GMT
#4257
Jaedong will never be my champion of NATE MSL. Flash did not deserve this shit. We all know that a game is then over when one player GGs. Flash did not do that, so it is not over.

The shit following afterwards was a big burden for Flash and he was not able to play his A-game in set 4, so giving Jaedong the trophy is a joke.
din
Profile Joined October 2009
Hungary27 Posts
January 23 2010 17:01 GMT
#4258
On January 24 2010 01:59 machinus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 01:57 din wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AdKktRlSc

When I was watching the stream, they showed a playback, where Flash's CC reached the 2nd exp, and the SCVs also started gathering mineral. I addition Flash reached JD's left bottom expansion once again, where 2 sunkens were spawning...
These cannot be seen on the VOD, because they happened after this VOD ends...


Am I the only one, who have seen these? In that case, I will go to a doctor ))))


Which stream were you watching?


orange_tv
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 23 2010 17:03 GMT
#4259
One question, when Flash decided to attack the top right when ultras were still only 2-1 (I believe), shouldn't he have pushed to kill the main?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 23 2010 17:06 GMT
#4260
On January 24 2010 01:59 polarwolf wrote:
Jaedong will never be my champion of NATE MSL. Flash did not deserve this shit. We all know that a game is then over when one player GGs. Flash did not do that, so it is not over.

The shit following afterwards was a big burden for Flash and he was not able to play his A-game in set 4, so giving Jaedong the trophy is a joke.

??? what could JD do?! jeez you`re acting like its his fault...
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
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